Getting Cam Johnson to the Warriors without Kuminga

[Warriors Analyst]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/8823152

Warriors trade:

Brandin Podziemski
Kyle Anderson
Gary Payton II
Gui Santos
2025 GSW First
2027 GSW First

Nets trade:

Cam Johnson

I assume the Nets would have to cut or buyout some players, but I think the outlines of this deal could make sense. Podziemski is having a down year, but he would profile well next to Cam Thomas. Kyle Anderson is a useful vet in the locker room and on the court. Gary Payton II is an expiring contract or a buyout option and the Nets get two picks. I personally would be happy to add more picks on the Warriors' behalf. I imagine some Nets fans would also be happy about not having to pay Kuminga a big RFA offer after a hypothetical Cam Johnson trade.

The benefit for the Warriors is obvious: they increase their spacing with a playoff-ready wing who can defend without giving up Kuminga. Joe Lacob is notably enamored with Kuminga and now they get a chance to keep him while improving their roster.

[gswhoops]

Man I must have missed the moment when Cam Johnson turned into KD with the way people on this board value him.

[Warriors Analyst]

Man I must have missed the moment when Cam Johnson turned into KD with the way people on this board value him.

He's a proven 3+D wing who would be pushed down to a third/fourth option on the Warriors. His shooting ability would help Kuminga and Schroder and Steph get into the paint. His defensive ability would let the Warriors run out jumbo wing lineups without compromising on spacing. He's a very good fit for the Warriors and I simply don't value future picks all that much if Joe Lacob is in the war room.

[NW]

Nets may get two firsts for Cam Johnson-if so imagine that they’re protected to high hell-but I doubt it’ll be from GS.

Dubs need a stretch 5 that can allow them to get away with the Dray/Kuminga/Wiggins lineup and can cut down on Draymond’s minutes at center. Johnson isn’t that

[jayjaysee]

I think two firsts is fine, Podz isn’t needed.

Hard to fit Cam in with his incentives though. Even though they’re “unlikely” they seem pretty likely this year, and they count against the apron either way. Which means GSW is mostly out unless it’s almost all of their midsized deals

[Warriors Analyst]

Nets may get two firsts for Cam Johnson-if so imagine that they’re protected to high hell-but I doubt it’ll be from GS.

Dubs need a stretch 5 that can allow them to get away with the Dray/Kuminga/Wiggins lineup and can cut down on Draymond’s minutes at center. Johnson isn’t that

This trade improves the Warriors' spacing and more broadly allows them to cut down on Draymond's minutes in totality. I still want Dray at the center in crunch time. Dray getting more rest allows him to be fresh come crunch time. I think a Cam Johnson trade allows the Warriors to be sturdy defensively on the wing in non-Dray minutes and allows them to play TJD and Loon more alongside shooters.

[Mavrelous]

The 27 pick should be protected, the 25 should be top 4 protected, just in case GSW wins the lottery.
I'd send Anderson to the Clippers for PJT, Clippers duck tax and add forward depth, Nets gets an expiring.

[Skybox]

I think the OP is too much for the mythology of Cam, the 3&D superstar. He's a very good shooter and a pretty good player overall. That package of assets (particularly two frps AND Podz) should bring back Cam + Olynyk (separately, of course). Olynyk would be a really nice addition...smart guy, shoots, great ball mover - I'd love him in ORL, but he makes a lot of sense for GSW too and is clearly available.

[gswhoops]

I think the OP is too much for the mythology of Cam, the 3&D superstar. He's a very good shooter and a pretty good player overall. That package of assets (particularly two frps AND Podz) should bring back Cam + Olynyk (separately, of course). Olynyk would be a really nice addition...smart guy, shoots, great ball mover - I'd love him in ORL, but he makes a lot of sense for GSW too and is clearly available.

Exactly. Cam is what he is - a very good (but not elite) shooter, solid defender, solid size for the 3/4 spot. Not a good rebounder for his size, not a defensive "stopper" by any means, and not a guy who can create his own shot. His PPG numbers are inflated because he's playing on a tanking Brooklyn team but put him on a team that's playing for something and he's a 13-15 ppg guy. Basically, a solid starter who spaces the floor and doesn't get targeted on D. He should ideally be a 4th option on a contender or maybe a 3rd option on a good but not great team.

That's not the kind of player who returns a valuable prospect plus 2 first round picks.

[Snakebites]

Cam is a nice player. But the Nets won’t get this much for him just because it’s their asking price.

[JKiddy]

It 10 guys want a great woman and she asked to for 2 drinks on a date. What do you think will happen?

[cpower]

it makes no sense..what are you going to do with Kuminga's 35M contract next year?

[NW]

It 10 guys want a great woman and she asked to for 2 drinks on a date. What do you think will happen?

If those two drinks are valued very highly, who knows? Maybe one guy desperately overpays - or they look to the other women because, like Cam, the one woman ain’t the only one in the room, nor the prettiest.

Just as likely she goes home alone to Brooklyn as it is anyone takes her out

[gswhoops]

It 10 guys want a great woman and she asked to for 2 drinks on a date. What do you think will happen?

If I post a used car on Craigslist for $50,000 and I get 10 messages offering me $15,000, does that mean someone is going to pay $50,000 or that my expectations are unrealistic?

[xdrta+]

It's seems like hard caps, incentives, and salaries for replacing players don't matter.

[jbk1234]

The Nets do this and throw a max offer to Kuminga next summer anyway. Just trade Kuminga.

[ecuhus1981]

This is a good offer, but GSW would not incentive this much IMO. Honestly, I'm not impressed by Kuminga, even IF the Dubs were willing to include him.

[DonaldSanders]

Too much for Cam. The trade also wouldn't work with this year's cap as the Warriors would have to sign min contracts to fill out the roster.

I don't get going for Cam if you are keeping Kuminga... what is the lineup?

I'd rather target a good SG if we're trading picks, that's the weakest position. Someone who can at least do 3&D, maybe you can pry NAW from MIN for less.

[wemby]

I agree, I like Cam Johnson but the proposed packages for him (2 firsts + good prospects) seem quite steep a price. Probably settles for a bit less.

[NW]

Too much for Cam. The trade also wouldn't work with this year's cap as the Warriors would have to sign min contracts to fill out the roster.

I don't get going for Cam if you are keeping Kuminga... what is the lineup?

I'd rather target a good SG if we're trading picks, that's the weakest position. Someone who can at least do 3&D, maybe you can pry NAW from MIN for less.

In theory. Dray/Kuminga/Cam/Wiggins/Steph. Steph surrounded by wings that can defend and score. That has been a working formula in the past. This version is questionable from a ballhandling/take them off the dribble pov. Spaces out though, which helps JK.

Intrigued by Cam on GS, just a matter of price