Offers for OG Anunoby

[R-DAWG]

I know a lot of people will look at the Knicks record and ask why would they consider moving OG. But when you look at the past month of Knicks basketball they played a cupcake schedule and had to play their top guys huge minutes to win those games. I’m not sure how sustainable this is long term.

The Knicks are built around a very good and well fitting top-3 (although it’s less than ideal that 2/3 are subpar defensive players). The issue is that while the talent is very good, it’s not elite. Brunson is a top-10 player, Towns a top-20 player and I’m not sure Bridges is in the top-30. Typically, you need either a top-3 guy (Denver 23) or a top-10 and top-15 guy (Boston 24) to win with top heavy rosters.

Which brings me to OG Anunoby. As good a perimeter defender as there is in the league with an average to slightly above average offensive game, Anunoby is a guy who can fit on any roster and as a 4th option he’s as good as it gets. The problem the Knicks have is given the cost paid to put the top 3 together, both in terms of dollars and draft picks, NYs roster is too thin.

So, if NY decided to dangle OG to see if a contender sees him as the final piece and would pay a premium, what would the market look like.

Some ideas:

OG to Dallas for P.J. Washington. Daniel Gafford, salary filler, unprotected 1sts in 2025 and 2031. Dallas views Anunoby as the final piece to team with Luka/Kyrie on an otherwise deep roster. NY gets a poor man’s Anunoby in Washington, a league average starting center in Gafford and recoups draft capital and moveable salary to turn this trade into a 3 for 1.

OG to Sacramento for Malik Monk, Keagan Murray, salary filler an unprotected 1st and a protected 1st. One of those picks and salary filler flopped for Walker Kessler or Isiah Stewart. Similar concept but the full trade expanded. Murray is a poor man’s Anunoby, Monk gives NY another guard who can score, a gap on the roster, and the pick (s) are used for center depth. SAC needs spacing and defense around Fox/Sabonis and Anunoby would be a perfect #3 for them.

[MoneyTalks41890]

He would be great for a lot of teams. He’s got a 15 percent kicker, so I’m not sure how many teams can afford him and afford to give up assets for him.

[LarsV8]

In the current CBA, don't think teams can afford to pay a role player 200m.

[jbk1234]

He would be great for a lot of teams. He’s got a 15 percent kicker, so I’m not sure how many teams can afford him and afford to give up assets for him.

He just signed for a max. I'm not sure the kicker matters.

[Scoot McGroot]

He would be great for a lot of teams. He’s got a 15 percent kicker, so I’m not sure how many teams can afford him and afford to give up assets for him.

He just signed for a max. I'm not sure the kicker matters.

He did not. He got 26% of the cap, when he was eligible for 30% on years of service. I believe his full trade kicker would apply, as it would bring him just under his max.

The Knicks would pay the full cash payment of the trade kicker, while the receiving team would have to account for the higher salary number on their books.

Would New York be ok paying a $22m-ish cash bonus right now?

[jbk1234]

I just don't see the Knicks moving him unless it's an overpay and I don't see another team overpaying to get him on a max deal. I think the Kings are your best bet.

[R-DAWG]

In the current CBA, don't think teams can afford to pay a role player 200m.

It’s the issue the Knicks are having. But if a team can acquire him without depleting their depth it’s a different story.

Had the Knicks not gone all in on Bridges, they would be fine having Anunoby at his salary slot.

In the Kings example, they have:

Fox/Ellis/DeRozan/Anunoby/Sabonia
Carter/Huerter/Lyles

[jayjaysee]

I always think of Dallas when OG pops up. But I think NY would try to demand PJ and both firsts. And Dallas should pass. Would do both firsts though without PJ.. Can use Grimes, Prosper? need a third team to make the money work.

Sac feels like the natural team here. Closest to desperate for that role that I see.

SAS feels like a good landing spot though. OG/Sochan/Wemby looks pretty tough. And no tax issues. And extra assets. NY needs a third team involved but feels like a deal there using Keldon/Jones as the salary..

[Mavrelous]

0 interest in PJ + 2 1sts for OG trade, PJ is doing exactly what's needed at the PF, no point in upgrading to OG, Dallas shoild keep their assets for the day after Kyrie drops below all star level player.

[SkyHook]

These are drastic overpays for OG. He's far from earning his contract right now.

[jayjaysee]

I think OG signed on a 25% max (pretty much) is worth closer to what NYK paid to get him..

[Morris_Shatford]

On the contract he is on, I think this comes down to a situation where he is likely far more valuable to the Knicks for what he contributes or potentially can contribute than the return another team would likely provide.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Isn’t OG considered a negative asset just due to injury history and now a near max contract?

These offers seem extremely off.

If Knicks don’t win it all this season and those tax bills start becoming due, there will inevitably be some tax savings moves happening and OG might be in the forefront of that.

[jbk1234]

Isn’t OG considered a negative asset just due to injury history and now a near max contract?

These offers seem extremely off.

If Knicks don’t win it all this season and those tax bills start becoming due, there will inevitably be some tax savings moves happening and OG might be in the forefront of that.

I agree that he's unlikely to return the offers listed in O.P., but suggesting he has negative value is going too far in the other direction. Get him away from Thibs/Nurse/JBB type coaches, load management him properly, and he should have a long career.

[Godaddycurse]

I think OG signed on a 25% max (pretty much) is worth closer to what NYK paid to get him..

with his trade kicker he would be close to a 28-29% contract for the receiving team. he aint fetching more than what NYK paid to get him.

If OP want rotation player(s) isntead of dead expirings in return then he aint fetching more than 1 pick

[jayjaysee]

I think OG signed on a 25% max (pretty much) is worth closer to what NYK paid to get him..

with his trade kicker he would be close to a 28-29% contract for the receiving team. he aint fetching more than what NYK paid to get him.

If OP want rotation player(s) isntead of dead expirings in return then he aint fetching more than 1 pick

Yeah, even though the third team doesn’t pay it you’re right. The tax implications are there.

I do think Dallas offers Gafford and both firsts though? Third team takes either Klay or Maxi with one of Dallas first and sends NYK a cheaper and/or more useful player.

[Godaddycurse]

I think OG signed on a 25% max (pretty much) is worth closer to what NYK paid to get him..

with his trade kicker he would be close to a 28-29% contract for the receiving team. he aint fetching more than what NYK paid to get him.

If OP want rotation player(s) isntead of dead expirings in return then he aint fetching more than 1 pick

Yeah, even though the third team doesn’t pay it you’re right. The tax implications are there.

I do think Dallas offers Gafford and both firsts though? Third team takes either Klay or Maxi with one of Dallas first and sends NYK a cheaper and/or more useful player.

OG counts 42M against the cap if Dallas trades for him. Dallas has 500k space under apron.

Kleber + Gafford + Klay + Powell + Exum = 47M or so. so you need to trade Grimes or prosper as well to cover for the vet mins incoming. i'm skeptical you can make a 6 for 1 work mid season/would be really hard to get OG without including PJ (or Naji)

[Magic_Johnny12]

Isn’t OG considered a negative asset just due to injury history and now a near max contract?

These offers seem extremely off.

If Knicks don’t win it all this season and those tax bills start becoming due, there will inevitably be some tax savings moves happening and OG might be in the forefront of that.

I agree that he's unlikely to return the offers listed in O.P., but suggesting he has negative value is going too far in the other direction. Get him away from Thibs/Nurse/JBB type coaches, load management him properly, and he should have a long career.

So get him to a very specific team that is forced to load manage him just so he is able to have a long (does not mean productive) career?

A 4th option getting paid near max money in a NBA landscape where teams are doing everything in their power to avoid the 2nd apron just doesn’t scream a positive asset to me.

Herb Jones is getting paid 53M TOTAL to do everything OG does that’s making $48M in his last year of his contract alone.

Overpaid is an understatement in todays CBA.

[Godaddycurse]

Isn’t OG considered a negative asset just due to injury history and now a near max contract?

These offers seem extremely off.

If Knicks don’t win it all this season and those tax bills start becoming due, there will inevitably be some tax savings moves happening and OG might be in the forefront of that.

I agree that he's unlikely to return the offers listed in O.P., but suggesting he has negative value is going too far in the other direction. Get him away from Thibs/Nurse/JBB type coaches, load management him properly, and he should have a long career.

So get him to a very specific team that is forced to load manage him just so he is able to have a long (does not mean productive) career?

A 4th option getting paid near max money in a NBA landscape where teams are doing everything in their power to avoid the 2nd apron just doesn’t scream a positive asset to me.

Herb Jones is getting paid 53M TOTAL to do everything OG does that’s making $48M in his last year of his contract alone.

Overpaid is an understatement in todays CBA.

Herb Jones was coming off a 2nd rd standard contract as rfa and is severely underpaid as a result vs his real market value. Derrick White is a closer comp and his contract was considered a steal as well.

[oldncreaky]

In the current CBA, don't think teams can afford to pay a role player 200m.

It’s the issue the Knicks are having. But if a team can acquire him without depleting their depth it’s a different story.

Had the Knicks not gone all in on Bridges, they would be fine having Anunoby at his salary slot.

In the Kings example, they have:

Fox/Ellis/DeRozan/Anunoby/Sabonia
Carter/Huerter/Lyles

Probably a minority opinion, but I think the issue was going all in on Bridges not getting OG