Lakers fill main holes with Nets and Bulls

[zimpy27]

Lakers get Lonzo, DFS, Sharpe
Lakers give DLo, Vincent, Vando, LAL29FRP

Nets get DLo, LAL29FRP
Nets give DFS, Sharpe, worst of NYK/MIL25FRP

Bulls get Vincent, Vando, worst of NYK/MIL25FRP
Bulls give Lonzo


Lakers get the 3 key pieces they covet: defensive guard, wing and center.
Lonzo, Reaves, DFS, LeBron, Davis -- Christie, Reddish, Knecht, Rui, Sharpe

Nets get an unprotected FRP in 29 and an expiring DLo. Nets shuffle out the worst of their 3 FRPs this season.

Bulls get an FRP in this draft for taking on long money and moving an expiring Lonzo.

[drchaos]

It would seem that the Nets giving up DFS for DLo and a swap of first rounders would be enough considering how good the 2025 draft class is.

I don't think they are throwing in Sharpe for free.

[zimpy27]

It would seem that the Nets giving up DFS for DLo and a swap of first rounders would be enough considering how good the 2025 draft class is.

I don't think they are throwing in Sharpe for free.

It's not a swap of FRPs.

Nets get Lakers 29 FRP, Nets give up the worst of 3 FRPs they have in the 25 draft.

Sharpes value is baker into the trade, not free.

[Godaddycurse]

Should cost more than a late 1st to dump 40M extra salary after this year

[drchaos]

It would seem that the Nets giving up DFS for DLo and a swap of first rounders would be enough considering how good the 2025 draft class is.

I don't think they are throwing in Sharpe for free.

It's not a swap of FRPs.

Nets get Lakers 29 FRP, Nets give up the worst of 3 FRPs they have in the 25 draft.

Sharpes value is baker into the trade, not free.

How is trading a 2025 FRP for a 2029 FRP not a swap of first round picks?

The Nets are tanking this year so swapping DFS for DLo doesn't really mean much for the Nets.

I am not sure why the Nets would give up a late first rounder with this year's great draft class for a future pick or why they should give up Sharpe for the right to do so.

That 2025 first rounder could be used to get a player on a great salary by using the pick, could be used to trade up, or could be part of a deal for a superstar.

I just don't see why the Nets want any part of this deal.

[zimpy27]

It would seem that the Nets giving up DFS for DLo and a swap of first rounders would be enough considering how good the 2025 draft class is.

I don't think they are throwing in Sharpe for free.

It's not a swap of FRPs.

Nets get Lakers 29 FRP, Nets give up the worst of 3 FRPs they have in the 25 draft.

Sharpes value is baker into the trade, not free.

How is trading a 2025 FRP for a 2029 FRP not a swap of first round picks?

The Nets are tanking this year so swapping DFS for DLo doesn't really mean much for the Nets.

I am not sure why the Nets would give up a late first rounder with this year's great draft class for a future pick or why they should give up Sharpe for the right to do so.

That 2025 first rounder could be used to get a player on a great salary by using the pick, could be used to trade up, or could be part of a deal for a superstar.

I just don't see why the Nets want any part of this deal.

This draft class is not anymore great than usual after lottery. When people say great draft class they're really talking about lottery talent and more typially top 5 talent.

[zimpy27]

Should cost more than a late 1st to dump 40M extra salary after this year

Vando isn't really a dump. Vincent sure. Vando is worth the money and in the Bulls timeframe, he's coming off surgery and slowly coming back. Hell be back before deadline.

[drchaos]

This draft class is not anymore great than usual after lottery. When people say great draft class they're really talking about lottery talent and more typially top 5 talent.

It was my understanding that this was a deep draft class.

Is that not the case?

[zimpy27]

This draft class is not anymore great than usual after lottery. When people say great draft class they're really talking about lottery talent and more typially top 5 talent.

It was my understanding that this was a deep draft class.

Is that not the case?

Deep draft in that there's very good talent throughout lottery. Like the top 10 of this draft class look like they'd be top 5 in an average draft.

Most the time when people evaluate the strength of a draft it's typically in regards to the number of players they see with all star level talent or the potential for all NBA talent.

When it comes to pick 20 there's no knowing how that stacks up between drafts. Recently you get your juniors and seniors that showed out in this range.

[mg]

Take Chicago out of the deal. The Laker/Net part of the trade has potential but I see no reason for the Lakers to give up a single asset for Lonzo at this point.

The Lakers are too short on depth without using their limited capspace/assets on Lonzo.

[Godaddycurse]

Should cost more than a late 1st to dump 40M extra salary after this year

Vando isn't really a dump. Vincent sure. Vando is worth the money and in the Bulls timeframe, he's coming off surgery and slowly coming back. Hell be back before deadline.

if i was the bulls i wouldn't be interested in his contract/he's not worth the money for him. Maybe if he comes back and show he's healthy and effective before the deadline but until then, no thanks

[jayjaysee]

If LAL actually does their trade with Brooklyn, there’s no way a team should say no.

That’s a smart Presti trade. And Brooklyn should make it.

The Chicago part.. I do like Vandy coming in if he’s healthy. He is a decent fit for a team that doesn’t want a long rebuild.

But LAL shouldn’t be trading an unprotected first for this. Distant unprotected firsts should be (and typically are) held a lot higher.

[ChettheJet]

For now forget that the Bulls STILL have no use for Vincent and his 2 years when they have Jevon Carer at half the price for the same two years to sit on the bench. Who is the Santa Claus who delivers the Bulls a solid PF in Vandebuilt and a FRP which they currently lack for a post deadline few games of a still building minutes Lonzo Ball?

[ejftw]

I'm not nearly as high on Sharpe, but don't think he's inclusion is something the Nets should do here. At least not without a second or two coming back.

I see no way Chicago does the deal, nor how Vanderbilt has shown to be worth his money, yet. Finding a team to take Gabe for an expiring along with a pair of seconds though shouldn't be hard. Wouldn't be opposed to the Clippers doing Tucker+Bones for Vincent+set of seconds, personally

[zimpy27]

Take Chicago out of the deal. The Laker/Net part of the trade has potential but I see no reason for the Lakers to give up a single asset for Lonzo at this point.

The Lakers are too short on depth without using their limited capspace/assets on Lonzo.

Would have to change up the deal if Bulls not included since Lonzo is the playmaking coming back when losing DLo.

Lakers get DFS, Sharpe

Nets get Vincent, Vando, LAL29FRP(top 4 protected)

[drchaos]

Take Chicago out of the deal. The Laker/Net part of the trade has potential but I see no reason for the Lakers to give up a single asset for Lonzo at this point.

The Lakers are too short on depth without using their limited capspace/assets on Lonzo.

Would have to change up the deal if Bulls not included since Lonzo is the playmaking coming back when losing DLo.

Lakers get DFS, Sharpe

Nets get Vincent, Vando, LAL29FRP(top 4 protected)

Nets want no part of those two players.

They would increase our payroll this year and would remain on the books when we are looking at the free agent market.

If the deal is a first rounder for DFS and Sharpe at least give us an expiring like DLo coming back.

[zimpy27]

Take Chicago out of the deal. The Laker/Net part of the trade has potential but I see no reason for the Lakers to give up a single asset for Lonzo at this point.

The Lakers are too short on depth without using their limited capspace/assets on Lonzo.

Would have to change up the deal if Bulls not included since Lonzo is the playmaking coming back when losing DLo.

Lakers get DFS, Sharpe

Nets get Vincent, Vando, LAL29FRP(top 4 protected)

Nets want no part of those two players.

They would increase our payroll this year and would remain on the books when we are looking at the free agent market.

If the deal is a first rounder for DFS and Sharpe at least give us an expiring like DLo coming back.

Yes that's why the trade needs to work as in OP. It doesn't fully fit without Bulls.

[zimpy27]

If LAL actually does their trade with Brooklyn, there’s no way a team should say no.

That’s a smart Presti trade. And Brooklyn should make it.

The Chicago part.. I do like Vandy coming in if he’s healthy. He is a decent fit for a team that doesn’t want a long rebuild.

But LAL shouldn’t be trading an unprotected first for this. Distant unprotected firsts should be (and typically are) held a lot higher.

Do you think Bulls are getting too much value? Should they send the POR25FRP(lottery protected) to Lakers?

[drchaos]

Would have to change up the deal if Bulls not included since Lonzo is the playmaking coming back when losing DLo.

Lakers get DFS, Sharpe

Nets get Vincent, Vando, LAL29FRP(top 4 protected)

Nets want no part of those two players.

They would increase our payroll this year and would remain on the books when we are looking at the free agent market.

If the deal is a first rounder for DFS and Sharpe at least give us an expiring like DLo coming back.

Yes that's why the trade needs to work as in OP. It doesn't fully fit without Bulls.

If the Nets keep their first round pick and the Lakers give the Bulls a couple second rounders instead of the Nets pick this deal might be a bit closer to working.

For both DFS and Sharpe a first rounder and an expiring seem to be a fair trade to us.

[jayjaysee]

If LAL actually does their trade with Brooklyn, there’s no way a team should say no.

That’s a smart Presti trade. And Brooklyn should make it.

The Chicago part.. I do like Vandy coming in if he’s healthy. He is a decent fit for a team that doesn’t want a long rebuild.

But LAL shouldn’t be trading an unprotected first for this. Distant unprotected firsts should be (and typically are) held a lot higher.

Do you think Bulls are getting too much value? Should they send the POR25FRP(lottery protected) to Lakers?

Na, because Vandy isn’t healthy. And hasn’t been. Their part is already thin IMO, that’s a lot of future money for a very low level asset.

But if they do not plan on doing a rebuild, Vandy should be a good fit with Vooch. And if he does come back and look good, you have a guy you want playing 24mpg at a position that you need help at..

But you have to get paid to take that risk.

If anything, I think it looks like the Portland first goes to Brooklyn and Chicago gets the higher upside asset. They are the ones paying 40ish million in future money. But you probably can still put top 4 protection on it for a couple years..

Then have someone send Brooklyn a second or two since the Portland first may never convey..