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Zion Hornets... (I need help to complete the trade)
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:14 pm
by Astaluego
HORNETS
In:Zion
Out: Bridges + (stuffed)+ MAVS and HEAT (FRP)
NOP
In:MAVS and HEAT FRP + (3 teams salary(expiring or active)
Out:Zion
3 TEAM
In:Bridges
Out:?
Who could be that team that Bridges takes?.. What filling should HORNETS include?
expiration or any of your prospectus?
which?
NOP stays with Miles? Do you need more selections?
Re: Zion Hornets... (I need help to complete the trade)
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:31 pm
by MasterIchiro
Miles makes sense for the Pistons who are geared to win a playoff spot.
I'd rather keep Miles plus the 2 lightly-protected firsts.
I'd consider Miles for Isaiah Stewart and Sasser.
Re: Zion Hornets... (I need help to complete the trade)
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:52 pm
by Astaluego
MasterIchiro wrote:Miles makes sense for the Pistons who are geared to win a playoff spot.
I'd rather keep Miles plus the 2 lightly-protected firsts.
I'd consider Miles for Isaiah Stewart and Sasser.
Stewart+Zion to HORNETS
Mark/Diabate
Zion/Stewart
B.Miller/G.Williams
Martín/Green
Ball/Mann
Micic+Bridges+Richards to PISTONS
Duren/Richards
Harris/Fontecchio
Bridges/Beasley
Thompson/*Ivey
Cade/Micic
THJ+Salaun+Heat FRP+ 2/3 SRP to NOP
Re: Zion Hornets... (I need help to complete the trade)
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:14 pm
by MasterIchiro
Astaluego wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:Miles makes sense for the Pistons who are geared to win a playoff spot.
I'd rather keep Miles plus the 2 lightly-protected firsts.
I'd consider Miles for Isaiah Stewart and Sasser.
Stewart+Zion to HORNETS
Mark/Diabate
Zion/Stewart
B.Miller/G.Williams
Martín/Green
Ball/Mann
Micic+Bridges+Richards to PISTONS
Duren/Richards
Harris/Fontecchio
Bridges/Beasley
Thompson/*Ivey
Cade/Micic
THJ+Salaun+Heat FRP+ 2/3 SRP to NOP
It's not bad, but I love our top 2 scoring options as is, and want to reserve the 2 firsts for a more stable 3rd option over a volatile 1st option. Only one ball. I like LaMelo 1, Miller 2, X 3. For now X is Miles.
Re: Zion Hornets... (I need help to complete the trade)
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:49 pm
by Astaluego
MasterIchiro wrote:Astaluego wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:Miles makes sense for the Pistons who are geared to win a playoff spot.
I'd rather keep Miles plus the 2 lightly-protected firsts.
I'd consider Miles for Isaiah Stewart and Sasser.
Stewart+Zion to HORNETS
Mark/Diabate
Zion/Stewart
B.Miller/G.Williams
Martín/Green
Ball/Mann
Micic+Bridges+Richards to PISTONS
Duren/Richards
Harris/Fontecchio
Bridges/Beasley
Thompson/*Ivey
Cade/Micic
THJ+Salaun+Heat FRP+ 2/3 SRP to NOP
It's not bad, but I love our top 2 scoring options as is, and want to reserve the 2 firsts for a more stable 3rd option over a volatile 1st option. Only one ball. I like LaMelo 1, Miller 2, X 3. For now X is Miles.
Cooper Flagg complements the perfect team or Edgecombe (below) at least on paper, so the answer is probably through the Draft... (but given that we are in a transaction forum and I am really interested in your opinion especially (or that of anyone who wants to participate) what commercial objectives do you like for Charlotte...?
Re: Zion Hornets... (I need help to complete the trade)
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:54 pm
by MasterIchiro
Astaluego wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:Astaluego wrote:Stewart+Zion to HORNETS
Mark/Diabate
Zion/Stewart
B.Miller/G.Williams
Martín/Green
Ball/Mann
Micic+Bridges+Richards to PISTONS
Duren/Richards
Harris/Fontecchio
Bridges/Beasley
Thompson/*Ivey
Cade/Micic
THJ+Salaun+Heat FRP+ 2/3 SRP to NOP
It's not bad, but I love our top 2 scoring options as is, and want to reserve the 2 firsts for a more stable 3rd option over a volatile 1st option. Only one ball. I like LaMelo 1, Miller 2, X 3. For now X is Miles.
Cooper Flagg complements the perfect team or Edgecombe (below) at least on paper, so the answer is probably through the Draft... (but given that we are in a transaction forum and I am really interested in your opinion especially (or that of anyone who wants to participate) what commercial objectives do you like for Charlotte...?
Yeah, the draft is the other issue with paying big for a lead guy when we already have LaMelo and Miller. Add in Flagg or Harper or Jakucionis and the need to surrender lightly-protected 1sts for someone to get touches ahead of those 3 goes way down.
I like the modified version of Zion to the Hawks with the Hornets dealing Salaun plus 2027 Mavs plus Richards for Deandre Hunter & Nance Jr.
Re: Zion Hornets... (I need help to complete the trade)
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:01 pm
by Laimbeer
The Pistons don't need another athletic wing who can't shoot. He's talented, but he isn't a fit and the thought of him on the team still makes me a little nauseous.
Re: Zion Hornets... (I need help to complete the trade)
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:44 pm
by jbk1234
The Hornets are currently 8-27. Under no circumstances should they trade future first round picks this season in an effort to get marginally better - especially for a player like Zion who is a huge injury risk.
If they get value for Miles they like (I'm skeptical), then sure pull the trigger. Otherwise, wait until this summer to start pushing chips onto the table.
Re: Zion Hornets... (I need help to complete the trade)
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:56 pm
by drosestruts
3-team deal with Charlotte - New Orleans - Toronto
Charlotte in: Zion Williamson, Kelly Olynyk, Garrett Temple, Jeremiah Robinson-Earl
Charlottte out: Miles Bridges, Mark Williams, Vasilijie Micic, Cody Martin, 2025 NOP 2nd, Better of 2027 MIA or DAL 1st
Hornets add Zion to their core alongside LaMelo and Miller.
New Orleans in: Mark Williams, Bruce Brown, Cody Martin, 2025 NOP 2nd, Better of 2027 MIA or DAL 1st
New Orleans out: Zion Williamson, Daniel Theis, Jeremiah Robinson-Earl
Brown is expiring, Martin in non-guranteed so there's cap savings there. And then they add another young center to go with Missi and cover what has been their biggest positional weakness depth wise.
Toronto in: Miles Bridges, Daniel Theis, and Vasilijie Micic
Toronto out: Bruce Brown, Kelly Olynyk, and Garret Temple
Toronto adds a wing scorer in Bridges locked in for 3 years and some expiring deals.
Re: Zion Hornets... (I need help to complete the trade)
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:48 pm
by Texas Chuck
Toronto should not be adding another mediocre offensive player making that kind of money for that many years. Their roster is already clogged with these guys.
Re: Zion Hornets... (I need help to complete the trade)
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:55 pm
by GoBobs
Josh Green, Cody Martin, Vasa Miccic and T. Salaun, plus 1 first for Zion and what ever scrubs they want to throw in for roster spot purposes