RealGM

LAL in: Robert Williams
POR in: Jarred Vanderbilt, Max Lewis, 2025 LAL SRP, 2025 LAC SRP, 2030 LAL SRP

Lakers trade one oft-injured player for another oft-injured player that is more impactful when healthy.

Portland cashes in on one of their many centers to the tune of three second round picks. Vando may be able to be flipped for some value down the line if he gets healthy and performs on the court.

dcstanley wrote:LAL in: Robert Williams
POR in: Jarred Vanderbilt, Max Lewis, 2025 LAL SRP, 2025 LAC SRP, 2030 LAL SRP

Lakers trade one oft-injured player for another oft-injured player that is more impactful when healthy.

Portland cashes in on one of their many centers to the tune of three second round picks. Vando may be able to be flipped for some value down the line if he gets healthy and performs on the court.

No thanks from POR.

Hoping for a return that does not include a bad contract, or includes FRP if it does.

JRoy wrote:

dcstanley wrote:LAL in: Robert Williams
POR in: Jarred Vanderbilt, Max Lewis, 2025 LAL SRP, 2025 LAC SRP, 2030 LAL SRP

Lakers trade one oft-injured player for another oft-injured player that is more impactful when healthy.

Portland cashes in on one of their many centers to the tune of three second round picks. Vando may be able to be flipped for some value down the line if he gets healthy and performs on the court.

No thanks from POR.

Hoping for a return that does not include a bad contract, or includes FRP if it does.

Holy hell does this guy do anything else on this site besides going around every team boards and stating "Portland says no"?

sogood wrote:

JRoy wrote:

dcstanley wrote:LAL in: Robert Williams
POR in: Jarred Vanderbilt, Max Lewis, 2025 LAL SRP, 2025 LAC SRP, 2030 LAL SRP

Lakers trade one oft-injured player for another oft-injured player that is more impactful when healthy.

Portland cashes in on one of their many centers to the tune of three second round picks. Vando may be able to be flipped for some value down the line if he gets healthy and performs on the court.

No thanks from POR.

Hoping for a return that does not include a bad contract, or includes FRP if it does.

Holy hell does this guy do anything else on this site besides going around every team boards and stating "Portland says no"?

He did agree to Beauchamp + MKE '31 2nd for Banton recently!

Nothing but love for JRoy.

sogood wrote:

JRoy wrote:

dcstanley wrote:LAL in: Robert Williams
POR in: Jarred Vanderbilt, Max Lewis, 2025 LAL SRP, 2025 LAC SRP, 2030 LAL SRP

Lakers trade one oft-injured player for another oft-injured player that is more impactful when healthy.

Portland cashes in on one of their many centers to the tune of three second round picks. Vando may be able to be flipped for some value down the line if he gets healthy and performs on the court.

No thanks from POR.

Hoping for a return that does not include a bad contract, or includes FRP if it does.

Holy hell does this guy do anything else on this site besides going around every team boards and stating "Portland says no"?

I provide that service mostly on the trade board.

JRoy wrote:

dcstanley wrote:LAL in: Robert Williams
POR in: Jarred Vanderbilt, Max Lewis, 2025 LAL SRP, 2025 LAC SRP, 2030 LAL SRP

Lakers trade one oft-injured player for another oft-injured player that is more impactful when healthy.

Portland cashes in on one of their many centers to the tune of three second round picks. Vando may be able to be flipped for some value down the line if he gets healthy and performs on the court.

No thanks from POR.

Hoping for a return that does not include a bad contract, or includes FRP if it does.

You aren't getting a good 1st for RW3

He has played 41 games the last 2 years and 10 games this year

Vando and 2-3 2nds is more than fair. Probably a big overpay from us

Vando plays a more valuable position and is a very good wing defender

The issue with him is also obviously his health

If you want Zeke Naji with 3 years+1 and Saric who was a PO next year and a Denver 1st, I can see something like that?

Maybe they even try and ask for a future 2nd tbh

RW3 can be game changer, but a huge health risk who has another year

nzahir wrote:

JRoy wrote:

dcstanley wrote:LAL in: Robert Williams
POR in: Jarred Vanderbilt, Max Lewis, 2025 LAL SRP, 2025 LAC SRP, 2030 LAL SRP

Lakers trade one oft-injured player for another oft-injured player that is more impactful when healthy.

Portland cashes in on one of their many centers to the tune of three second round picks. Vando may be able to be flipped for some value down the line if he gets healthy and performs on the court.

No thanks from POR.

Hoping for a return that does not include a bad contract, or includes FRP if it does.

You aren't getting a good 1st for RW3

He has played 41 games the last 2 years and 10 games this year

Vando and 2-3 2nds is more than fair. Probably a big overpay from us

Vando plays a more valuable position and is a very good wing defender

The issue with him is also obviously his health

If you want Zeke Naji with 3 years+1 and Saric who was a PO next year and a Denver 1st, I can see something like that?

Maybe they even try and ask for a future 2nd tbh

RW3 can be game changer, but a huge health risk who has another year

I never said a good FRP.

LAL can keep Vando and various SRP.

nzahir wrote:

JRoy wrote:

dcstanley wrote:LAL in: Robert Williams
POR in: Jarred Vanderbilt, Max Lewis, 2025 LAL SRP, 2025 LAC SRP, 2030 LAL SRP

Lakers trade one oft-injured player for another oft-injured player that is more impactful when healthy.

Portland cashes in on one of their many centers to the tune of three second round picks. Vando may be able to be flipped for some value down the line if he gets healthy and performs on the court.

No thanks from POR.

Hoping for a return that does not include a bad contract, or includes FRP if it does.

You aren't getting a good 1st for RW3

He has played 41 games the last 2 years and 10 games this year

Vando and 2-3 2nds is more than fair. Probably a big overpay from us

Vando plays a more valuable position and is a very good wing defender

The issue with him is also obviously his health

If you want Zeke Naji with 3 years+1 and Saric who was a PO next year and a Denver 1st, I can see something like that?

Maybe they even try and ask for a future 2nd tbh

RW3 can be game changer, but a huge health risk who has another year

Zeke is a straight negative. DEN will have to pay to move him or find an equally bad contract but different fit.

Maybe Zeke for Vando and leave POR out of it.

Vando and RW3 are similar to me in that both are impactful when healthy but no one wants to gamble on the health part.

JRoy wrote:

nzahir wrote:

JRoy wrote:
No thanks from POR.

Hoping for a return that does not include a bad contract, or includes FRP if it does.

You aren't getting a good 1st for RW3

He has played 41 games the last 2 years and 10 games this year

Vando and 2-3 2nds is more than fair. Probably a big overpay from us

Vando plays a more valuable position and is a very good wing defender

The issue with him is also obviously his health

If you want Zeke Naji with 3 years+1 and Saric who was a PO next year and a Denver 1st, I can see something like that?

Maybe they even try and ask for a future 2nd tbh

RW3 can be game changer, but a huge health risk who has another year

Zeke is a straight negative. DEN will have to pay to move him or find an equally bad contract but different fit.

Maybe Zeke for Vando and leave POR out of it.

I like zeke for vanderbilt way more than either of them coming to portland... as for seconds they can be bought for cash way less cash than it would be to pay vanderbilt 4 long years

If Portland had done more with our 2 good second rounders last draft maybe but we just traded them for future seconds so a bunch of second rounders isn't a huge point of emphasis. I don't hate Vanderbilt as a reclamation project but might prefer an expiring, even if it comes with less second rounders.

The focus has to be on moving Ant, Grant and maybe Ayton though. Maybe RW3 helps with that, maybe not, but want to see how that plays out first. If 3 second rounders helps with that then maybe something like this is on the table.


(man going against Davis and a healthy Williams would be a nightmare for many teams)

I’m with JRoy here…Time Lord is way more impactful than Vando, if equally unreliable …I, for one, don’t get this concept that srps are of significant value- unless they’re just cherry on top of cap relief…which this doesn’t offer.

There are many more trade-negative posters here than JRoy…who has been trying to jettison Simons to ORL for years

I know it’s just LAL fans nature to presume the rest of the league is their farm system, but I think that ship has sailed years ago.

Think there’s a fair bit of underrating of Vando’s impact before injury in here

That said, he really has no value to any other team, we just have to ride it out with him and get him healthy ASAP

JRoy wrote:

dcstanley wrote:LAL in: Robert Williams
POR in: Jarred Vanderbilt, Max Lewis, 2025 LAL SRP, 2025 LAC SRP, 2030 LAL SRP

Lakers trade one oft-injured player for another oft-injured player that is more impactful when healthy.

Portland cashes in on one of their many centers to the tune of three second round picks. Vando may be able to be flipped for some value down the line if he gets healthy and performs on the court.

No thanks from POR.

Hoping for a return that does not include a bad contract, or includes FRP if it does.

Iḿ skeptical about the Blazers landing a FRP for RWIII, but for sure they could get 2/3 SRPs with expirinig filler. They don't have to take a bad contract.

JRoy wrote:No thanks from POR.

Hoping for a return that does not include a bad contract, or includes FRP if it does.

Just stop. Nobody is bailing you out of RW3's contract nor is anyone giving you a FRP for him. He's played in 51 games over the last 2.5 seasons. He's closer to being a toxic contract than being an asset. A Vanderbilt for RW3 swap is pretty much what you'd expect to get. Lakers certainly aren't adding additional assets to turn Vanderbilt into RW3. I'm not even sure I'd do Vando straight up for him.

Karmaloop wrote:

JRoy wrote:No thanks from POR.

Hoping for a return that does not include a bad contract, or includes FRP if it does.

Just stop. Nobody is bailing you out of RW3's contract nor is anyone giving you a FRP for him. He's played in 51 games over the last 2.5 seasons. He's closer to being a toxic contract than being an asset. A Vanderbilt for RW3 swap is pretty much what you'd expect to get. Lakers certainly aren't adding additional assets to turn Vanderbilt into RW3. I'm not even sure I'd do Vando straight up for him.

Are you referring to RWIII as a "toxic contract?" Here's what he has left:

2025
$12,428,571

2026
$13,285,713

2027
$0

Karmaloop wrote:

JRoy wrote:No thanks from POR.

Hoping for a return that does not include a bad contract, or includes FRP if it does.

Just stop. Nobody is bailing you out of RW3's contract nor is anyone giving you a FRP for him. He's played in 51 games over the last 2.5 seasons. He's closer to being a toxic contract than being an asset. A Vanderbilt for RW3 swap is pretty much what you'd expect to get. Lakers certainly aren't adding additional assets to turn Vanderbilt into RW3. I'm not even sure I'd do Vando straight up for him.

Zero interest, not taking a lesser player with injury issues of his own and zero offense.

No thanks.

Karmaloop wrote:

JRoy wrote:No thanks from POR.

Hoping for a return that does not include a bad contract, or includes FRP if it does.

Just stop. Nobody is bailing you out of RW3's contract nor is anyone giving you a FRP for him. He's played in 51 games over the last 2.5 seasons. He's closer to being a toxic contract than being an asset. A Vanderbilt for RW3 swap is pretty much what you'd expect to get. Lakers certainly aren't adding additional assets to turn Vanderbilt into RW3. I'm not even sure I'd do Vando straight up for him.

I doubt we get a 1st round pick for him, but saying a worse player on a worse contract should be the expectation seems silly to me.

The Blazers probably wouldn't do the OP deal because of the extra two years on Vanderbilt's contract. I do think, however, that a second rounder (or two or three) is a far more realistic return than a first round pick. If there was a trade where the Blazers shed some money off Timelord's deal and got a second round pick or two, that represents considerable savings vs. keeping him and buying those same second round picks on draft night. Mostly, I'd move Williams because he's either not playing but taking up a roster spot that could go to a G-League tryout, or he's playing -- too well -- and risking the tank. We obviously like him in Portland, but he's wasted on this roster at this time.

Karmaloop wrote:

JRoy wrote:No thanks from POR.

Hoping for a return that does not include a bad contract, or includes FRP if it does.

Just stop. Nobody is bailing you out of RW3's contract nor is anyone giving you a FRP for him. He's played in 51 games over the last 2.5 seasons. He's closer to being a toxic contract than being an asset. A Vanderbilt for RW3 swap is pretty much what you'd expect to get. Lakers certainly aren't adding additional assets to turn Vanderbilt into RW3. I'm not even sure I'd do Vando straight up for him.

why would one expect to get a player who has had lingering foot injuries and 4 years of BAD contract... rw3 is VASTLY better on both sides of the ball

does rw3 have a history of injuries? yes but

vanderbilt got a lingering foot injury and WHILE INJURED also then hurt his ankle.... and then like the virgin mary of basketball got a knee injury not even near a basketball court known from this point on "the immaculate knee injury" .

Just stop. Nobody is bailing you out of vanderbilts contract again there are 4 more years of this so umm no thanks homie we're cool with the much better healthier player tho not a beacon of health he has has a PER of 24.7 this year and an efg% of 75 meaning HE is playing