Feels inevitable Laker moves CHI/WAS

[Texas Chuck]

Bulls trade: Lavine/Craig/25 SAC 2nd
Bulls get: Russell/Vincent/Rui

Wizards trade: JV
Wizards get: Vanderbilt/25 SAC 2nd/27 LAL 2nd/30 LAL 2nd

Lakers trade: Vanderbilt/Russell,Rui/27 LAL 2nd/30 LAL 2nd
Lakers get: JV,LaVine,Craig

Bulls do this do get out of the bulk of the LaVine deal. Rui is a decent young player to keep or flip.

Wizards signed him to trade him. Get 3 2nds all of which could be good. Vanderbilt isn't great but he's cheap and playable while you rebuild.

Lakers get their perimeter "star", get a center so AD doesn't have to do it full time in the playoffs and Craig maybe can steal a few minutes. And they don't spend any meaningful assets, just eating the money.

[mg]

It makes sense for the Lakers to make this type of deal but would be really surprised if Jeanie Buss agrees to take on the Lavine contract. They are just at/ below that 2nd apron so would need to send out more salary than they take back. They did regretably take on Westbrook when he was a max type contract so I suppose anything is possible but the tax penalties are now much harsher and the Buss Family isn't exactly a deep pockets ownership group.

[nate33]

Those late SRP's don't really move the needle for Washington. Picks later than #45 aren't any more valuable than roster slots for walk-ons in training camp. Not to mention that the Wizards are taking on an extra $13.2M in 2027-28 money in this deal.

If I was running the Wizards, I'd hold out for one lotto-protected FRP. Maybe I'd have to throw in Brogdon to make it happen, but I'd be aiming for quality and not quantity.

[penbeast0]

Yes, the Wiz have extra 2nds forthcoming, we can hold out for a 1st if we trade JV; his lessons in pick setting and blocking out apparently help Sarr learn. I would try to move Kuzma rather than Brogdon if we are doing more as Vanderbilt and Hachimura play forward and both Lakers and Bulls need forwards more plus I like him less.

[ChettheJet]

Rui is very good for the Bulls, walks in and starts at the 4 with P Williams playing the 3. DLo maybe finds minutes but he'd be 5th in line behind a healthy Lonzo. The problem is once again Vincent is just about the same player as Jevon Carter but for TWICE the money. Carter barely gets off the bench so the Bulls don't need to add a clone to keep him company sitting there on their overloaded guard bench.

[dcstanley]

I think the Lakers are better off sending more salary for Vuc or buying low on Robert Williams. JV kinda sucks, especially in a playoff setting.

[nzahir]

Rui is very good for the Bulls, walks in and starts at the 4 with P Williams playing the 3. DLo maybe finds minutes but he'd be 5th in line behind a healthy Lonzo. The problem is once again Vincent is just about the same player as Jevon Carter but for TWICE the money. Carter barely gets off the bench so the Bulls don't need to add a clone to keep him company sitting there on their overloaded guard bench.

Well you guys are getting off a huge 3 year deal for Lavine (who isnt worth the $ in this new salary cap era)

We actually need to be getting compensated. We gave up 3 2nds for Rui and he has been fine, but he was also an expiring then

Vincent is a negative, but its 2 seasons

If Vando is viewed as a negative, I think you guys should be taking Vando on as well here to even things out

And instead of adding Was, BKN should be in this deal

Send them Dlo, a 1st and 1-2 2nds for DFS and Sharpe

We also need to include JHS for salary filler and either Lewis/Hayes

Not sure if Lavine is the right guy anymore though if we want Knecht to play real minutes

Defense with Lavine, Reaves, Knecht and Lebron would be horrific

Also very unbalanced, unless we want Reaves off the bench maybe?

Lavine, Knecht, DFS, Bron, AD
Reaves, Christie, Cam, Wood. Sharpe

[babyjax13]

I don't think those seconds really outweight Vanderbilt's contract. If he were healthy for an extended stretch they could, and I think there would be a decent chance he'd generate minimal value on his own ... but he just hasn't been for a long time.

I do agree LaVine to the Lakers makes a ton of sense and should happen, but the center target may need to be different.

[JB2]

Bulls trade: Lavine/Craig/25 SAC 2nd
Bulls get: Russell/Vincent/Rui

Wizards trade: JV
Wizards get: Vanderbilt/25 SAC 2nd/27 LAL 2nd/30 LAL 2nd

Lakers trade: Vanderbilt/Russell,Rui/27 LAL 2nd/30 LAL 2nd
Lakers get: JV,LaVine,Craig

Bulls do this do get out of the bulk of the LaVine deal. Rui is a decent young player to keep or flip.

Wizards signed him to trade him. Get 3 2nds all of which could be good. Vanderbilt isn't great but he's cheap and playable while you rebuild.

Lakers get their perimeter "star", get a center so AD doesn't have to do it full time in the playoffs and Craig maybe can steal a few minutes. And they don't spend any meaningful assets, just eating the money.

Jonas, Hayes, Wood
AD, Reddish
LeBron, Craig
Knecht, Max
Lavine, AR

I'm torn. Depth is unbalanced & weak - very weak - and paying Lavine seems like not a Jeanie move - but you do get a 3rd guy + size + a wing plug in without giving up 1sts or AR or Knecht.

Lakers still have MLE to use so I guess depending on buyouts, this could be a potential path, but this essentially pigeon holes them into this roster going forward as the bulk of their money is tied up in 3 contracts that they won't/can't move until Lebron is coming off the books.

Perhaps aa better path for LA would be to deal with Chicago 1-1 for that same package, keep and hope Vando is healthy, then turn JHS + Minimum(s) + Picks for a cheap center option.

[GatherStepGuru]

If WAS can’t get a young developmental piece like Kuminga, or a first, they may as well hold on to JV than trade him for some late 2nds 4-6 years in the future.

[HadAnEffectHere]

This is a big talent upgrade, but the Lakers are so abysmal at defense that I don't know if this even improves their team much.

Adding LaVine and Valanciunas to the 26th ranked defense in the NBA is brutal.

[Texas Chuck]

If WAS can’t get a young developmental piece like Kuminga, or a first, they may as well hold on to JV than trade him for some late 2nds 4-6 years in the future.

25 2nd
27 2nd

4 to 6 years?

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[OutsidetheNBA]

I don't see either of them happening.

For the Lavine trade, the Lakers' problem is defense. They send out Vincent (a solid POA defender) and Rui, who isn't a great defender but at least has size and has shown some ability to guard 5s while AD roams. In return they get LaVine, a negative defender and Craig who is pretty washed. It makes their defense much worse, makes them smaller, and takes away some lineup flexibility by making it harder to go big.

For the JV trade, I can't see WAS agreeing to it. Even if JV doesn't contribute wins, he contributes a degree of stability at the 5 that will help Sarr and the other young guys develop. No reason to jettison him this quickly unless they have a real incentive. A bad contract and 2 seconds isn't enough imo. The 2 seconds should be the price of taking Vanderbilt. Lakers need to add more to get JV.

I much prefer the Lakers/Bulls trade posted in the other thread.

[GatherStepGuru]

If WAS can’t get a young developmental piece like Kuminga, or a first, they may as well hold on to JV than trade him for some late 2nds 4-6 years in the future.

25 2nd
27 2nd

4 to 6 years?

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Thought there was a 2030 2nd in there too, no?

Overall, I think JV is worth more than future 2nds alone. As of now, he’s actually better than Sarr, and could still start for a few teams. WAS May be better served keeping him than trade for another PF and future late 2nds. Without JV, Sarr is just gonna get eaten up every night. Idk if giving away all your vets and getting blown out every night is the best way for a young team to develop.

[jbk1234]

I think the Lakers are better off sending more salary for Vuc or buying low on Robert Williams. JV kinda sucks, especially in a playoff setting.

Agreed. JV looks washed to me.

[Texas Chuck]

If WAS can’t get a young developmental piece like Kuminga, or a first, they may as well hold on to JV than trade him for some late 2nds 4-6 years in the future.

25 2nd
27 2nd

4 to 6 years?

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Thought there was a 2030 2nd in there too, no?

Overall, I think JV is worth more than future 2nds alone. As of now, he’s actually better than Sarr, and could still start for a few teams. WAS May be better served keeping him than trade for another PF and future late 2nds. Without JV, Sarr is just gonna get eaten up every night. Idk if giving away all your vets and getting blown out every night is the best way for a young team to develop.

Oh no issues if you simply think the value is too low. It may be. I just like the value to be wrong based on what is actually presented is all. Serves nothing if we take a top 40 2nd this year plus a 2nd in 3 years plus a distant 2nd and call them late 2nds 4-6 years away.

You misrepresented the return to make it seem worse. I just don't see the point in that really.

[Jody Smokz]

If LA trades for Lavine then Reaves should easily go to the bench. Lavine is a superior offensive player in every way. Reaves is a really good player and connects a lot of things but he's not a real lead guard. With Knecht playing well, Reaves should easily slot into the "Ginobli" role. Maybe you can play all 3 together in spurts but not full time or as starters together.

Rui is very good for the Bulls, walks in and starts at the 4 with P Williams playing the 3. DLo maybe finds minutes but he'd be 5th in line behind a healthy Lonzo. The problem is once again Vincent is just about the same player as Jevon Carter but for TWICE the money. Carter barely gets off the bench so the Bulls don't need to add a clone to keep him company sitting there on their overloaded guard bench.

Well you guys are getting off a huge 3 year deal for Lavine (who isnt worth the $ in this new salary cap era)

We actually need to be getting compensated. We gave up 3 2nds for Rui and he has been fine, but he was also an expiring then

Vincent is a negative, but its 2 seasons

If Vando is viewed as a negative, I think you guys should be taking Vando on as well here to even things out

And instead of adding Was, BKN should be in this deal

Send them Dlo, a 1st and 1-2 2nds for DFS and Sharpe

We also need to include JHS for salary filler and either Lewis/Hayes

Not sure if Lavine is the right guy anymore though if we want Knecht to play real minutes

Defense with Lavine, Reaves, Knecht and Lebron would be horrific

Also very unbalanced, unless we want Reaves off the bench maybe?

Lavine, Knecht, DFS, Bron, AD
Reaves, Christie, Cam, Wood. Sharpe