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How much value should the Kings add to make the following deal balanced?

Kevin Huerter
Colby Jones
Orlando Robinson

For

Robert Williams III
Matisse Thybulle
Rayan Rupert

For reference, the Kings have the following picks available to include in a trade…

2027 SAC 1st (only if the 2025 1st conveys to ATL)
2028 SAC 1st
2029 SAC 1st
2029 SAC 2nd
2030 SAC 1st
2031 SAC/SAS 1st (the less favorable of the two)


The Blazers would do this to save some money while also getting some long term asset(s) to aid in their rebuild.

The Kings would do this to upgrade their backup C and backup wing spots who can help improve their defense.

Subtract Rupert and Robinson add FRP from SAC

JRoy wrote:Subtract Rupert and Robinson add FRP from SAC

That trade would be illegal.

bpcox05 wrote:

JRoy wrote:Subtract Rupert and Robinson add FRP from SAC

That trade would be illegal.

Ah.

Rupert not a throw in.

bpcox05 wrote:

JRoy wrote:Subtract Rupert and Robinson add FRP from SAC

That trade would be illegal.

Still legal according to Spotrac if you just remove Rupert but keep Robinson in the trade.

A first feels like too much. Seconds aren’t enticing enough. Something else may need to go to Sacramento to balance it more. Maybe like 2 2nds to Kings with a protected 1st to Portland.

Im not giving a 1st in any circumstance for Thybulle and Rob Williams. I get the idea, a defensive wing and a defensive rim protecting big. But rob can't stay healthy and thybulles offense is so horrible he can't play.

Huerter is a bad contract and the other guys are fodder, not interested without FRP.

JRoy wrote:Huerter is a bad contract and the other guys are fodder, not interested without FRP.

You’re not getting a first for them zero chance

Jkam31 wrote:

JRoy wrote:Huerter is a bad contract and the other guys are fodder, not interested without FRP.

You’re not getting a first for them zero chance

Fair enough, we will look elsewhere.

Lmao somehow an injury prone Robert Williams and injured Matisse Thybulle is worth Huerter, Jones, and a FRP to some people.

Sactown33 wrote:Lmao somehow an injury prone Robert Williams and injured Matisse Thybulle is worth Huerter, Jones, and a FRP to some people.

You’re welcome to shop your guys for the best deal,

Expiring and SRPs for Thybulle and Williams, or bad contract (Huerter) and FRP.

I guess we will see if\when RW3 is traded but there has been some chatter that they have already been offered a protected 1st for him

Trying to sell that POR should be happy with marginal (Huerter) or useless (Jones\Robinson) players for (2) vet players who can be major (RW3) or minor (Thybulle) difference makers to a playoff team & asking POR to throw in a young (Rupert\20) improving prospect in addition strains credibility

JRoy wrote:

Jkam31 wrote:

JRoy wrote:Huerter is a bad contract and the other guys are fodder, not interested without FRP.

You’re not getting a first for them zero chance

Fair enough, we will look elsewhere.

I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I will point out in the current NBA economic climate, teams have stopped giving up 1sts for players of this caliber, and even for fifth starters. Teams seem to be getting multiple seconds for them though.

shrink wrote:

JRoy wrote:

Jkam31 wrote:You’re not getting a first for them zero chance

Fair enough, we will look elsewhere.

I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I will point out in the current NBA economic climate, teams have stopped giving up 1sts for players of this caliber, and even for fifth starters. Teams seem to be getting multiple seconds for them though.

POR should be willing to take SRP without attached bad contracts.

shrink wrote:

JRoy wrote:

Jkam31 wrote:You’re not getting a first for them zero chance

Fair enough, we will look elsewhere.

I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I will point out in the current NBA economic climate, teams have stopped giving up 1sts for players of this caliber, and even for fifth starters. Teams seem to be getting multiple seconds for them though.

If you are referring to the DFS\LAL deal, BRK was offered a 1st and b/c of their situation, (4) 1st’s already in 25’& a preference for not taking any non expiring deals back in return, chose the LAL deal instead

This narrative that teams are not offering 1st’s for players is not true, and in no world was the well traveled Schroeder worth a 1st to begin with

Walton1one wrote:

shrink wrote:

JRoy wrote:Fair enough, we will look elsewhere.

I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I will point out in the current NBA economic climate, teams have stopped giving up 1sts for players of this caliber, and even for fifth starters. Teams seem to be getting multiple seconds for them though.

If you are referring to the DFS\LAL deal, BRK was offered a 1st and b/c of their situation, (4) 1st’s already in 25’& a preference for not taking any non expiring deals back in return, chose the LAL deal instead

This narrative that teams are not offering 1st’s for players is not true, and in no world was the well traveled Schroeder worth a 1st to begin with

Can you tell me when the last completed trade was done when players of this caliber actually brought back 1st?

I’m not saying you guys have to take this deal. Just that you might be over-estimating the market if you think other teams are going to offer 1sts these days. These guys aren’t even DFS.

JRoy wrote:

bpcox05 wrote:

JRoy wrote:Subtract Rupert and Robinson add FRP from SAC

That trade would be illegal.

Ah.

Rupert not a throw in.

JRoy wrote:Huerter is a bad contract and the other guys are fodder, not interested without FRP.

How is Colby Jones “fodder” but then Rupert is “not a throw in?”

You may remember that both were drafted in the same draft yet Jones went 9 picks ahead of Rupert. And I haven’t seen anything over the last 1.5 seasons to have altered that evaluation of value, but to each their own I guess.

Myth wrote:

bpcox05 wrote:

JRoy wrote:Subtract Rupert and Robinson add FRP from SAC

That trade would be illegal.

Still legal according to Spotrac if you just remove Rupert but keep Robinson in the trade.

A first feels like too much. Seconds aren’t enticing enough. Something else may need to go to Sacramento to balance it more. Maybe like 2 2nds to Kings with a protected 1st to Portland.

Yeah, that trade is legal. Would POR cut Walker then to make room for the extra player coming in?

Agree that a 1st feels like too much. I was thinking if the Kings add a 2nd and a pick swap that it would balance it out.

bpcox05 wrote:

JRoy wrote:

bpcox05 wrote:That trade would be illegal.

Ah.

Rupert not a throw in.

I mean Colby Jones isn’t either so to each their own.

Fair enough, haven’t seen him play.

Protected swap is the balancer imo