Best Jimmy-Beal Trade Yet

[JMAC3]

Two separate trades, 1st is between Denver/Phoenix/Brooklyn. 2nd is between Miami, Phoenix and Toronto

Denver in: Grayson Allen
Phoenix in: Zeke Nnaji, Dario Saric, Denver 2031 (top4 protected)
Brooklyn in: Jalen Pickett

Pretty simple, been discussed why it makes sense for parties.

Now the new 2nd trade.

Miami out: Jimmy Butler
Miami in: RJ Barrett, Bruce Brown, 2030 Raptors 2nd, 2031 Nuggets 2nd.

Phoenix out: Bradley Beal, 2031 first (unprotected), 2031 Nuggets first, 2031 Nuggets 2nd
Phoenix in: Jimmy Butler

Toronto out: RJ Barrett, Bruce Brown, 2030 Raptors 2nd
Toronto In: Bradley Beal, 2031 Suns first, 2031 Nuggets first

Toronto is clearly tanking and picking up 2 future firsts from older teams that are virtually unprotected would be worth it.
Suns basically ship out Allen, Beal and 1st for Jimmy and bad contracts.
Miami gets two guys who can help them win this year and a few 2nds. The Brown contract gives them a lot of wiggle this summer and Barrett is a young player who Miami might be able to get the best version out of, contract is pretty solid too.

[wegotthabeet]

Beal would not wave his no trade clause to go to Toronto making this proposal moot.

[nomansland]

I've been saying that Denver's gotta be very careful moving any more picks, but this trade might make it worth it.

However it doesn't work on the trade machine. Something about how Brooklyn can't just take in Pickett's salary, something's gotta go out.

[JMAC3]

I've been saying that Denver's gotta be very careful moving any more picks, but this trade might make it worth it.

However it doesn't work on the trade machine. Something about how Brooklyn can't just take in Pickett's salary, something's gotta go out.

They can trade a top 55 protected 2nd, which is pretty much nothing to cheat the system.

[BBallFreak]

Miami passes. This shouldn't be that difficult. We will not compromise our 2026 plan for anything we're going to get for Butler.

[JMAC3]

Miami passes. This shouldn't be that difficult. We will not compromise our 2026 plan for anything we're going to get for Butler.

Bruce Brown is expiring, Barrett is 24 yrs old averaging 23 ppg and makes 25 million which is nothing for a starter.

Heat can just as easily trade Rozier, Robinson for a star this summer as expirings. They don't need cap space, this isn't 2012.
Anyone worth anything that is scheduled to be a FA in 2026 will sign extensions prior to then anyways.

Imagine thinking that in todays NBA SGA, Doncic, Trae Young etc... aren't signing a supermax contract extension in their prime if offered it.

[BBallFreak]

Miami passes. This shouldn't be that difficult. We will not compromise our 2026 plan for anything we're going to get for Butler.

Bruce Brown is expiring, Barrett is 24 yrs old averaging 23 ppg and makes 25 million which is nothing for a starter.

Heat can just as easily trade Rozier, Robinson for a star this summer as expirings. They don't need cap space, this isn't 2012.
Anyone worth anything that is scheduled to be a FA in 2026 will sign extensions prior to then anyways.

Imagine thinking that in todays NBA SGA, Doncic, Trae Young etc... aren't signing a supermax contract extension in their prime if offered it.

If he's so valuable you shouldn't have a hard time finding a team willing to give up shorter, useful contracts and value

[Kineto]

Beal's contract ends the same year as K. Leonard's, and LAC will be a treadmill team for the next 3 years, so I think the best suitor for Beal is LAC.

But the trade I had in mind was quite similar to yours, so I put it there.

PHX in : Butler
PHX out : Beal, PHX 2031 unprotected 1st, other assets from separate trades
PHX : they get Butler, they get rid of Beal (and their future...), Ishbia should be happy.


MIA in : Powel, B. Brown, PJ Tucker, asset from PHX separate trades
MIA out : Butler, Love, Burk
MIA : Powel+Brown will be useful pieces for this year (even Tucker if he finds a new youth under the Florida sun?), and they get a 1st.
Maybe PHX can get another 1st if they trade Dunn in another separate trade.


LAC in : Beal, PHX 2031 unprotected 1st
LAC out : Powel, Tuckr, Mann, DJJ
LAC: Beal could be a marginal upgrade over Powel, and Beal+Harden+Leonard is a good enough trio to keep LAC fans and tourists happy and the new arena full for the next 3 years. Then it will be rebuilding time, and an unprotected 1st from a team that will probably be very bad post-KD/Butler is probably a very valuable asset.


TOR in : Mann, DJJ
TOR out : B. Brown
TOR : They swap the expiring Brown contract for two valuable role players who can be traded later, or kept if TOR feel they are good enough (probably not the ideal profile for a rebuilding team, but Massai seems to be reluctant to do a full rebuild, so I guess this kind of package may interest him).


SAS in : K. Love (2nd ?)
SAS out : fake 2nd
SAS: They get another cheap veteran to surround Wemby and teach him new tricks. Maybe get a 2nd for their cap space.

[JMAC3]

Miami passes. This shouldn't be that difficult. We will not compromise our 2026 plan for anything we're going to get for Butler.

Bruce Brown is expiring, Barrett is 24 yrs old averaging 23 ppg and makes 25 million which is nothing for a starter.

Heat can just as easily trade Rozier, Robinson for a star this summer as expirings. They don't need cap space, this isn't 2012.
Anyone worth anything that is scheduled to be a FA in 2026 will sign extensions prior to then anyways.

Imagine thinking that in todays NBA SGA, Doncic, Trae Young etc... aren't signing a supermax contract extension in their prime if offered it.

If he's so valuable you shouldn't have a hard time finding a team willing to give up shorter, useful contracts and value

Yeah Miami probably could trade Barrett for a 1st pretty easily in the next 12 months assuming they don't completely tank his value like they did with Rozier.

Who do you think Miami is signing with cap space in 2026 because apparently that is that matters lol? 37 yr old Durant? 41 yr old LeBron.

[BBallFreak]

Bruce Brown is expiring, Barrett is 24 yrs old averaging 23 ppg and makes 25 million which is nothing for a starter.

Heat can just as easily trade Rozier, Robinson for a star this summer as expirings. They don't need cap space, this isn't 2012.
Anyone worth anything that is scheduled to be a FA in 2026 will sign extensions prior to then anyways.

Imagine thinking that in todays NBA SGA, Doncic, Trae Young etc... aren't signing a supermax contract extension in their prime if offered it.

If he's so valuable you shouldn't have a hard time finding a team willing to give up shorter, useful contracts and value

Yeah Miami probably could trade Barrett for a 1st pretty easily in the next 12 months assuming they don't completely tank his value like they did with Rozier.

Who do you think Miami is signing with cap space in 2026 because apparently that is that matters lol? 37 yr old Durant? 41 yr old LeBron.

Well, that settles it! JMAC on the Internet doesn't like our plan, so let's give it up! Might as well take Beal and pay them for it!

Buddy, we're not asking for a lot - a decent player who can help us get to the playoffs, and contracts that don't go beyond 2026. Don't like it? Don't deal with us! But those are our parameters! Respect them or expect rejection of your ideas.

[Godaddycurse]

Bruce Brown is expiring, Barrett is 24 yrs old averaging 23 ppg and makes 25 million which is nothing for a starter.

Heat can just as easily trade Rozier, Robinson for a star this summer as expirings. They don't need cap space, this isn't 2012.
Anyone worth anything that is scheduled to be a FA in 2026 will sign extensions prior to then anyways.

Imagine thinking that in todays NBA SGA, Doncic, Trae Young etc... aren't signing a supermax contract extension in their prime if offered it.

If he's so valuable you shouldn't have a hard time finding a team willing to give up shorter, useful contracts and value

Yeah Miami probably could trade Barrett for a 1st pretty easily in the next 12 months assuming they don't completely tank his value like they did with Rozier.

Who do you think Miami is signing with cap space in 2026 because apparently that is that matters lol? 37 yr old Durant? 41 yr old LeBron.

Why wouldn't we just do that ourselves and not bother with Beal's huge contract? if Barrett is worth a 1st then you're saying we eat Beal for 1 extra 1st only which is not happening

[JMAC3]

Well, that settles it! JMAC on the Internet doesn't like our plan, so let's give it up! Might as well take Beal and pay them for it!

Buddy, we're not asking for a lot - a decent player who can help us get to the playoffs, and contracts that don't go beyond 2026. Don't like it? Don't deal with us! But those are our parameters! Respect them or expect rejection of your ideas.

Again, who are you guys signing as a FA in 2026 with cap space?

[JMAC3]

If he's so valuable you shouldn't have a hard time finding a team willing to give up shorter, useful contracts and value

Yeah Miami probably could trade Barrett for a 1st pretty easily in the next 12 months assuming they don't completely tank his value like they did with Rozier.

Who do you think Miami is signing with cap space in 2026 because apparently that is that matters lol? 37 yr old Durant? 41 yr old LeBron.

Why wouldn't we just do that ourselves and not bother with Beal's huge contract? if Barrett is worth a 1st then you're saying we eat Beal for 1 extra 1st only which is not happening

You can, but you are getting 2 unprotected firsts for taking on Beal in this proposal.
Barrett is probably snagging you 1 first in the 25 pick range in a year if that came together.

[BBallFreak]

Again, who are you guys signing as a FA in 2026 with cap space?

*Sigh*

Who in the F cares?

Seriously, Pat Riley and Miami's front office has targeted that year. Like it or not, that's what we're going for. So why is that so offensive to you?

[Kineto]

Beal's contract ends the same year as K. Leonard's, and LAC will be a treadmill team for the next 3 years, so I think the best suitor for Beal is LAC.

But the trade I had in mind was quite similar to yours, so I put it there.

PHX in : Butler
PHX out : Beal, PHX 2031 unprotected 1st, other assets from separate trades
PHX : they get Butler, they get rid of Beal (and their future...), Ishbia should be happy.


MIA in : Powel, B. Brown, PJ Tucker, asset from PHX separate trades
MIA out : Butler, Love, Burk
MIA : Powel+Brown will be useful pieces for this year (even Tucker if he finds a new youth under the Florida sun?), and they get a 1st.
Maybe PHX can get another 1st if they trade Dunn in another separate trade.


LAC in : Beal, PHX 2031 unprotected 1st
LAC out : Powel, Tuckr, Mann, DJJ
LAC: Beal could be a marginal upgrade over Powel, and Beal+Harden+Leonard is a good enough trio to keep LAC fans and tourists happy and the new arena full for the next 3 years. Then it will be rebuilding time, and an unprotected 1st from a team that will probably be very bad post-KD/Butler is probably a very valuable asset.


TOR in : Mann, DJJ
TOR out : B. Brown
TOR : They swap the expiring Brown contract for two valuable role players who can be traded later, or kept if TOR feel they are good enough (probably not the ideal profile for a rebuilding team, but Massai seems to be reluctant to do a full rebuild, so I guess this kind of package may interest him).


SAS in : K. Love (2nd ?)
SAS out : fake 2nd
SAS: They get another cheap veteran to surround Wemby and teach him new tricks. Maybe get a 2nd for their cap space.

OK, I have cleaned up my mess.

[Kineto]

double post

[JMAC3]

Again, who are you guys signing as a FA in 2026 with cap space?

*Sigh*

Who in the F cares?

Seriously, Pat Riley and Miami's front office has targeted that year. Like it or not, that's what we're going for. So why is that so offensive to you?

I mean I feel like that is probably an important part of the plan if every move you are making is sacrificing adding talent in the short term for this hypothetical payoff.

[drchaos]

The Nets may or may not be able to use Pickett.

Are we just getting him for free or were we supposed to throw in one of our young scrubs?

[BBallFreak]

Beal's contract ends the same year as K. Leonard's, and LAC will be a treadmill team for the next 3 years, so I think the best suitor for Beal is LAC.

But the trade I had in mind was quite similar to yours, so I put it there.

PHX in : Butler
PHX out : Beal + PHX 2031 unprotected 1st
PHX : they get Butler, they get rid of Beal (and their future...), Ishbia should be happy.


MIA in : Powel, B. Brown, PJ Tucker, asset from PHX separate trades
MIA out : Butler, Love, Burk
MIA : Powel+Brown will be useful pieces for this year (even Tucker if he finds a new youth under the Florida sun?), and they get a 1st.
Maybe PHX can get another 1st if they trade Dunn in another separate trade.


LAC in : Beal, PHX 2031 unprotected 1st
LAC out : Powel, Tuckr, Mann, DJJ
LAC: Beal could be a marginal upgrade over Powel, and Beal+Harden+Leonard is a good enough trio to keep LAC fans and tourists happy and the new arena full for the next 3 years. Then it will be rebuilding time, and an unprotected 1st from a team that will probably be very bad post-KD/Butler is probably a very valuable asset.


TOR in : Mann, DJJ
TOR out : B. Brown
TOR : They swap the expiring Brown contract for two valuable role players who can be traded later, or kept if TOR feel they are good enough (probably not the ideal profile for a rebuilding team, but Massai seems to be reluctant to do a full rebuild, so I guess this kind of package may interest him).


SAS in : K. Love (2nd ?)
SAS out : fake 2nd
SAS: They get another cheap veteran to surround Wemby and teach him new tricks. Maybe get a 2nd for their cap space.

OK, I have cleaned up my mess.

How about Dunn to Miami? A first, Dunn, and expiring deals is something to at least hang our hats on.

[Kineto]

Beal's contract ends the same year as K. Leonard's, and LAC will be a treadmill team for the next 3 years, so I think the best suitor for Beal is LAC.

But the trade I had in mind was quite similar to yours, so I put it there.

PHX in : Butler
PHX out : Beal + PHX 2031 unprotected 1st
PHX : they get Butler, they get rid of Beal (and their future...), Ishbia should be happy.


MIA in : Powel, B. Brown, PJ Tucker, asset from PHX separate trades
MIA out : Butler, Love, Burk
MIA : Powel+Brown will be useful pieces for this year (even Tucker if he finds a new youth under the Florida sun?), and they get a 1st.
Maybe PHX can get another 1st if they trade Dunn in another separate trade.


LAC in : Beal, PHX 2031 unprotected 1st
LAC out : Powel, Tuckr, Mann, DJJ
LAC: Beal could be a marginal upgrade over Powel, and Beal+Harden+Leonard is a good enough trio to keep LAC fans and tourists happy and the new arena full for the next 3 years. Then it will be rebuilding time, and an unprotected 1st from a team that will probably be very bad post-KD/Butler is probably a very valuable asset.


TOR in : Mann, DJJ
TOR out : B. Brown
TOR : They swap the expiring Brown contract for two valuable role players who can be traded later, or kept if TOR feel they are good enough (probably not the ideal profile for a rebuilding team, but Massai seems to be reluctant to do a full rebuild, so I guess this kind of package may interest him).


SAS in : K. Love (2nd ?)
SAS out : fake 2nd
SAS: They get another cheap veteran to surround Wemby and teach him new tricks. Maybe get a 2nd for their cap space.

OK, I have cleaned up my mess.

How about Dunn to Miami? A first, Dunn, and expiring deals is something to at least hang our hats on.

PHX can't agregate contract, Dunn to MIA must be done in a separate trade