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Denver Charlotte trade

Posted: Sun Dec 8, 2024 9:10 am
by JDR720
Charlotte trades: Nick Richards, Vasa Micic and 2nd round pick (maybe Denver's own)

Denver trades: Nnaji, Saric, and a lightly protected 1st.

Charlotte upgrades assets, Denver upgrades depth.

Re: Denver Charlotte trade

Posted: Sun Dec 8, 2024 12:34 pm
by Mrakar
Vasa Micic is like PG Saric. He cant play serious NBA playoff basketball because of his defense. If Denver cant do anything better with their 1st rounder, they shouldnt trade it.

Re: Denver Charlotte trade

Posted: Sun Dec 8, 2024 12:55 pm
by db-coop
JDR720 wrote:Charlotte trades: Nick Richards, Vasa Micic and 2nd round pick (maybe Denver's own)

Denver trades: Nnaji, Saric, and a lightly protected 1st.

Charlotte upgrades assets, Denver upgrades depth.


I like the premise of this trade very much, however I am a bit unsure if the picks Denver owe in the future makes it unlikely for the teams to come to agreement on the terms of the future picks. Denver's first available 1st is 2031, assuming the picks they owe in 2025, 2027, 2029 all convey in the first possible year, (all are top 5 protected). Denver does not hold its own 2031 second, so there can be no back-up to the pick - if it lands in the protected range (or any of the priviously traded picks does), then it cannot convey. For Charlotte I think the pick has to be top 3 protected or less, the money they take on is bad and taking it on for nothing makes no sense. If the pick is too highly protected then Denver can (if bad by 2031) tank to keep it, and it will not convey.

As far as the trade goes I really like how it solves a lot of Denver's issues. Replacing Saric and DeAndre Jordan's minutes with Nick Richards', and replacing Westbrook with Micic should help Denver. A lot of addition by subraction as a lot of the worst +/- guys on Denver are either going out in the trade or are being replaced by the pieces coming in. Richards and Micic are not ideal, but they are better than what Denver has.

One idea coming out of the above could be to look for another team that could be a better match. Maybe there is a team with a center and guard that would fit also that would be a better trade partner. Maybe a better team or someone holding multible firsts where pick-swap with Denver could be more valuable in 2026/2028/2030?

Re: Denver Charlotte trade

Posted: Sun Dec 8, 2024 1:17 pm
by MasterIchiro
I feel like Micic is destined to play for the Nuggets, but with his recent play, Hornets can hold him hostage through this deadline and simply exercise his option for next season at a decent cost for a small market team. There are no tax pressures.

Hornets kind of fall into the same boat with Nick Richards. He's a cheap C2 where Hornets can exercise his option for next year. There is no urgency to sell him at market value in a sellers market. The trade deadline now with the play-in is a sellers market. Many believers, few sellers.

And for Denver, if I were playing .500 ball, not so sure I feel confident trading distant 1st round picks, period. They're not getting longterm pieces here. I don't think this bundle moves the needle for them short term.

Re: Denver Charlotte trade

Posted: Sun Dec 8, 2024 6:25 pm
by HornetJail
yeah i'm down to take on Nnaji+Saric contracts for a the 75% chance at a 1st rounder (it won't even convey if any of their 2025, 2027, 2029 1sts are top 5)

I don't think Denver goes for this though, and ask for something more.