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BKN Gets: Kevin Huerter, Devin Carter, & Future SAC 1st (Top 14 Protected - Conveys 2 Years After Pick to ATL)
BKN Gives: Cam Johnson & Day’Ron Sharpe
Why for BKN? The Nets cash in on their win now vet and pickup a recent lotto pick in Devin Carter (who they were reportedly interested in at the time) and a future 1st round pick.

PG - Carter / Russell / Melton
SG - Thomas / Johnson / Lewis
SF - Williams / Huerter / Whitehead
PF - Simmons / Wilson / Watford / Bogdanovic
C - Claxton / Clowney

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MIN Gets: Cam Johnson
MIN Gives: Jaden McDaniels
Why for MIN? A trio of McDaniels, Randle, & Gobert is not a very good shooting frontcourt. It would really make things easier on Edwards if they could add another sniper on the floor with him. This trade does just that. Losing McDaniels defense is not ideal, but it’s not like Johnson is a liability on defense and they still have a DPOY level C anchoring the defense (not to mention guys like Edwards, DiVincenzo, NAW, etc. to help on the perimeter defensively).

PG - Conley / DiVincenzo / Dillingham
SG - Edwards / NAW / Shannon
SF - Johnson / Ingles
PF - Randle / Minott / Miller
C - Gobert / Reid / Garza

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SAC Gets: Jaden McDaniels & Day’Ron Sharpe
SAC Gives: Kevin Huerter, Devin Carter, & Future SAC 1st (Top 14 Protected - Conveys 2 Years After Pick to ATL)
Why for Kings? The Kings get some much needed help in the frontcourt and address one of their biggest weaknesses (a big, long, athletic forward who can defend, help protect the rim, and space the floor). McDaniels hasn't been shooting particularly well this year, but they’d be betting long term that he can space the floor at a decent clip to keep the paint clear for Fox, DeRozan, and Sabonis. Also, with Fox, Ellis, Murray, and McDaniels getting a lot of the minutes in the rotation, I think the Kings have a good shot at being a top 10 defensive team. Lastly, I could potentially see Monk & DeRozan being moved to the bench maybe next season allowing them to start 3 excellent defenders between Fox and Sabonis (Ellis, Murray, and McDaniels), but it would be ideal for at least one of those guys developing enough to be a solid secondary scorer/playmaker to help keep the offense flowing.

PG - Fox / Monk / McLaughlin
SG - Ellis / Jones
SF - DeRozan / McDaniels / McDermott
PF - Murray / Lyles / Crowder
C - Sabonis / Sharpe / Len

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I know some people think Jaden < Cam, but I’m not one of them. People can debate that.

I agree with you that Cam would improve the Wolves three point shooting, but MIN is already #4 in the NBA in 3P%, and #6 in volume. They have bigger needs.

Lastly, it’s a big deal for MIN to have players that want to be there. Ant and Jaden are close, and both signed full five year extensions without the typical player option on the last year. The FO and fans view Ant, Jaden and Naz as the team’s young core.

This feels like selling at the lowest and buying at the highest for the TWolves, I wouldn't do it. I think it makes more sense with Cam Johnson going straight to the Kings.

I like this. I think Brooklyn likes this. I think Minn says no and it’s a mistake.

The fits are much better for both teams and Brooklyn gets what they want for their situation.

I get the point that is and has been made regarding the perception of Minn core going forward. But I respond with the same answer we get when the talk about trading Fix comes up and people debate whether that will anger Monk.

It’s a business in the end and the GM’s top job is to field the best possible team.

Why is Devin Carter in this?

We aren’t giving up more than one asset for Johnson, which is now a reported Huerter/lyles/one first

And we reportedly aren’t offering Carter

wemby wrote:This feels like selling at the lowest and buying at the highest for the TWolves, I wouldn't do it. I think it makes more sense with Cam Johnson going straight to the Kings.

Agreed. I think McDaniels for Johnson rocks the boat too much and doesn't do enough to solve their problems (mainly that they traded for Julius [BAD LANGUAGE REDACTED] Randle).

I feel like we already had this trade discussion of Cam and Jaden. Jaden is younger, taller, longer, a much better defender, best friends with Ant, and flashing signs of getting his offense together. Cam is a good shooter and not much else. Worse, his shooting this season doesn’t feel sustainable. We have seen plenty of examples of guys shoot great for a year and then return to the mean. The Wolves have no interest in turning a blue chip McDaniels into another shooting wing.

P.S, if Dillingham is the future of Minnesota guard play then Jaden is even more vital. Dilly will be a hopeless liability on defense, and you cannot lack POA defense in your starting 5. Ant can do it but prefers to save his energy. There is no way we can start Dilly and Cam together next year.

winforlose wrote:I feel like we already had this trade discussion of Cam and Jaden. Jaden is younger, taller, longer, a much better defender, best friends with Ant, and flashing signs of getting his offense together. Cam is a good shooter and not much else. Worse, his shooting this season doesn’t feel sustainable. We have seen plenty of examples of guys shoot great for a year and then return to the mean. The Wolves have no interest in turning a blue chip McDaniels into another shooting wing.

P.S, if Dillingham is the future of Minnesota guard play then Jaden is even more vital. Dilly will be a hopeless liability on defense, and you cannot lack POA defense in your starting 5. Ant can do it but prefers to save his energy. There is no way we can start Dilly and Cam together next year.

Perhaps it makes more sense to route both Johnson & Carter to MIN then and have MIN send a less valuable incentive to BKN (since it seems like BKN is making out too well in this deal). Carter can be that POA defender of the future for MIN and Johnson gives you that much needed sniper.

BoogieTime wrote:Why is Devin Carter in this?

We aren’t giving up more than one asset for Johnson, which is now a reported Huerter/lyles/one first

And we reportedly aren’t offering Carter

We’re not getting Johnson in the trade.

bpcox05 wrote:

winforlose wrote:I feel like we already had this trade discussion of Cam and Jaden. Jaden is younger, taller, longer, a much better defender, best friends with Ant, and flashing signs of getting his offense together. Cam is a good shooter and not much else. Worse, his shooting this season doesn’t feel sustainable. We have seen plenty of examples of guys shoot great for a year and then return to the mean. The Wolves have no interest in turning a blue chip McDaniels into another shooting wing.

P.S, if Dillingham is the future of Minnesota guard play then Jaden is even more vital. Dilly will be a hopeless liability on defense, and you cannot lack POA defense in your starting 5. Ant can do it but prefers to save his energy. There is no way we can start Dilly and Cam together next year.

Perhaps it makes more sense to route both Johnson & Carter to MIN then and have MIN send a less valuable incentive to BKN (since it seems like BKN is making out too well in this deal). Carter can be that POA defender of the future for MIN and Johnson gives you that much needed sniper.

Let’s try it this way

Dillingham/Ant/MCD/Naz/Rudy 25/26 starting lineup.

Where is the POA defense? The answer is MCD.

Trading for Carter who is 6’2, 195lbs, makes it what
Dillingham/Carter/Ant/Naz/Rudy.

Now we have two players under 6’3, we force Ant out of his desired position, and we are playing small ball. We already have Donte for a sniper. Ant is on pace to being the best 3 point shooter in the NBA. We can sign a movement shooter in free agency or find one that doesn’t cost our best defender. Cam Johnson is not close to being worth Jaden because Jaden is developing into a solid two way player. Cam is a one way player who is done developing. He is in his prime. This is the peak, and in 2-3 years he will start his decent to the valley.

P.S, I am unfamiliar with Carter’s game. If the Kings wanted NAW and the Wolves wanted a backup PG of the future with POA defense this might be something to look at. Kings getting better now and the Wolves having another young body to develop. But, from what little reading I did on Carter, he seems like Jaylen Clark 2.0. A offensively challenged defensive guard who isn’t great at creating for others. I think it is possible the help now return might be closer to Minott or Miller rather than NAW. Obviously the Wolves FO would know WAY more than me in making that assessment.