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Houston/PHX/BKN If PHX gives up (Booker/Durant).

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:02 pm
by Xman
What if PHX could get picks back and cap clear? They are collapsing so this could be time.
BKN would love to get that 2027 swap back from Houston so it can collapse the roster.
Houston is good - how much would they give to be really good right now?

To make money work, need to break down into separate deals (each works on espn tradechecker):

Durant for Vleet
Booker for Jabari, Whitmore, JeffGreen, Tate, Landale and Holiday (could be Adams instead of Landale and Holiday)
Beal to BKN for Simmons and JWilson
Nurkic to BKN for BojanB.

BKN - in aggregate - sends Simmons, JWilson, BojanB, 2025/28 PHX swap for Beal, Nurkic, 2027 swap returned.
BKN takes on Nurkic and Beal contracts (two years of Beal hurts but is not too long). Sinks for two years to really rebuild.

PHX - in aggregate - sends Beal, Nurkic, Durant for picks back from Houston and swap from BKN, two top prospects (Jabari, Whitmore) and team options (Vleet, JeffGreen, Tate). Would have over $100 million in cap space next year. Still has swap issues in 2026/28/30.
edit- add Houston firsts in 2028&2030. Swaps in 2027&29.

Houston:
Pg - Amen Thompson, Reed Sheppard
Sg - Booker, JalenGreen
Sf - Brooks
Pf - Durant, Eason
C - Sengun, Adams
- That would be a sweet nine deep rotation.

Re: Houston/PHX/BKN If PHX gives up (Booker/Durant).

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:06 pm
by Godaddycurse
OP's offer is not enough for Booker alone, nvm Durant as well

beal wont agree to go to brooklyn. phoenix also shouldnt pay to dump beal

Re: Houston/PHX/BKN If PHX gives up (Booker/Durant).

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:24 pm
by Xman
[quote="Godaddycurse"]OP's offer is not enough for Booker alone, nvm Durant as well[/quote]

Could add future Houston picks if that evens it up.
Jalen G is poison pill so not dealable.
Only other thing that could be added without hamstringing the team would be reed Sheppard.

Keep in mind phx also unloads murkier and Beal.

Re: Houston/PHX/BKN If PHX gives up (Booker/Durant).

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:27 pm
by JMAC3
So this is essentially

Suns send Booker, Durant, Beal, Nurkic for

3 firsts, Jabari Smith, Van Vleet and Cam Whitmore

Feels like maybe the worst trade ever?

Re: Houston/PHX/BKN If PHX gives up (Booker/Durant).

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:43 pm
by drchaos
Brooklyn is currently a playoff team with a bunch of draft capital and cap space heading into next year.

There is no way they want any part of Beal and you have them doing this for one lousy pick swap?

Re: Houston/PHX/BKN If PHX gives up (Booker/Durant).

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:49 pm
by Hook_Em
KD and the Rockets are a good match but the 2nd apron kills any deal unless Van Vleet is involved and that would leave Houston w/o a PG.

Re: Houston/PHX/BKN If PHX gives up (Booker/Durant).

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:50 pm
by mademan
Im not sure how you get both of the Suns best players while holding onto all 3 of your best prospects. That's crazy

Re: Houston/PHX/BKN If PHX gives up (Booker/Durant).

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:52 pm
by jbk1234
drchaos wrote:Brooklyn is currently a playoff team with a bunch of draft capital and cap space heading into next year.

There is no way they want any part of Beal and you have them doing this for one lousy pick swap?


Yeah, this is all kinds of Brutal for the Nets. They'd want no part of it.

Re: Houston/PHX/BKN If PHX gives up (Booker/Durant).

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:03 pm
by Godaddycurse
jbk1234 wrote:
drchaos wrote:Brooklyn is currently a playoff team with a bunch of draft capital and cap space heading into next year.

There is no way they want any part of Beal and you have them doing this for one lousy pick swap?


Yeah, this is all kinds of Brutal for the Nets. They'd want no part of it.


fortunately for nets beal want no part of them either

Re: Houston/PHX/BKN If PHX gives up (Booker/Durant).

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:06 pm
by jbk1234
Godaddycurse wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
drchaos wrote:Brooklyn is currently a playoff team with a bunch of draft capital and cap space heading into next year.

There is no way they want any part of Beal and you have them doing this for one lousy pick swap?


Yeah, this is all kinds of Brutal for the Nets. They'd want no part of it.


fortunately for nets beal want no part of them either


If the Suns decide to blow it up, they should offer zero incentive to move Nurkic and Beal. Those costs are truly sunk.

Re: Houston/PHX/BKN If PHX gives up (Booker/Durant).

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:10 pm
by Godaddycurse
jbk1234 wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
Yeah, this is all kinds of Brutal for the Nets. They'd want no part of it.


fortunately for nets beal want no part of them either


If the Suns decide to blow it up, they should offer zero incentive to move Nurkic and Beal. Those costs are truly sunk.


yea i meant beal has NTC and probably refuses to go to a rebuilding brooklyn team

Re: Houston/PHX/BKN If PHX gives up (Booker/Durant).

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:31 pm
by ThatBoyNick
This is crazy lol

Houston needs to give up a lot more. Should try to keep Fred and Dillon if going all in, needs to be done in the off-season.