Minnesota - SAS - Chicago

[Godaddycurse]

Minnesota trade: Randle, DET 2025 protected 1st
Minnesota receive: White, Collins

SAS trade: Collins, Jones, filler, CHI 2025 protected 1st
SAS receive: Randle

Chicago trade: White
Chicago receive: Jones, filler, DET + CHI 2025 protected 1sts

Why for Minny: add a starting caliber PG and a back up C to address their needs
Why for SAS: They could really use someone to help create offense beyond Wemby. Randle could help them make a playoff push (no guarantees how far they would get, but i think at this price its worth a shot)
Why for Chicago: get 2 1sts for White

[winforlose]

Minnesota trade: Randle, DET 2025 protected 1st
Minnesota receive: White, Collins

SAS trade: Collins, Jones, filler, CHI 2025 protected 1st
SAS receive: Randle

Chicago trade: White
Chicago receive: Jones, filler, DET + CHI 2025 protected 1sts

Why for Minny: add a starting caliber PG and a back up C to address their needs
Why for SAS: They could really use someone to help create offense beyond Wemby. Randle could help them make a playoff push (no guarantees how far they would get, but i think at this price its worth a shot)
Why for Chicago: get 2 1sts for White

There is no way Colby White is leaving Chicago. I would love to acquire him. I think getting him would make the Towns trade look a hell of a lot better. But, White is a foundation piece for Chicago, and they won’t part with him. No matter how quickly I would I say yes to your suggested deal, they just won’t.

[shrink]

As a MIN fan, I appreciate a Randle trade that tries to meet the Wolves’ needs.

Zach Collins is an interesting fit, who could likely play with Naz Reid and maybe even Gobert. His $18 mil salary next year though may be rough for financially-strapped MIN. Randle has looked better for MIN lately, and for the season his stats are 6.7 RB, 4.0 AST, 21.0 PPG, 35.6 3P%.

Coby White is intriguing as well, as a more win-now heir to Mike Conley. However, MIN already invested a 2030 pick swap and 2131 unprotected 1st into that heir in Rob Dillingham. I think MIN would be more inclined if Dillingham was involved - maybe get their picks back from the Spurs? Dillingham has looked better than I expected when he gets the chance to play, and moving his salary might help them afford Collins and Naz next season.

[winforlose]

As a MIN fan, I appreciate a Randle trade that tries to meet the Wolves’ needs.

Zach Collins is an interesting fit, who could likely play with Naz Reid and maybe even Gobert. His $18 mil salary next year though may be rough for financially-strapped MIN. Randle has looked better for MIN lately, and for the season his stats are 6.7 RB, 4.0 AST, 21.0 PPG, 35.6 3P%.

Coby White is intriguing as well, as a more win-now heir to Mike Conley. However, MIN already invested a 2030 pick swap and 2131 unprotected 1st into that heir in Rob Dillingham. I think MIN would be more inclined if Dillingham was involved - maybe get their picks back from the Spurs? Dillingham has looked better than I expected, and moving his salary might help them afford Collins and Naz next season.

Shrink, White can play the PG and the SG. This deal is a hands down no brainer for us. Send Dilly to the G for a year, by next year Mike will be much more washed. Meanwhile White starts now and Mike backs him up. It gives more leverage in extending NAW, it takes pressure off of Mike who can rest. Moves DDV to SG permanently, which is what he wants. Hell, to make this happen I would toss in Luka Garza, who Chicago might some situational use in. That said it is a pipe dream because Chicago wouldn’t give him up. I love it for the Wolves, but it just won’t happen

Edit to add: Instead of Zach Collins coming here we could do White and Vuc to the Wolves send out Randle and Miller, still give the first to the Bulls, and the Bulls negotiate the back end of the deal how they want to get the other first. I would really love to find a way to make Coby White a Wolf. Leonard Miller to the Bulls would be nice for them as he is a prospect with real upside and a lot of years of team control.

[One_and_Done]

I don't see the Spurs doing this.

[Chi town]

Minnesota trade: Randle, DET 2025 protected 1st
Minnesota receive: White, Collins

SAS trade: Collins, Jones, filler, CHI 2025 protected 1st
SAS receive: Randle

Chicago trade: White
Chicago receive: Jones, filler, DET + CHI 2025 protected 1sts

Why for Minny: add a starting caliber PG and a back up C to address their needs
Why for SAS: They could really use someone to help create offense beyond Wemby. Randle could help them make a playoff push (no guarantees how far they would get, but i think at this price its worth a shot)
Why for Chicago: get 2 1sts for White

There is no way Colby White is leaving Chicago. I would love to acquire him. I think getting him would make the Towns trade look a hell of a lot better. But, White is a foundation piece for Chicago, and they won’t part with him. No matter how quickly I would I say yes to your suggested deal, they just won’t.

Not true. I expect him to be traded if we can’t trade Zach. Reports have already said that both Ayo and Coby are available.

[redslastlaugh]

I don't see the Spurs doing this.

Julius Randle does not seem like a match for the Spurs culture, I don’t think SAS would have interest

[winforlose]

Minnesota trade: Randle, DET 2025 protected 1st
Minnesota receive: White, Collins

SAS trade: Collins, Jones, filler, CHI 2025 protected 1st
SAS receive: Randle

Chicago trade: White
Chicago receive: Jones, filler, DET + CHI 2025 protected 1sts

Why for Minny: add a starting caliber PG and a back up C to address their needs
Why for SAS: They could really use someone to help create offense beyond Wemby. Randle could help them make a playoff push (no guarantees how far they would get, but i think at this price its worth a shot)
Why for Chicago: get 2 1sts for White

There is no way Colby White is leaving Chicago. I would love to acquire him. I think getting him would make the Towns trade look a hell of a lot better. But, White is a foundation piece for Chicago, and they won’t part with him. No matter how quickly I would I say yes to your suggested deal, they just won’t.

Not true. I expect him to be traded if we can’t trade Zach. Reports have already said that both Ayo and Coby are available.

Great. What is the price point. I am big Coby White fan and would love to acquire him for the Wolves.

[Chi town]

Two 1sts and expirings is what Bulls board seems to think.

Very few teams could give that. Think he only gets traded if we can’t unload Zach for same deal but one first or a prospect.

[winforlose]

Two 1sts and expirings is what Bulls board seems to think.

Very few teams could give that. Think he only gets traded if we can’t unload Zach for same deal but one first or a prospect.

My suggestion (someone please check the math,) Wolves send Randle, Leonard Miller, and the Detroit 1st anywhere it needs to go. Bulls use that value to get acquire another first (1 first for Randle doesn’t seem that unreasonable given it includes bird rights and an option for another well priced year he probably cannot beat on the market.) Wolves get back Coby White and Vuc. Miller for Vuc is a good deal, you got the 1st we send plus Randle’s value to a 3rd team. This should be enough under your model.

[Pipp33]

Minnesota trade: Randle, DET 2025 protected 1st
Minnesota receive: White, Collins

SAS trade: Collins, Jones, filler, CHI 2025 protected 1st
SAS receive: Randle

Chicago trade: White
Chicago receive: Jones, filler, DET + CHI 2025 protected 1sts

Why for Minny: add a starting caliber PG and a back up C to address their needs
Why for SAS: They could really use someone to help create offense beyond Wemby. Randle could help them make a playoff push (no guarantees how far they would get, but i think at this price its worth a shot)
Why for Chicago: get 2 1sts for White

There is no way Colby White is leaving Chicago. I would love to acquire him. I think getting him would make the Towns trade look a hell of a lot better. But, White is a foundation piece for Chicago, and they won’t part with him. No matter how quickly I would I say yes to your suggested deal, they just won’t.

Not true. I expect him to be traded if we can’t trade Zach. Reports have already said that both Ayo and Coby are available.

Agree 100% . White will be traded if the return is what they want.

Zach, Vuc and White are the 3 obvious trade pieces and I think Pat Williams will be included too if there's interest. Especially with Matas starting to look like he deserves more minutes.

Bulls need to start losing well to guarantee we keep our Top 10 protected pick. So giving as many minutes as possible to Giddey, Matas, Ayo, Phillips and Terry should be the priority ....although who knows what ownership and FO will do

[winforlose]

There is no way Colby White is leaving Chicago. I would love to acquire him. I think getting him would make the Towns trade look a hell of a lot better. But, White is a foundation piece for Chicago, and they won’t part with him. No matter how quickly I would I say yes to your suggested deal, they just won’t.

Not true. I expect him to be traded if we can’t trade Zach. Reports have already said that both Ayo and Coby are available.

Agree 100% . White will be traded if the return is what they want.

Zach, Vuc and White are the 3 obvious trade pieces and I think Pat Williams will be included too if there's interest. Especially with Matas starting to look like he deserves more minutes.

Bulls need to start losing well to guarantee we keep our Top 10 protected pick. So giving as many minutes as possible to Giddey, Matas, Ayo, Phillips and Terry should be the priority ....although who knows what ownership and FO will do

Again as a Wolves fan I would LOVE to acquire Vuc and White. I think Leonard Miller for Vuc is a fair value exchange. He is a 21 year old big who has range potential. He can play PF or C and fits a rebuild timeline perfectly. Plus you will be able to get his 2nd contract cheap as well using bird rights and RFA status. As for White, Randle should be able to get you a first, and we would give you the other. Two firsts for White plus whatever other value you can squeeze out of Randle. We would also probably give you PJ Dozier just to open a roster spot for us. He will DEFINITELY help your tank. If you start him you won’t win another game

[ChettheJet]

I could be wrong of course but I don't see SAS thinking Randle is the type of team player that want to surround Wenby. Whether he is or not Randle sees himself as the Big #1 and feels that at this stage in his career wherever he is should be his team.

I would say there might be some teams would give up 2 picks for Randle but I seriously think SAS are not one of them. They have some pieces around Wemby and want to add more and they have picks they can trade but I'd say they would do better taking Coby White for the Bulls pick back and maybe the DET pick if they were clearing out a contract. White has shown he can be a complimentary player but step it up when called for.

[Godaddycurse]

I could be wrong of course but I don't see SAS thinking Randle is the type of team player that want to surround Wenby. Whether he is or not Randle sees himself as the Big #1 and feels that at this stage in his career wherever he is should be his team.

I would say there might be some teams would give up 2 picks for Randle but I seriously think SAS are not one of them. They have some pieces around Wemby and want to add more and they have picks they can trade but I'd say they would do better taking Coby White for the Bulls pick back and maybe the DET pick if they were clearing out a contract. White has shown he can be a complimentary player but step it up when called for.

SAS gives one pick, not 2 in OP

[schaffy]

I could be wrong of course but I don't see SAS thinking Randle is the type of team player that want to surround Wenby. Whether he is or not Randle sees himself as the Big #1 and feels that at this stage in his career wherever he is should be his team.

I would say there might be some teams would give up 2 picks for Randle but I seriously think SAS are not one of them. They have some pieces around Wemby and want to add more and they have picks they can trade but I'd say they would do better taking Coby White for the Bulls pick back and maybe the DET pick if they were clearing out a contract. White has shown he can be a complimentary player but step it up when called for.

FWIW, so far in Minnesota Randle has said and done nothing to make me believe he thinks that. He's talked about fitting in to what was already here. He's doing what they want from him on offense which is provide another guy who is capable of creating his own shot and for others, something they lack outside of Ant. They've been pretty open about wanting him to play his game on that end and not worry about stepping on toes. Defense is another story. It's been 20 games, that could all change. Or the trade could have been a bit of a wakeup.

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[Danimals]

What would it take for the Bulls to part with White and Smith?

[wemby]

I could be wrong of course but I don't see SAS thinking Randle is the type of team player that want to surround Wenby. Whether he is or not Randle sees himself as the Big #1 and feels that at this stage in his career wherever he is should be his team.

I would say there might be some teams would give up 2 picks for Randle but I seriously think SAS are not one of them. They have some pieces around Wemby and want to add more and they have picks they can trade but I'd say they would do better taking Coby White for the Bulls pick back and maybe the DET pick if they were clearing out a contract. White has shown he can be a complimentary player but step it up when called for.

I was going to say this. Randall is a bad fit all around, in terms of skill set, character, and contract. If Spurs get involved in this deal it is to pry Coby White, not to help TWolves do so. With that said, I like Coby White but I'm not sure Spurs should go for him given he's got one more season beyond this one at a bargain deal, he might command a huge contract after that and it takes a lot of the appeal from him, because you want him as your 4th option on a contender but he's likely getting paid as a top 2 guy. If that's the case I'd pass, unless Spurs are confident they can extend him for a reasonable annual figure.

[wemby]

I could be wrong of course but I don't see SAS thinking Randle is the type of team player that want to surround Wenby. Whether he is or not Randle sees himself as the Big #1 and feels that at this stage in his career wherever he is should be his team.

I would say there might be some teams would give up 2 picks for Randle but I seriously think SAS are not one of them. They have some pieces around Wemby and want to add more and they have picks they can trade but I'd say they would do better taking Coby White for the Bulls pick back and maybe the DET pick if they were clearing out a contract. White has shown he can be a complimentary player but step it up when called for.

SAS gives one pick, not 2 in OP

Yeah, the better one and they get the head case.

[Godaddycurse]

I could be wrong of course but I don't see SAS thinking Randle is the type of team player that want to surround Wenby. Whether he is or not Randle sees himself as the Big #1 and feels that at this stage in his career wherever he is should be his team.

I would say there might be some teams would give up 2 picks for Randle but I seriously think SAS are not one of them. They have some pieces around Wemby and want to add more and they have picks they can trade but I'd say they would do better taking Coby White for the Bulls pick back and maybe the DET pick if they were clearing out a contract. White has shown he can be a complimentary player but step it up when called for.

SAS gives one pick, not 2 in OP

Yeah, the better one and they get the head case.

chicago just started their rebuild while Detroit is trying actively to win. I think the DET pick has higher likelihood of conveying than the chicago pick

[wemby]

SAS gives one pick, not 2 in OP

Yeah, the better one and they get the head case.

chicago just started their rebuild while Detroit is trying actively to win. I think the DET pick has higher likelihood of conveying than the chicago pick

Bulls are notorious for refusing to tank and the pick is protected 10-8-8, it's possible the pick doesn't convey this year but I don't see them being that bad for 3 straight years. In any case the trade is bad regardless.