Bruce Brown for value?

Post #1 » by **Texas Chuck** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:18 pm

Bruce Brown is negative value at $23M. But I too see the reports where the Raps are leaking to the media about getting more value out of the Siakam trade by dealing him and how they've been convincing their fans for 1 year now that he has value. So I found it. A deal where Toronto takes back no future money and gets an asset.

Londale
Jeff Green
25 OKC 2nd

for

Brown

Main value for the Raptors here is obviously saving the prorated salary. I think they could probably also get Green to take a buyout for a prorated min as I think he could find a roster spot still and save a bit more. But important for some fans, they can also claim to have gotten an asset for him in a very late 2nd.

For the Rockets, its Brown should potentially be able to help more than Green. And they have the room under the tax and take on no future obligations and give up nothing.

Godaddycurse · Post #2 » by **Godaddycurse** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:26 pm

OP is fine. Can tie in teams looking to duck the tax too

Green for Tucker/2nd

and/or

tack on Drummond (into brown TPE from OP) + KJ Martin (into MLE exception) from Philly for 2nds

Post #3 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:37 pm

That OKC 2nd is all but guaranteed to be 55-60. I'm buying out Brown before I eat Landale for that.

Brown is still on a large expiring, he's playable, and there are teams looking to get off of bad future money. What's not knowable is how much future money the Raptors will take back, but if there's an actual Butler trade, I wouldn't be surprised if Brown is involved.

Tripod · Post #4 » by **Tripod** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:37 pm

In the other thread you said you are not biased, then here post : "Bruce Brown is negative value at $23M. But I too see the reports where the Raps are leaking to the media about getting more value out of the Siakam trade by dealing him and how they've been convincing their fans for 1 year now that he has value."

So please, post the receipts where Toronto is leaking things. We all would love to see it. Otherwise, your post comes across as condescending.

LarsV8 · Post #5 » by **LarsV8** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:41 pm

I don't have any interest in Brown.

Would rather just keep our guys.

Post #6 » by **Texas Chuck** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:47 pm

Tripod wrote:In the other thread you said you are not biased, then here post : "Bruce Brown is negative value at $23M. But I too see the reports where the Raps are leaking to the media about getting more value out of the Siakam trade by dealing him and how they've been convincing their fans for 1 year now that he has value."

So please, post the receipts where Toronto is leaking things. We all would love to see it. Otherwise, your post comes across as condescending.

Dude, you are looking way too hard. Of course I don't have the texts from a Raps executive. But who is motivated to create a market for him? Only Toronto. Occam's Razor says its them especially since we have been getting these reports going all the way back to when they got him.

But if you think that's crazy talk then ignore it. Or ignore my posts/threads. But its silly to keep stating I have some bias against Toronto for "reasons" you can't possibly articulate and justify.

Get in line behind posters who think I hate their favorite team because I mention their players don't have value. Make sure though you include the little Mavericks where I posted just last week they essentially have 4 players with any real value at all and I was lower on the value on two of them than the board consensus lol. Must be a hater...

Post #7 » by **Texas Chuck** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:52 pm

jbk1234 wrote:That OKC 2nd is all but guaranteed to be 55-60. I'm buying out Brown before I eat Landale for that.

None of his money past this year is gtd.

LightTheBeam · Post #8 » by **LightTheBeam** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:53 pm

I really do think Rockets would prefer to keep Uncle Jeff. Could Tate be swapped in for Green?

Bentley1225 · Post #9 » by **Bentley1225** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:54 pm

The premise should be take back 2 contracts, 1 expiring and 1 contract with $10-12 million cap hit for '25-26 along with 1-2 2nd round picks. I posted a deal whereby Raps get a rotational big (RWIII), an expiring (Mykhaliuk) and a 2nd.

Post #10 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:00 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:That OKC 2nd is all but guaranteed to be 55-60. I'm buying out Brown before I eat Landale for that.

None of his money past this year is gtd.

I keep forgetting that. I'm still hoping for something better if I'm the Raptors.

Johnston · Post #11 » by **Johnston** » Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:54 pm

Only way the Raps are getting picks or anything of value for Brown is by taking back bad salary. Brown himself has no value imo. Doesn't even stand out on a depleted Raptors team.

chrbal · Post #12 » by **chrbal** » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:08 am

He’s either involved in the Jimmy Butler trade because he’s a large expiring or he ends the season with Toronto because his contract is too big for a playoff team to take on if he got waived (isn’t there some rule where some teams can’t add guys waived who made more than the mid level?)

nykballa2k4 · Post #13 » by **nykballa2k4** » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:08 am

Johnston wrote:Only way the Raps are getting picks or anything of value for Brown is by taking back bad salary. Brown himself has no value imo. Doesn't even stand out on a depleted Raptors team.

Brown is really a player who does well on a great team. Put him on the Knicks, Heat, Nuggets -- he will fit like a gem.

Raps... idk what their issue is because I actually like their team, but it just isn't clicking yet.

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #14 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:17 am

Does Cole Anthony/Gary Harris/x2 SRP for Brown tickle anyone’s fancy?

I’m not even sure this makes Orlando better, but I’m hoping there’s a little reemergence in Brown.

Godaddycurse · Post #15 » by **Godaddycurse** » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:18 am

Bentley1225 wrote:The premise should be take back 2 contracts, 1 expiring and 1 contract with $10-12 million cap hit for '25-26 along with 1-2 2nd round picks. I posted a deal whereby Raps get a rotational big (RWIII), an expiring (Mykhaliuk) and a 2nd.

No your premise is terrible value. 10-12 million cost more than that. I rather let brown walk

Godaddycurse · Post #16 » by **Godaddycurse** » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:19 am

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Does Cole Anthony/Gary Harris/x2 SRP for Brown tickle anyone’s fancy?

I’m not even sure this makes Orlando better, but I’m hoping there’s a little reemergence in Brown.

Make that a swap of worse of DEN/ORL 1st for POR 2nd

MessiahUjiri · Post #17 » by **MessiahUjiri** » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:36 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Does Cole Anthony/Gary Harris/x2 SRP for Brown tickle anyone’s fancy?

I’m not even sure this makes Orlando better, but I’m hoping there’s a little reemergence in Brown.

Make that a swap of worse of DEN/ORL 1st for POR 2nd

That seems very interesting. Fall back from the late 1st to the early 2nd and dump some salary. Seems like smart value.

Altho I think Orlando needs a bench scorer more than a connective guy.

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #18 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:47 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Does Cole Anthony/Gary Harris/x2 SRP for Brown tickle anyone’s fancy?

I’m not even sure this makes Orlando better, but I’m hoping there’s a little reemergence in Brown.

Make that a swap of worse of DEN/ORL 1st for POR 2nd

Ehh I’m not there.

I agree w/ Chuck that even as an expiring he doesn’t carry any true on court value.

Orlando could just wait and see if Toronto buys him out and try their luck in the buyout market (same applies for Brogdon/Seth Curry maybe Russell).