GSW Vucci trade consolidation

[squarepimpin]

GSW receives: Vuc, SF/SG Dalen Terry, SG/SF Chris Durarte
Sends out: Looney, GP2, SlowMo, Podziemski + a top 6 protected FRP in the future

Chicago get FRP, 17 Mill in salary expirings, and
flippable veterans and a fiesty young guard who was 1st team all rookie to say goodbye to Vuc and two other players that rarely play on a so so team.

I am a Dubs fan so I’ll speak from my perspective. Dubs need a big, and one that might add a new element by stretching the floor creates different wrinkle for our offense.

Podz offense will rebound he is a good young player … but you know that the dubs always like CD in that draft and Dalen Terry Arizona product is another big wing .. this trade should prevent Kerr from using the super small line ups.

Bulls appear they wanna tank and blow it up. GSW can offer good young prospect, FRP, expiring solid vets, incl. reflip prospects at an even money swap. Seems plausible.


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[uraverage]

The value seems off to me. I don't think Vuc and 2 players that barely play on a so so team worth a top 6 protected pick and the other players. Maybe lotto protected... Even then I'm not sure. (TBH not close enough to either team so I could be off.)

[Crazy-Canuck]

No one is going to give a top 6 protected pick for vuc. This is an easy pass for the Warriors.

[giberish]

I'm far from certain that the Warriors defense can withstand Vuc. I'm not sure he's worth more than EC filler, much less adding in Podz and a 1st.

[squarepimpin]

Values have been down for players so far this year, but I think a protected 1st is warranted… lotto protected sounds fine. As far as podz is concerned he is the only sweetener That is expendable IMO. Interestingly both Terry and Durarte shoot better from the 3 and the floor in general. Our scoring droughts were the issue during the losing streak. Vuc can score and space the floor, plus be big against the clippers and Denver.


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[oldncreaky]

I'm far from certain that the Warriors defense can withstand Vuc. I'm not sure he's worth more than EC filler, much less adding in Podz and a 1st.

Not a fan of either GSW or CHI . . .

If I consider Vucevic/Terry/Duarte compared to Looney/GP2/SlowMo/Podz -- ignoring injury status and team fit, I am not sure which package I'd consider more valuable, and I don't have the difference as a lightly protected FRP

[ChettheJet]

Yeah the Bulls want to move Vucevic, Terry has never filled out his game and Duarte has fewer minutes than me this year.

While Looney is a replacement center Payton and Anderson ,Slo Mo with another year is doubly worthless to a tanking team. They both might as well stay home. Don't say they can trade them unless you can show where they're going Podziemski gets no more consideration than Phillip and Buzelis off the bench so the Bulls don't see the value you do. I don't think how far out the pick is matters just so the Bulls get it and it doesn't turn into the pumpkin they have in the PORT pick. GSW are getting a useful starter for2 years, right in their contender window, you have to pay for that.

[NW]

Yeah the Bulls want to move Vucevic, Terry has never filled out his game and Duarte has fewer minutes than me this year.

While Looney is a replacement center Payton and Anderson ,Slo Mo with another year is doubly worthless to a tanking team. They both might as well stay home. Don't say they can trade them unless you can show where they're going Podziemski gets no more consideration than Phillip and Buzelis off the bench so the Bulls don't see the value you do. I don't think how far out the pick is matters just so the Bulls get it and it doesn't turn into the pumpkin they have in the PORT pick. GSW are getting a useful starter for2 years, right in their contender window, you have to pay for that.

All indications are that price is a second rounder or two in the new CBA. If the Bulls can do better, shake their hands, wish them well and on to the next.

IMO, the deal is Loon/GP2/Hield/2nd(s?) for Vuc and Duarte maybe? I know the GS FO was high on Duarte in the draft and the Pacers took him right before the pick that became Moses Moody. Not sure what happened since. Is it health issues why he doesn’t get minutes in Chicago or just a roster numbers game?

[wemby]

Overpay by the Warriors, I think it's an overpay even if you take out the pick.

[squarepimpin]

Overpay by the Warriors, I think it's an overpay even if you take out the pick.

So in your opinion Vuc a 20/10 33 minute a game player will only fetch whatever the warriors can put together for salary matching Loon + GP2 and whatever + 2nds - if you would do the deal at all … ok


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[NW]

Overpay by the Warriors, I think it's an overpay even if you take out the pick.

So in your opinion Vuc a 20/10 33 minute a game player will only fetch whatever the warriors can put together for salary matching Loon + GP2 and whatever + 2nds - if you would do the deal at all … ok


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He ain’t the only one saying it:

“Nikola Vucevic’s $20 million salary, with a third and final season to go at $21.5 million in 2025-26, is far more palatable for teams to absorb. One GM told me he would put the two-time All-Star’s likely price point in a trade at two second-round picks,” Fischer wrote this week.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2024/11/29/all-takes-nikola-vucevic/

[jayjaysee]

I think GSW might be the team to pay a first for Vuc.

But it shouldn’t have Podz thrown in. And should be well protected.

[gswhoops]

I think GSW might be the team to pay a first for Vuc.

But it shouldn’t have Podz thrown in. And should be well protected.

Yeah, I think if all it took were a couple seconds and filler some team probably would have rolled the dice by now.

A lotto-protected 2025 1st that turns into 2 2nds if it doesn't convey this year seems like a reasonable middle ground

[NW]

I think GSW might be the team to pay a first for Vuc.

But it shouldn’t have Podz thrown in. And should be well protected.

Nah, see if someone else does. No indication there’s anyone else willing to, so why bid against yourself?

[Lenneth]

Overpay by the Warriors, I think it's an overpay even if you take out the pick.

So in your opinion Vuc a 20/10 33 minute a game player will only fetch whatever the warriors can put together for salary matching Loon + GP2 and whatever + 2nds - if you would do the deal at all … ok


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https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278534/Bulls-Likely-Willing-To-Take-2nd-Rounders-Back-In-Trade-Of-Nikola-Vucevic

About a week ago, there was a rumor that Buils lowered the demand to multiple 2nd rounders, because there aren't getting a lot of offers on Vuc, because he generally put empty stats. And, if you look at Bulls trade board, they aren't really surprised by it. Warriors prioritize their center to defend, block, and rebound first and then do other stuff like scoring. Vuc is regarded as one of the worst defensive center, and can't block shot. His fit with Warriors would be pretty terrible, and our defense might collapse with him as a center (Bulls defense rating with Vuc: 21st, 12th, 19th, 20th, 20th). I can see us getting Vuc if his price is pretty cheap, but not for First rounder + Podz. That would be a massive overpay at this point.

[squarepimpin]

If you answer the thread … and your a dubs fan in particular are you in favor of a Vic trade in general - off the back it will cost $20 mill in salary 1. Loon, GP2, + + moody will not work.


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[giberish]

If you answer the thread … and your a dubs fan in particular are you in favor of a Vic trade in general - off the back it will cost $20 mill in salary 1. Loon, GP2, + + moody will not work.


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I was iffy when the price was Melton + Looney + 2nds. With less convenient salary matching now I'm not interested.

[NW]

If you answer the thread … and your a dubs fan in particular are you in favor of a Vic trade in general - off the back it will cost $20 mill in salary 1. Loon, GP2, + + moody will not work.


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You add Hield or SloMo, Bulls add some of their smaller deals like Torrey Craig and/or Chris Duarte

[DonaldSanders]

So in your opinion Vuc a 20/10 33 minute a game player will only fetch whatever the warriors can put together for salary matching Loon + GP2 and whatever + 2nds - if you would do the deal at all … ok

The issue is that Vuc is on a heater right now with a 44% 3P shot -- last season he was a 29% 3P shooter on a full year. Career he is 34%, and his defense isn't particular good. If the Warriors just want him as a spacer it's likely you are getting the career 3P% guy, not the heater guy for the remainder of the contract. Throw in his age and I can't see any team even considering a 1st. This is a guy the Bulls just wanted to salary dump last season.

[Chi town]

I think GSW might be the team to pay a first for Vuc.

But it shouldn’t have Podz thrown in. And should be well protected.

That SloMo contract is awful.

No way they get Vuc without a 1st with that contract.