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Magic McCollum

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:39 pm
by NYG
C.J. McCollum and Daniel Theis for Cole Anthony, Jett Howard, Gary Harris and Cory Joseph

Magic add a solid fitting veteran leader without sacrificing their picks/assets to do so.

Pelicans get below the tax and save some long-term money as well.

Re: Magic McCollum

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:01 pm
by Skybox
Great one!!! Well done :D

Re: Magic McCollum

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:33 pm
by orlando_joe
do not see magic adding 13 mill in tax to next season and put them in 2nd apron for cj

Re: Magic McCollum

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:38 pm
by Magic_Johnny12
orlando_joe wrote:do not see magic adding 13 mill in tax to next season and put them in 2nd apron for cj


This. McCollum does fit, but so do a lot of other good players on massive contracts that are not realistic options due to cap/apron concerns.

Eventually, Orlando will have to commit to a high salary roster, but don’t think that time is now and don’t think that player is CJ McCollum.

Re: Magic McCollum

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:53 pm
by kobe_vs_jordan
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:do not see magic adding 13 mill in tax to next season and put them in 2nd apron for cj


This. McCollum does fit, but so do a lot of other good players on massive contracts that are not realistic options due to cap/apron concerns.

Eventually, Orlando will have to commit to a high salary roster, but don’t think that time is now and don’t think that player is CJ McCollum.

What about KCP and Cole anthony for CJ ? Think CJ expiring after next season has some use if magic want to wait commit to a bigger move next year.

Re: Magic McCollum

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 7:39 pm
by orlando_joe
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:do not see magic adding 13 mill in tax to next season and put them in 2nd apron for cj


This. McCollum does fit, but so do a lot of other good players on massive contracts that are not realistic options due to cap/apron concerns.

Eventually, Orlando will have to commit to a high salary roster, but don’t think that time is now and don’t think that player is CJ McCollum.

What about KCP and Cole anthony for CJ ? Think CJ expiring after next season has some use if magic want to wait commit to a bigger move next year.

i think magic want to see more then the 5 games with full team this yr before making a big move...magic pass

Re: Magic McCollum

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 7:47 pm
by hugepatsfan
Spotrac has the Magic $11.5M below the tax line next year with 15 players signed, including all 4 guys in this deal (Anthony/Howard/Harris/CoJo) for a combined $29.6M. So between the $11.5M they're under and the $29.6M they're clearing, that's $41.1M of room below the tax. McCollum will make $30.7M. So they'd still have $10.4M to use to fill their last few spots. They'd have a roster of:

Suggs / Black
CJ / KCP
Wagner / Da Silva / Houstan
Banchero / Isaac
WCJ / Wagner / Bitadze

CJ expires after that season so no money taken on there. I see luxury tax concerns cited a lot for why ORL wouldn't trade for CJ and not sure I get it. They can get under the tax with him and they have a full 10-man rotation... 11 guys, actually.

Re: Magic McCollum

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:08 pm
by orlando_joe
hugepatsfan wrote:Spotrac has the Magic $11.5M below the tax line next year with 15 players signed, including all 4 guys in this deal (Anthony/Howard/Harris/CoJo) for a combined $29.6M. So between the $11.5M they're under and the $29.6M they're clearing, that's $41.1M of room below the tax. McCollum will make $30.7M. So they'd still have $10.4M to use to fill their last few spots. They'd have a roster of:

Suggs / Black
CJ / KCP
Wagner / Da Silva / Houstan
Banchero / Isaac
WCJ / Wagner / Bitadze

CJ expires after that season so no money taken on there. I see luxury tax concerns cited a lot for why ORL wouldn't trade for CJ and not sure I get it. They can get under the tax with him and they have a full 10-man rotation... 11 guys, actually.

harris and cojo team options wont be back...if they bring back mo wagner and just 1 of the 2 first rd picks and min player to fill right at tax line over really
magic at 175 mill next yr without mo,harris,cojo and houstan all team options

tax line will be 188 or am i wrong?

Re: Magic McCollum

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:04 pm
by Magic_Johnny12
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:do not see magic adding 13 mill in tax to next season and put them in 2nd apron for cj


This. McCollum does fit, but so do a lot of other good players on massive contracts that are not realistic options due to cap/apron concerns.

Eventually, Orlando will have to commit to a high salary roster, but don’t think that time is now and don’t think that player is CJ McCollum.

What about KCP and Cole anthony for CJ ? Think CJ expiring after next season has some use if magic want to wait commit to a bigger move next year.


Maybe, just maybe this is a summer deal but definitely not this season. KCP has only played 5 games with a fully healthy roster and was recently signed.

Relationships matter in the NBA and Orlando almost never signs Klutch guys so trading KCP to the worst team in the NBA after a half a season and after all the injuries Orlando has had would look really really bad. Just not something Orlando front office would do realistically (unfortunately).

Re: Magic McCollum

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 1:09 am
by BigGargamel
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Relationships matter in the NBA and Orlando almost never signs Klutch guys so trading KCP to the worst team in the NBA after a half a season and after all the injuries Orlando has had would look really really bad. Just not something Orlando front office would do realistically (unfortunately).


I keep mentioning this every time I see guys like KCP and DeRozan mentioned in trade offers. This isn't NBA 2K. Signing KCP was a big deal for an Orlando franchise that never really signs free agents. They lured him away from a recent champion, and KCP was very happy to come to Orlando. Trading him away just a few short months later would seriously impact their ability to sign free agents in the future. Things like this are never taken into consideration on this board, but it should be. Recent free agent signings aren't traded, unless you want to make it tougher for agents to trust you in the future.

Re: Magic McCollum

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:14 am
by Skybox
BigGargamel wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Relationships matter in the NBA and Orlando almost never signs Klutch guys so trading KCP to the worst team in the NBA after a half a season and after all the injuries Orlando has had would look really really bad. Just not something Orlando front office would do realistically (unfortunately).


I keep mentioning this every time I see guys like KCP and DeRozan mentioned in trade offers. This isn't NBA 2K. Signing KCP was a big deal for an Orlando franchise that never really signs free agents. They lured him away from a recent champion, and KCP was very happy to come to Orlando. Trading him away just a few short months later would seriously impact their ability to sign free agents in the future. Things like this are never taken into consideration on this board, but it should be. Recent free agent signings aren't traded, unless you want to make it tougher for agents to trust you in the future.


If by “lured” you mean overpaid beyond what DEN was willing to do…right. KCP would be very happy to take his fat new deal back to LAL or DEN, etc and play for a ring this year and next. “This isn’t NBA2K” is definitely among the weakest cliches on RealGm