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Butler to ATL
Posted: Mon Jan 6, 2025 2:47 am
by Toine85
Miami trades:
Jimmy Butler
Josh Richardson
Alec Burks
Atlanta trades:
Clint Capela
Bogdan Bogdanović
Larry Nance
2025 LAL 1st rounder (lotto protected)
Why for Atlanta?
Get Trae that dog on that team who can challenge them to up their game. Playoff Jimmy and playoff Trae may be a scary combo for any team.
Why for Miami?
Get a first rounder and some frontcourt help: Capela can slide into the starting C role while Ware continues to develop and Nance can backup Bam (who slides to PF) when he comes back from hand surgery in a few weeks. Bogie can slide into the SF spot.
Re: Butler to ATL
Posted: Mon Jan 6, 2025 2:49 am
by BBallFreak
Nope. Waaaaaaay short on value
Re: Butler to ATL
Posted: Mon Jan 6, 2025 2:57 am
by raleigh
Wow, that's great value for Miami. Probably too good.
Re: Butler to ATL
Posted: Mon Jan 6, 2025 3:03 am
by SkyHook
Swap out Capela for Hunter and there might be a conversation.
Re: Butler to ATL
Posted: Mon Jan 6, 2025 3:11 am
by UnbelievablyRAW
How about:
Miami trades
Jimmy Butler
Josh Richardson
Alec Burks
Atlanta trades
Deandre Hunter
Clint Capela
Kobe Bufkin
SAC 2025 FRP (protected 1-12)
Atl 2028 FRP swap
Re: Butler to ATL
Posted: Mon Jan 6, 2025 3:15 am
by Ell Curry
raleigh wrote:Wow, that's great value for Miami. Probably too good.
BBallFreak wrote:Nope. Waaaaaaay short on value
Truly do love the board at times like this.
This puts Atlanta way into the tax next year. Butler does make some sense for them, but I think they're more likely to move Bogdanovic and keep Capela, or let Capela go and sign a non-tax MLE 5 (Nance JR they can bring back, or Bobby Portis) and just squeeze under the tax next year in either case.
Re: Butler to ATL
Posted: Mon Jan 6, 2025 4:03 am
by jayjaysee
You can make it to keep ATL under the tax this year, pretty easily.
And if you add lottery protection to LAL’s first, what happens if LAL misses the playoffs?
I think it should be Hunter/Bogdan/Nance based (with whatever value you think is best).. Third team is easy to tie in.
The finished roster needs Capela more than either Bogdan or Hunter. And Miami probably values the two wings more than Capela.
Re: Butler to ATL
Posted: Mon Jan 6, 2025 7:44 am
by LightTheBeam
jayjaysee wrote:You can make it to keep ATL under the tax this year, pretty easily.
And if you add lottery protection to LAL’s first, what happens if LAL misses the playoffs?
I think it should be Hunter/Bogdan/Nance based (with whatever value you think is best).. Third team is easy to tie in.
The finished roster needs Capela more than either Bogdan or Hunter. And Miami probably values the two wings more than Capela.
Spot on. If Atlanta is going with butler wouldn't they want to keep capela?
Trae - Dyson - Butler - Johnson - capela
Matthews - risacher - OO
Seems pretty solid. Scary defensive wing duo
Re: Butler to ATL
Posted: Mon Jan 6, 2025 8:10 am
by CP War Hawks
I'm interested in Jimmy Buckets not Butler.
Re: Butler to ATL
Posted: Mon Jan 6, 2025 1:22 pm
by dms269
I don't see Atlanta giving up Capela with how thin they are at center. I am also not sure if bringing in Butler on what is likely a rental is worth it for Atlanta. I don't see them giving him what he is going to want salary wise. It is take 1 step forward this season but a massive one back next.
Re: Butler to ATL
Posted: Mon Jan 6, 2025 2:20 pm
by dcstanley
jayjaysee wrote:You can make it to keep ATL under the tax this year, pretty easily.
And if you add lottery protection to LAL’s first, what happens if LAL misses the playoffs?
I think it should be Hunter/Bogdan/Nance based (with whatever value you think is best).. Third team is easy to tie in.
The finished roster needs Capela more than either Bogdan or Hunter. And Miami probably values the two wings more than Capela.
Though their pick is involved, the Lakers do make sense as a third team:
ATL in: Butler, JHS, Reddish
MIA in: Bogdanovic, Nance, Rui, LAL 2025 FRP, LAL 2029 FRP
LAL in: Hunter
Lakers would be keen to turn Rui into Hunter
Re: Butler to ATL
Posted: Mon Jan 6, 2025 11:27 pm
by Phunkabilly
CP War Hawks wrote:I'm interested in Jimmy Buckets not Butler.
Seconded