DDV back to Milwaukee?

slos · Post #1 » by **slos** » Sun Nov 17, 2024 11:31 am

Looking at that rough DDV start in Minnesota makes me think if something like this has legs. (It works at the trade machine)

Milwaukee in DiVincezo
Milwaukee out Connaughton, Johnson, Beauchamp, Livingston

Minnesota in Connaughton, Johnson (TPE)
Minnesota out DiVincezo

3rd team(s) in Beauchamp, Livingston
3rd team(s) out nada

Why Bucks? They finally fill their starting SG spot with a familiar face and proven 3 and D player locked in a 10ish contract. Milwaukee sacrifises here their recently signed FRP (Johsnon) to upgrade from Pat to Donte. Beauchamp and Livingston are also included here for Milwaukee to duck the 2nd apron for a moment and make this trade legal.

Dame/Wright/Rollins
DDV/Trent/Green
Midds/Jackson
Giannis/Prince/Smith
Lopez/Bobby

Why Minny? Donte looks stuck behind Ant, so they decide to cash in with a look into another promising PG. They will have to waive Dozier and now they will have Rob and AJJ to develop in the next couple of seasons until Conley finishes his contract. I guess this fixes some of their bench issues since a NAW/Pat combo makes more sense in terms of chemistry.

Conley/Dillingham/Johnson
Edwards/NAW/Shannon
McDaniels/Connaughton/Ingles
Randle/Minott/Miller
Gobert/Reid/Garza

Why 3rd team(s)? I can see multiple teams like Washington, Brooklyn, Toronto, Utah etc willing to take a free look into Beauchamp and Livingston who are stuck in Milwaukee's rotation.

giberish · Post #2 » by **giberish** » Sun Nov 17, 2024 11:38 am

2nd apron issues kill this deal for the Bucks.

Doubt Minny has any interest either.

Post #3 » by **Mavrelous** » Sun Nov 17, 2024 11:40 am

PatC is a negative value player, and I don't think there is hope he ever becomes positive, he's almost 32, DDV is simply in a shooting slump, amny would give assets for him even during this slump, this isn't close at all IMO.

Post #4 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Sun Nov 17, 2024 4:41 pm

Milwaukee in DiVincezo
Milwaukee out Connaughton, Johnson, Beauchamp, Livingston

Milwaukee would incur a hard cap at the second apron by aggregating salary like this, and I think they’d end his deal over the second apron, before accounting for needing to sign 2 more players to meet minimum roster requirements

Minnesota in Connaughton, Johnson (TPE)
Minnesota out DiVincezo

Minnesota can’t use TPE’s as a second apron team. Plus, in receiving more salary than they send out, they would incur a hard cap at the 1st apron, and Minnesota is already $28m over that line, so they’d have to clear another nearly $30m off the books in this trade.

Post #5 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Nov 17, 2024 4:45 pm

DDV had the third most made 3s in the entire NBA last season. I don't see the Wolves gifting him away like this less than 20 games into the season.

QMemphis · Post #6 » by **QMemphis** » Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:57 am

Aside from the trade being illegal the value is tremendously off

shrink · Post #7 » by **shrink** » Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:00 am

I think getting three years of DiVincenzo cheap was the main piece for MIN in the Towns deal, but with Ant and NAW SG’s as well, I’d be interested in hearing other deals that brought back a comparably valued player at center or maybe PG.

Post #8 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Nov 18, 2024 4:03 am

shrink wrote:I think getting three years of DiVincenzo cheap was the main piece for MIN in the Towns deal, but with Ant and NAW SG’s as well, I’d be interested in hearing other deals that brought back a comparably valued player at center or maybe PG.

I think the Wolves would regret trading him, but Orlando seems like your best bet here if a center is the goal.

German Athens · Post #9 » by **German Athens** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:44 pm

Mke out: Portis, ‘31 1st
Mke in: Donte, 2nd

Atl out: Nance, 2nd
Atl in: Portis

Min out: Donte
Min in: Nance, ‘31 1st

Post #10 » by **Klomp** » Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:03 am

German Athens wrote:Mke out: Portis, ‘31 1st
Mke in: Donte, 2nd

Atl out: Nance, 2nd
Atl in: Portis

Min out: Donte
Min in: Nance, ‘31 1st

That's hideous for Minnesota

Post #11 » by **gswhoops** » Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:50 pm

QMemphis wrote:Aside from the trade being illegal the value is tremendously off

"But other than that, Ms. Lincoln, how was the play?"

QMemphis · Post #12 » by **QMemphis** » Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:15 pm

gswhoops wrote:
QMemphis wrote:Aside from the trade being illegal the value is tremendously off

"But other than that, Ms. Lincoln, how was the play?"

Not sure what you mean care to explain

Post #13 » by **gswhoops** » Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:28 pm

QMemphis wrote:
gswhoops wrote:
QMemphis wrote:Aside from the trade being illegal the value is tremendously off

"But other than that, Ms. Lincoln, how was the play?"

Not sure what you mean care to explain

Oh, it's just an idiom that references the Lincoln assassination. It's a tongue-in-cheek way of basically saying, if you ignore the obvious flaws, what do you think of something

I'm agreeing with your point

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #14 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:10 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
shrink wrote:I think getting three years of DiVincenzo cheap was the main piece for MIN in the Towns deal, but with Ant and NAW SG’s as well, I’d be interested in hearing other deals that brought back a comparably valued player at center or maybe PG.

I think the Wolves would regret trading him, but Orlando seems like your best bet here if a center is the goal.

Unfortunately, there’s no centers that are available THIS season for Orlando.

Carter can not be traded and Goga is a vital component to their success when Carter is injured (which he will be 1/3 of the season).

I would love to try to make something work around Cole Anthony + pick incentives. Not apples to apples players but both in a slump, both have a manageable salary (Minny shaves a yr. off). Cole can play PG and Minny can recoup some picks for future dealings.

Cole Anthony
‘25 FRP (via Denver) - projected to be 20-25 in a deep draft.
‘26 SRP (via Orlando)

For DDV