Offer for Cam Johnson

[JMAC3]

Charlotte is fully leaning into the Celtics model of jacking up as many threes as possible with Charles Lee as our coach.
2nd in 3pta per game. https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/traditional?dir=A&sort=FG3A
Cam Johnson is under contract long enough that his impact this season isn't the most important thing, ala a Deni Avdija type of move.

Charlotte offers: Mavs 2027 first (top 2 protected) Nick Smith Jr, Vasa Micic, and Cody Martin.

Nets send: Cam Johnson

For Nets they take back two contracts that have no money guaranteed next season, a late first rounder who hasn't found much success yet and a pick with a lot of upside being virtually unprotected.

Does this get it done?

[Magic_Johnny12]

Orlando offers still seems like a very solid offer.

Cole Anthony (expiring next season)
Jett Howard (goes and plays with his father)
‘25 FRP (via Denver - currently a lottery pick)

Maybe some seconds here and there.

[Texas Chuck]

I think its a fair offer, sure.

[JMAC3]

Orlando offers still seems like a very solid offer.

Cole Anthony (expiring next season)
Jett Howard (goes and plays with his father)
‘25 FRP (via Denver - currently a lottery pick)

Maybe some seconds here and there.

The question is how much more valuable is a top 2 protected Mavs pick in 2027 than this Denver pick?

[psman2]

Orlando offers still seems like a very solid offer.

Cole Anthony (expiring next season)
Jett Howard (goes and plays with his father)
‘25 FRP (via Denver - currently a lottery pick)

Maybe some seconds here and there.

The question is how much more valuable is a top 2 protected Mavs pick in 2027 than this Denver pick?

I rather have the Mavs pick, Denver likely rebounds to the 4-6 seed range. Rather take a shot at the unknown that is the mavs pick. Plus rather not have Cole Anthony for another season. Jett howard likey worth only a decent 2nd right now.

[Godaddycurse]

Orlando offers still seems like a very solid offer.

Cole Anthony (expiring next season)
Jett Howard (goes and plays with his father)
‘25 FRP (via Denver - currently a lottery pick)

Maybe some seconds here and there.

The question is how much more valuable is a top 2 protected Mavs pick in 2027 than this Denver pick?

I rather have the Mavs pick, Denver likely rebounds to the 4-6 seed range. Rather take a shot at the unknown that is the mavs picks. Plus rather not have Cole Anthony for another season. Jett howard likey worth only a decent 2nd right now.

agreed, especially when Brooklyn already have like 4 picks in the 2025 draft

[MasterIchiro]

I think teams would flood the Nets with bids of one first rounder and that in order to break from the pack and win the auction, Hornets would have to surrender both the Heat 1st plus Mavs 1st.

Doesn't seem likely Hornets will be buyers at the deadline given injuries and draft positioning.

Hornets could lead the pack though if they do decide to add.

I just see the Hornets as more likely to scour for the next Hayward for Tre Mann type of deal. Unload the vet for the unproven prospect buried on the depth chart of a high seed.

[Billl]

If the nets can get any sort of first for Cam Johnson, they should take it and run. It's just a matter of time before he's banged up again.

[MasterIchiro]

I think teams would flood the Nets with bids of one first rounder and that in order to break from the pack and win the auction, Hornets would have to surrender both the Heat 1st plus Mavs 1st.

Doesn't seem likely Hornets will be buyers at the deadline given injuries and draft positioning.

Hornets could lead the pack though if they do decide to add.

I just see the Hornets as more likely to scour for the next Hayward for Tre Mann type of deal. Unload the vet for the unproven prospect buried on the depth chart of a high seed.

To put a face on this.

I think a target like Cam Whitmore makes more sense for Charlotte than Cam Johnson.

[drchaos]

If the nets can get any sort of first for Cam Johnson, they should take it and run. It's just a matter of time before he's banged up again.

Cam Johnson is only 28 and has been balling out this year.

The Nets might just end up keeping him.

[TheNetsFan]

The question is how much more valuable is a top 2 protected Mavs pick in 2027 than this Denver pick?

I rather have the Mavs pick, Denver likely rebounds to the 4-6 seed range. Rather take a shot at the unknown that is the mavs picks. Plus rather not have Cole Anthony for another season. Jett howard likey worth only a decent 2nd right now.

agreed, especially when Brooklyn already have like 4 picks in the 2025 draft

6 in the top 43 picks (as of now). 4 firsts and 2 2nds. I could definitely see some creative swaps being valued as sweeteners by the Nets to slide up the board a little this year.

[TheNetsFan]

If the nets can get any sort of first for Cam Johnson, they should take it and run. It's just a matter of time before he's banged up again.

Cam Johnson is only 28 and has been balling out this year.

The Nets might just end up keeping him.

Agreed. There's no urgency to move him now. No reason to settle. The only player the Nets need to cash out on this year is DFS and maybe Schroder. Dealing Schroder would be the deal that really helps the tank. The Nets don't have any other PGs capable of creating easy shots for teammates.

[Godaddycurse]

I rather have the Mavs pick, Denver likely rebounds to the 4-6 seed range. Rather take a shot at the unknown that is the mavs picks. Plus rather not have Cole Anthony for another season. Jett howard likey worth only a decent 2nd right now.

agreed, especially when Brooklyn already have like 4 picks in the 2025 draft

6 in the top 43 picks (as of now). 4 firsts and 2 2nds. I could definitely see some creative swaps being valued as sweeteners by the Nets to slide up the board a little this year.

Yea i meant 1sts

[JKiddy]

Charlotte is fully leaning into the Celtics model of jacking up as many threes as possible with Charles Lee as our coach.
2nd in 3pta per game. https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/traditional?dir=A&sort=FG3A
Cam Johnson is under contract long enough that his impact this season isn't the most important thing, ala a Deni Avdija type of move.

Charlotte offers: Mavs 2027 first (top 2 protected) Nick Smith Jr, Vasa Micic, and Cody Martin.

Nets send: Cam Johnson

For Nets they take back two contracts that have no money guaranteed next season, a late first rounder who hasn't found much success yet and a pick with a lot of upside being virtually unprotected.

Does this get it done?

Is this real life?

[JKiddy]

I do not see the Nets trading Cam Johnson for a pile of garbage players and 1 1st rounder. If they were taking on these types of players the Nets would definitely need 2 1st rounders and probably one player who can potentially be something for them from 2025-27. None of these guys seem to be fitting into that plan.

I do not see the Nets moving him. I agree with the other posters on this thread where they need to trade Schroder because we would go into a real tank once he is gone. If we move DFS and he, which I believe they will, then the Nets could likely net a great 1st rounder and maybe a 2nd rounder with soon to be expiring contracts (this or next year) if they moved them together to a team that would need them to truly title contend quick (Lakers, Heat, Warriors, Suns) but it is dependent upon the draft and player capital those teams have.

[Papi_swav]

CamJ is one of those guys that can easily fit on any team, A very great shooter with really good size and he's having a good year. The nets are in no rush to trade him so teams will have to give up some decent value. I'm thinking a nice young prospect that isn't getting much playing time now on a rookie contract plus a 1st and salary filler. Might take a while to find a real trade partner for him

[Frankie]

I think teams would flood the Nets with bids of one first rounder and that in order to break from the pack and win the auction, Hornets would have to surrender both the Heat 1st plus Mavs 1st.

Doesn't seem likely Hornets will be buyers at the deadline given injuries and draft positioning.

Hornets could lead the pack though if they do decide to add.

I just see the Hornets as more likely to scour for the next Hayward for Tre Mann type of deal. Unload the vet for the unproven prospect buried on the depth chart of a high seed.

To put a face on this.

I think a target like Cam Whitmore makes more sense for Charlotte than Cam Johnson.

What kind of value would a guy like Whitmore even command? Drafted at 20, had an OK debut season, fallen out of the rotation so far in his second season.

Houston are seemingly always reported to be in the market for a star player, so the question becomes, would the assets they get from the Hornets make the overall package for a star player better than just having Whitmore in there?

[JMAC3]

CamJ is one of those guys that can easily fit on any team, A very great shooter with really good size and he's having a good year. The nets are in no rush to trade him so teams will have to give up some decent value. I'm thinking a nice young prospect that isn't getting much playing time now on a rookie contract plus a 1st and salary filler. Might take a while to find a real trade partner for him

This feels pretty close to the initial offer.

Vasa and Martin are both on team options essentially next year, so if Nets just want to clear cap space it is easy. If they want to pick up the options and use them in a trade they can do that as well, so a lot of fluidity there.

Young prospect is Nick Smith Jr, once the #1 prospect in his class he is still figuring things out after a rough freshman season and a lot of in/out of Charlottes rotation. He is a good shooter for the most part and has a nice floater, push shot game around the rim. His biggest challenges are size/defense and getting all the way to basket for true layups. He may not work out, but if Nets are really tanking and getting rid of Schroder then NSJ would have a consistent opportunity to find his game in Bkln and he is a good kid that is easy to root for.

Lastly is the pick, I think it is one of the better picks you could ask for given that it is a little further out, but not a 2031 pick that is forever away. It also could be as high as the 3rd pick in 2027 due to light protections the Mavs placed on it. Mavs are a pretty solid team but the Western conference is a bloodbath on who wins any given night.

[JMAC3]

I think teams would flood the Nets with bids of one first rounder and that in order to break from the pack and win the auction, Hornets would have to surrender both the Heat 1st plus Mavs 1st.

Doesn't seem likely Hornets will be buyers at the deadline given injuries and draft positioning.

Hornets could lead the pack though if they do decide to add.

I just see the Hornets as more likely to scour for the next Hayward for Tre Mann type of deal. Unload the vet for the unproven prospect buried on the depth chart of a high seed.

To put a face on this.

I think a target like Cam Whitmore makes more sense for Charlotte than Cam Johnson.

What kind of value would a guy like Whitmore even command? Drafted at 20, had an OK debut season, fallen out of the rotation so far in his second season.

Houston are seemingly always reported to be in the market for a star player, so the question becomes, would the assets they get from the Hornets make the overall package for a star player better than just having Whitmore in there?

I would say a good 2nd round pick projected top 40 along with 1 or 2 more 2nds. So 3 2nds in total feels more than fair. I don't think any team is giving up a 1st round pick for him at this point.

[jbk1234]

Orlando offers still seems like a very solid offer.

Cole Anthony (expiring next season)
Jett Howard (goes and plays with his father)
‘25 FRP (via Denver - currently a lottery pick)

Maybe some seconds here and there.

I think that when a team projected to have a lot of cap space next summer, communicates that it doesn't want to take back money next summer, it's not going to take back future money. Make it G. Harris (or Mo Wagner) and Jett instead.