Paul George to Charlotte

JustBuzzin · Post #1 » by **JustBuzzin** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:32 am

This happens in January after Philly realize they are not competing for anything this season.

Philly trades: PG
Charlotte trades: Bridges/Green

Philly gets a younger player who can replace PG as the 3rd option. Green gives them depth at SG. They also get off the PG contract.

Charlotte gets a vet who can help mentor Miller. Charlotte already have their young cornerstones in Melo/Miller. PG can go to Charlotte with less expectations.

HornetJail · Post #2 » by **HornetJail** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 2:11 am

having Paul George from age 34-37 on a max contract is not my favorite idea in the world. the downside is like Hayward on steroids.

It sucks because I would absolutely love a player with his skillset on this team and especially for Brandon Miller to learn everything possible from "his GOAT", but like it's way too much risk

Post #3 » by **Mavrelous** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:05 am

If CHA is gambling on a star with questionable health, they should hold on for another on the same team...

brackdan70 · Post #4 » by **brackdan70** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 2:29 pm

This is something I would never think of for Charlotte, but I don’t hate it.
It ties up a whole lot of Salary though.

JustBuzzin · Post #5 » by **JustBuzzin** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:32 pm

brackdan70 wrote:This is something I would never think of for Charlotte, but I don’t hate it.
It ties up a whole lot of Salary though.

PG makes us a playoff team the next few years. It would be worth it he can help mentor Miller and be a vet presence in the locker room. He wouldn't have much expectations playing here.

the_process · Post #6 » by **the_process** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:21 pm

Does Charlotte have any other way to match salary besides Miles?

the_process · Post #7 » by **the_process** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:44 pm

Mavrelous wrote:If CHA is gambling on a star with questionable health, they should hold on for another on the same team...

Don't think CHA has the assets for that.

HornetJail · Post #8 » by **HornetJail** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:48 pm

the_process wrote:Does Charlotte have any other way to match salary besides Miles?

We have about $50M worth of tradable salaries we shouldn't hesitate to throw around in basically any deal. Richards, Micic, Martin, Grant Williams, Josh Green, Jeffries, Taj, Seth Curry totals about $50-55M and only Grant and Green are guaranteed money after this season. Salary matching isn't going to be a problem for us in any situation, the other team might have to cut some players though.

the_process · Post #9 » by **the_process** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:37 pm

BKN gets G. Williams, Council, and 26 OKC 1st
CHA gets George and Gordon
PHI gets C.Johnson, C.Martin, J. Green, and Micic

HornetJail · Post #10 » by **HornetJail** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:50 pm

the_process wrote:BKN gets G. Williams, Council, and 26 OKC 1st
CHA gets George and Gordon
PHI gets C.Johnson, C.Martin, J. Green, and Micic

this price (nothing) is something I can get behind if we're willing to gamble on him for the short term, but we'd have to have a follow-up move for a replacement center for any kind of move towards being competitive.

I can't shake the feeling we'd just be extending the Batum/Hayward pipeline of "very good veteran on massive contracts but they're aging and breaking down physically" wings. PG will be better than either one up front, but those last two years could be extremely ugly and that's the time frame where the team should actually be competitive.

If we're going after a talented star with injury concerns and a huge contract, I'd rather contact New Orleans and see if they're ready to pull the plug on Zion. there's at least upside there beyond 2026.

JustBuzzin · Post #11 » by **JustBuzzin** » Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:30 am

HornetJail wrote:
the_process wrote:BKN gets G. Williams, Council, and 26 OKC 1st
CHA gets George and Gordon
PHI gets C.Johnson, C.Martin, J. Green, and Micic

this price (nothing) is something I can get behind if we're willing to gamble on him for the short term, but we'd have to have a follow-up move for a replacement center for any kind of move towards being competitive.

I can't shake the feeling we'd just be extending the Batum/Hayward pipeline of "very good veteran on massive contracts but they're aging and breaking down physically" wings. PG will be better than either one up front, but those last two years could be extremely ugly and that's the time frame where the team should actually be competitive.

If we're going after a talented star with injury concerns and a huge contract, I'd rather contact New Orleans and see if they're ready to pull the plug on Zion. there's at least upside there beyond 2026.

Comparing PG to Hayward is just wrong though. PG is clearly more talented and when he's healthy he's still a allstar caliber player. As a 3rd option even at his age would be worth it. We aren't asking him to come in and be the guy. He's a vet who knows how to play. Having Melo/Miller makes me comfortable doing this deal. At worst we get a few playoff runs with this core. By the time PG contract expires we are in the Prime years of Melo/Miller with money to go hunting with PG off the books.

Laimbeer · Post #12 » by **Laimbeer** » Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:40 pm

George demands a trade on the plane ride to Charlotte.

babyjax13 · Post #13 » by **babyjax13** » Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:48 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
HornetJail wrote:
the_process wrote:BKN gets G. Williams, Council, and 26 OKC 1st
CHA gets George and Gordon
PHI gets C.Johnson, C.Martin, J. Green, and Micic

this price (nothing) is something I can get behind if we're willing to gamble on him for the short term, but we'd have to have a follow-up move for a replacement center for any kind of move towards being competitive.

I can't shake the feeling we'd just be extending the Batum/Hayward pipeline of "very good veteran on massive contracts but they're aging and breaking down physically" wings. PG will be better than either one up front, but those last two years could be extremely ugly and that's the time frame where the team should actually be competitive.

If we're going after a talented star with injury concerns and a huge contract, I'd rather contact New Orleans and see if they're ready to pull the plug on Zion. there's at least upside there beyond 2026.

Comparing PG to Hayward is just wrong though. PG is clearly more talented and when he's healthy he's still a allstar caliber player. As a 3rd option even at his age would be worth it. We aren't asking him to come in and be the guy. He's a vet who knows how to play. Having Melo/Miller makes me comfortable doing this deal. At worst we get a few playoff runs with this core. By the time PG contract expires we are in the Prime years of Melo/Miller with money to go hunting with PG off the books.

Is it? Until Hayward's Boston injury they weren't that far off as players. Hayward had just averaged 22/5/4 on 47/40/84 shooting with a BPM of 5 and VORP of 4.5 (16-17). George's best year to that point was 24/7/3 on 48/39/90 shooting with a BPM of 3.4 (4.9 the prior year, but worse counting stats). I think George was better at the time, but the margin wasn't huge. Now, at the time Charlotte got Hayward (and this is probably what you are referring to, rather than their respective early primes) yah, Hayward was so injured he was washed ... PG has had some gruesome injuries, too, but nothing as career-altering as Gordon's.

KembaWalker · Post #14 » by **KembaWalker** » Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:51 pm

Charlotte would require draft compensation to take on Paul Georges contract, if thats on the table then bring him on. his own podcast would give us more insight into whats going on with the team than our local media so thats a bonus

Post #15 » by **Texas Chuck** » Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:58 pm

Laimbeer wrote:George demands a trade on the plane ride to Charlotte.

I mean he could. And the Hornets and Sixers would certainly be burning bridges with his agent. But he got his money. And he got to pick his team. Playing like this, he's not going to get to pick his team again.

He would just quiet quit if he hated being there.

JustBuzzin · Post #16 » by **JustBuzzin** » Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:20 pm

Laimbeer wrote:George demands a trade on the plane ride to Charlotte.

PG played in OKC and would have stayed had they not decided to blow it up.

That guy is about his money. Doesn't seem like a guy who cares about the market he plays in. I mean he left LA for Philly.

HornetJail · Post #17 » by **HornetJail** » Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:24 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:George demands a trade on the plane ride to Charlotte.

I mean he could. And the Hornets and Sixers would certainly be burning bridges with his agent. But he got his money. And he got to pick his team. Playing like this, he's not going to get to pick his team again.

He would just quiet quit if he hated being there.

yeah i just brought up the Batum/Hayward downside. (Batum would be noisy quitting tbh)

I think we already need to become a good team before bringing in a vet that is almost assuredly on his last big contract. Bringing in these guys when you're at best a play-in caliber team, isn't the answer.

the_process · Post #18 » by **the_process** » Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:07 pm

KembaWalker wrote:Charlotte would require draft compensation to take on Paul Georges contract, if thats on the table then bring him on. his own podcast would give us more insight into whats going on with the team than our local media so thats a bonus

It's not.

MartinToVaught · Post #19 » by **MartinToVaught** » Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:43 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:George demands a trade on the plane ride to Charlotte.

I mean he could. And the Hornets and Sixers would certainly be burning bridges with his agent. But he got his money. And he got to pick his team. Playing like this, he's not going to get to pick his team again.

He would just quiet quit if he hated being there.

He already has no trade value anymore. That's why he's a Sixer right now and not a Warrior or a Rocket. The Sixers only wanted him because they could sign him outright without having to give anything up.

I don't think a trade demand would go well for him.