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Warriors needs a vet big who can stretch the floor, AND ideally duck the tax.

Orlando needs a playoff ready big since Mo Wagner is out.

Toronto needs to accumulate youth/assets in their rebuild.



GSW in: Kelly Olynyk, Davion Mitchell, ‘25 ORL 2nd, ‘25 POR 2nd
GSW out: ‘25 GSW top 18 protected 1st, Kevon Looney, Gary Payton, Kyle Anderson


ORL in: Kevon Looney
ORL out: Jett Howard, ‘25 ORL 2nd


TOR in: ‘25 GSW (top 18 protected) 1st, Gary Payton, Kyle Anderson, Jett Howard
TOR out: Kelly Olynyk, Davion Mitchell, ‘25 POR 2nd



No one gives up their core, and everyone gets something their team needs. Feedback and amendments welcome!

Warriors aren't giving up a pick (even protected) for Kelly Olynyk's corpse and davion mitchell.
Trading a pick limits their ability to make bigger moves that they likely need to extend Curry's prime.

Raptors are getting the 2 best assets while giving up nothing of value.

Jadoogar wrote:Warriors aren't giving up a pick (even protected) for Kelly Olynyk's corpse and davion mitchell.
Trading a pick limits their ability to make bigger moves that they likely need to extend Curry's prime.

Raptors are getting the 2 best assets while giving up nothing of value.

Your framing is incorrect.

If GSW get back the POR 2nd, it’s like #35. They’d also get back the ORL 2nd in the ‘25 draft. They also duck the tax, and replace GPs defense with Davion Mitchell. And Olynyk is capable as a backup stretch big.

Jett Howard has shown nothing so far, and the only reason he’s here is to make salaries match.

Jadoogar wrote:Warriors aren't giving up a pick (even protected) for Kelly Olynyk's corpse and davion mitchell.
Trading a pick limits their ability to make bigger moves that they likely need to extend Curry's prime.

Raptors are getting the 2 best assets while giving up nothing of value.

jett's not really an asset

Warriors aren’t giving a first for Vuc, much less a lesser version in Olnyk. The days of handing out firsts, highly protected or not, for role guys are fading imo

I think this could be worth it right before the trade deadline if Kelly continues getting right? Like very last call though.

The pick could be lottery protected instead at that point, but would be a one year shot only. If it doesn’t convey, you could send the Portland 2nd back to Toronto.. which would maybe be the first time that kind of thing was done?

Don’t think Orlando does their part though. And if they do, GSW can do better than Kelly for a first.

The center market is really watered down this year.

Orlando would have no interest in this trade. Wagner played a hybrid PF/C role off the bench and usually was paired with a center so he could stretch the floor.

Looney doesn’t fit and would be the 4th big off the bench (Isaac currently plays some spot minutes at the 5).

I would just cut GSW out and target Olynk if I was Orlando (way better fit than Looney).

MessiahUjiri wrote:Warriors needs a vet big who can stretch the floor, AND ideally duck the tax.

Orlando needs a playoff ready big since Mo Wagner is out.

Toronto needs to accumulate youth/assets in their rebuild.



GSW in: Kelly Olynyk, Davion Mitchell, ‘25 ORL 2nd, ‘25 POR 2nd
GSW out: ‘25 GSW top 18 protected 1st, Kevon Looney, Gary Payton, Kyle Anderson


ORL in: Kevon Looney
ORL out: Jett Howard, ‘25 ORL 2nd


TOR in: ‘25 GSW (top 18 protected) 1st, Gary Payton, Kyle Anderson, Jett Howard
TOR out: Kelly Olynyk, Davion Mitchell, ‘25 POR 2nd



No one gives up their core, and everyone gets something their team needs. Feedback and amendments welcome!

I would argue that no needs are filled.

Warriors need a clear upgrade in their starting 5. I am not sold Kelly > Looney and I am LOW on Looney (always have, always will). They just got Schroder, does Mitchell make a difference? Also losing two role players in the process... that's before we even look at the picks.

Magic - one thing they have is centers. Goga, WC, Wagner. This deal does NOTHING for them or their needs. They need their star players to be healthy. That's their only real hole (maybe some guard play, but hard to say when people are banged up).

Raptors - IQ being banged up is a bummer. Looks like lots of games from top talent missed due to injury. Picks are nice, but Raps need seems to be depth. FWIW, I would just sign Fultz to a 10 day and see what happens.

MessiahUjiri wrote:

Jadoogar wrote:Warriors aren't giving up a pick (even protected) for Kelly Olynyk's corpse and davion mitchell.
Trading a pick limits their ability to make bigger moves that they likely need to extend Curry's prime.

Raptors are getting the 2 best assets while giving up nothing of value.

Your framing is incorrect.

If GSW get back the POR 2nd, it’s like #35. They’d also get back the ORL 2nd in the ‘25 draft. They also duck the tax, and replace GPs defense with Davion Mitchell. And Olynyk is capable as a backup stretch big.

Jett Howard has shown nothing so far, and the only reason he’s here is to make salaries match.

Why not just send #35 pick to Raptors and an SRP from Warriors to Raptors?

the Magic could use a bench big that can play if GOga/JI/WCJ get injured, but that could just be a g-league guy. This is not something they really need.

zimpy27 wrote:

MessiahUjiri wrote:

Jadoogar wrote:Warriors aren't giving up a pick (even protected) for Kelly Olynyk's corpse and davion mitchell.
Trading a pick limits their ability to make bigger moves that they likely need to extend Curry's prime.

Raptors are getting the 2 best assets while giving up nothing of value.

Your framing is incorrect.

If GSW get back the POR 2nd, it’s like #35. They’d also get back the ORL 2nd in the ‘25 draft. They also duck the tax, and replace GPs defense with Davion Mitchell. And Olynyk is capable as a backup stretch big.

Jett Howard has shown nothing so far, and the only reason he’s here is to make salaries match.

Why not just send #35 pick to Raptors and an SRP from Warriors to Raptors?

Raptors have the 35 pick. The premise here is to use Kelly, Davion, and #35 to move up in the draft.

Now that I think about it, this is maybe too much to give up to move up.

MessiahUjiri wrote:

Jadoogar wrote:Warriors aren't giving up a pick (even protected) for Kelly Olynyk's corpse and davion mitchell.
Trading a pick limits their ability to make bigger moves that they likely need to extend Curry's prime.

Raptors are getting the 2 best assets while giving up nothing of value.

Your framing is incorrect.

If GSW get back the POR 2nd, it’s like #35. They’d also get back the ORL 2nd in the ‘25 draft. They also duck the tax, and replace GPs defense with Davion Mitchell. And Olynyk is capable as a backup stretch big.

Jett Howard has shown nothing so far, and the only reason he’s here is to make salaries match.

TOR just being charitable?

Looney has no value to ORL…Olynyk is a lot closer to what they’re missing with Moe out. Jett and a srp for Olynyk is more realistic

Toronto has wayyyyyyy too many mediocre guards after this. Jett Howard hasn't really shown that promise from his draft camp. He was supposed to have a silky smooth jumper he hasn't really shown that. IMHO he's not better than Gradey, Barrett, Bruce Brown or Walter to push one of those guys out of the rotation. I only say Brown because Toronto has to showcase him to improve whatever value he has. The logjam of jags is just comical on this team Kyle Anderson, Temple, Brown, Payton plus your stuck paying Anderson $10+ million for the next two years all to potentially move up 7-10 spots and try to redeem Howard is a risky move