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The thread about available defenders prompted this idea.

Blazers
Thybulle
for
Tucker + '25 Second (Den/Phi) + '31 Second (LAC)

Thybulle gets to play for the team he signed with as a RFA. Portland gets a couple minor assets for a great defender. They also get someone to be an 'end of the bench' mentor with all the youth on the team.

Clippers
Tucker + '31 Second (LAC)
for
Maxi

Clippers get a shooter who can play PF at give them a little more size. This also gives them a playable role player for someone currently sitting at home.

Mavs
Maxi + '25 Second (Den/Phi)
for
Thybulle

Mavs upgrade their defense.

I don't think the Clippers give a second to turn Tucker into Maxi. Maxi is owed 11M beyond this year and is not exactly a super useful player.

Is Tucker expiring?

Malapropism wrote:I don't think the Clippers give a second to turn Tucker into Maxi. Maxi is owed 11M beyond this year and is not exactly a super useful player.

I agree. I mean I think Maxi is somewhat useful(but not super ), but he's just not healthy enough and while his defensive versatility is nice, his lack of belief in his shot, makes him a real dead spot on offense.

I would have Maxi as worth less than Tucker even with Tucker being utter dead weight because of that 2nd year. So I would have Dallas needing to provide their own 2nds to Portland and probably even one to the Clippers, though there is maybe a small chance the added utility of Kleber is enough.

My question for the little Mavs is how much would Thybulle play over Marshall/Grimes. He's a better off ball defender than both, probably about equal on Ball and less useful on offense than either. Is it worth dumping all your 2nds to exchange your backup PF and only spacing 5 option for a guy there isn't a certain role for?

I kinda lean no for Dallas. Value seems fine(with the idea that Dallas has to add 1 or 2 2nds to the OP), but not sure they gain enough on court and I don't know that clearing Maxi's 2nd year is a priority ATM.

But overall a pretty interesting idea. I certainly see the logic for everyone.

If you could guarantee Maxi plays 70 games plus the playoffs without a drop in production, Frank and Co would be willing to take on that second year.

But since that, obviously, isn't plausible and Dallas would probably keep him if it was, Clippers aren't going to fully empty their cupboard to have dead weight next year. Would be better off playing Kobe.

PJ is probably just gonna get bought out as Clips really don't have assets to add to him, and doubt any team wants him to where they will actually trade for him

I do it for Portland.

JRoy wrote:Is Tucker expiring?

Yes, Tucker is expiring. I'd do it for the Blazers for a single 2nd rounder.

Mavs need a PF, not another wing.

I would do it for the clips if they were getting a couple of 2nds back

Diminishing returns on Thybulle with Grimes, Klay, Marshall, and Washington all most likely being ahead of him. And Kleber is really only good for 15 minutes, but his defensive versatility, stretch 5 minutes, and foul trouble insurance for Lively and Gafford is likely useful enough that the upgrade from Kleber to Thybulle is not worth 3 2nds. But I could be wrong and wouldnt necessarily be mad if it happened.

I realize this will be boring, but I’m kind of surprised that the Clippers haven’t sent Tucker/some small asset or a player like Bones Hyland to the Wizards for Marvin Bagley.

Why for the Clippers- save some money and get a player who may actually play.

Why for the Wizards- get some small asset to trade an expiring contract you don’t need, that you already got some small assets for, in exchange for a player you will most definitely waive.

chrbal wrote:I realize this will be boring, but I’m kind of surprised that the Clippers haven’t sent Tucker/some small asset or a player like Bones Hyland to the Wizards for Marvin Bagley.

Why for the Clippers- save some money and get a player who may actually play.

Why for the Wizards- get some small asset to trade an expiring contract you don’t need, that you already got some small assets for, in exchange for a player you will most definitely waive.

Clippers don't even have small assets, 31 SRP is the only tradeable pick left that isn't subject to a swap.

And if Washington is expected to waive Bagley, might as well wait that out while cutting Tucker.

I'd have no argument if it was Bones+PJ though, since Bones does need an opportunity to play and it'll open up a roster spot for, hopefully, Jordan Miller

I don't think Clippers owe a second rd pick in Maxi/PJT exchange, but Clippers should absolutely do PJT/Maxi exchange, Maxi at 15MPG for 40 games in RS and in the PO is a very good tool for Lue to have.
Maxi is Mavs only real matching salary, I'd keep it for bigger fish than Thybulle.

(2) 2nd’s for Thybulle sounds in the range of his worth