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BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:30 am
by zimpy27
I think BroLo moving may be a key cog int he Beal-Butler-Middelton trade.
So which under the tax teams would have interest?
What is his value?
Re: BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:32 am
by HomoSapien
Not the worst vet for Detroit to add to the mix as they go hard for the playoffs. Duran only plays 25 MPG, so there's room for both of them.
Stewart would be the odd man out, however.
Re: BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:36 am
by zimpy27
HomoSapien wrote:Not the worst vet for Detroit to add to the mix as they go hard for the playoffs. Duran only plays 25 MPG, so there's room for both of them.
Stewart would be the odd man out, however.
Brook for Stewart would be a great fit really. Long contract at reasonable salary for Bucks, younger more athletics player. Saves Bucks $8m to allow them to duck under 2nd apron.
Re: BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:40 am
by zimpy27
Maybe OKC for Wiggins and Kenrich?
Re: BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:05 am
by OxAndFox
Hear me out. DDR to the Bucks. Dame/Beal/DDR/Giannis/Portis
Lopez to the Kings and Sacramento forms the best 3pt shooting big man tandem the world has ever seen. MWAH
Re: BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:09 am
by RiotPunch
OxAndFox wrote:Dame/Beal/DDR

Re: BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:01 am
by jayjaysee
I think you get the 2029 first in a Beal for Midds/Connaughton/Lopez and then add it to whatever you get for Lopez if necessary? The matching is limited but feels like you can at least get Jalen Smith by playing with the smaller salaries on the bench.
Or looking at rookie contracts Sharpe should be available if you believe in him. Maybe try out Aldama if Memphis makes the tough decision? Not what you need but more talented..
Detroit doing Simone+Moore+Toronto 2nd for Lopez+Alec seems to set the other teams up for legal trades.. even if you have to give them back a second or something?
Re: BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:35 am
by axeman23
Maybe I'm off, but I was thinking of a 2-stage deal between Bucks and Cavs? 1st, a 1 for 1 deal, BLo for Levert, then 2ndly, a 3 for 4 deal: Portis, Delon and Beachamp for Niang, TT, Merrill and CPJ. Then Cavs could send their own 2nd/s from 25 and/or 27 to help the Bucks offload whoever needed to go, as there'd be 1 less roster spot. It saves Bucks a good chunk of money over the 2 legs ($11M-ish?), but then Cavs would hope BLo would resign into an exception for a year or 2 if he was up to it, which Levert would never do, needing his last chance at a significant contract. I have no idea about the tax implications, but they're DG's problem, not mine...

Re: BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:49 am
by Skybox
He comes up a lot…but he’s still pretty critical to MIL…Giannis might not get all these rip & run rebound #’s without Brook’s unselfish screens and hard inside work. He’s still a very formidable defender too.
Re: BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:51 am
by zimpy27
jayjaysee wrote:I think you get the 2029 first in a Beal for Midds/Connaughton/Lopez and then add it to whatever you get for Lopez if necessary? The matching is limited but feels like you can at least get Jalen Smith by playing with the smaller salaries on the bench.
Or looking at rookie contracts Sharpe should be available if you believe in him. Maybe try out Aldama if Memphis makes the tough decision? Not what you need but more talented..
Detroit doing Simone+Moore+Toronto 2nd for Lopez+Alec seems to set the other teams up for legal trades.. even if you have to give them back a second or something?
Would Mavs have interest around Gafford for BroLo?
Re: BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:02 pm
by realEAST
I really don't get this premise that Bucks should move Lopez, Middleton for Beal...
I mean, is Beal even better than Middleton alone? And than you count in that contract and the fact he is not even more available than Middleton, so is it really the move you want to make, given Bucks would have to downgrade from Lopez too?
I just don't get it for the Bucks...
Unless you get so many assets that you can get a good replacement for Lopez AND starter level upgrade at wing / forward position - but that means two of those Suns late 1st rounders coming over (one to get replacement for Lopez, and another to get a starting caliber wing / forward) - so what is in there for Miami then?
Not to mention having to actually find players and match those salaries for the Bucks.
I mean, it obviously has been a rumor, but just not sure what to make of it.
Re: BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:04 pm
by realEAST
As for Lopez and his value, if there is something to this rumor, could the Warriors be in the play with Payton, Looney, Andreson and a protected 1st, or three 2nds, or something like that?
Re: BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:16 pm
by jayjaysee
zimpy27 wrote:jayjaysee wrote:I think you get the 2029 first in a Beal for Midds/Connaughton/Lopez and then add it to whatever you get for Lopez if necessary? The matching is limited but feels like you can at least get Jalen Smith by playing with the smaller salaries on the bench.
Or looking at rookie contracts Sharpe should be available if you believe in him. Maybe try out Aldama if Memphis makes the tough decision? Not what you need but more talented..
Detroit doing Simone+Moore+Toronto 2nd for Lopez+Alec seems to set the other teams up for legal trades.. even if you have to give them back a second or something?
Would Mavs have interest around Gafford for BroLo?
Once you add Maxi to make a legal trade, and then maybe ask for value because Maxi is included and you need a third team? The team is probably not interested.
But me personally? Yes if it doesn’t involve a first. He is still a really great player and have to think his contract should reflect his age this offseason, so should be affordable for Dallas to sign him to a two year deal?
Re: BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:23 pm
by jbk1234
axeman23 wrote:Maybe I'm off, but I was thinking of a 2-stage deal between Bucks and Cavs? 1st, a 1 for 1 deal, BLo for Levert, then 2ndly, a 3 for 4 deal: Portis, Delon and Beachamp for Niang, TT, Merrill and CPJ. Then Cavs could send their own 2nd/s from 25 and/or 27 to help the Bucks offload whoever needed to go, as there'd be 1 less roster spot. It saves Bucks a good chunk of money over the 2 legs ($11M-ish?), but then Cavs would hope BLo would resign into an exception for a year or 2 if he was up to it, which Levert would never do, needing his last chance at a significant contract. I have no idea about the tax implications, but they're DG's problem, not mine...

The Bucks will have a very thin front court already if they trade BroLo (especially for a wing). I don't see them following that up with a Portis trade where the first two bigs off the bench will be TT and Niang. This is pretty brutal for them.
Re: BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:58 pm
by Texas Chuck
jayjaysee wrote:zimpy27 wrote:jayjaysee wrote:I think you get the 2029 first in a Beal for Midds/Connaughton/Lopez and then add it to whatever you get for Lopez if necessary? The matching is limited but feels like you can at least get Jalen Smith by playing with the smaller salaries on the bench.
Or looking at rookie contracts Sharpe should be available if you believe in him. Maybe try out Aldama if Memphis makes the tough decision? Not what you need but more talented..
Detroit doing Simone+Moore+Toronto 2nd for Lopez+Alec seems to set the other teams up for legal trades.. even if you have to give them back a second or something?
Would Mavs have interest around Gafford for BroLo?
Once you add Maxi to make a legal trade, and then maybe ask for value because Maxi is included and you need a third team? The team is probably not interested.
But me personally? Yes if it doesn’t involve a first. He is still a really great player and have to think his contract should reflect his age this offseason, so should be affordable for Dallas to sign him to a two year deal?
Would love BroLo. And yeah Dallas could pay him for 2 years before Lively needs a new deal. Don't think its realistic, but sign me way up.
Re: BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:04 pm
by jayjaysee
Texas Chuck wrote:jayjaysee wrote:zimpy27 wrote:
Would Mavs have interest around Gafford for BroLo?
Once you add Maxi to make a legal trade, and then maybe ask for value because Maxi is included and you need a third team? The team is probably not interested.
But me personally? Yes if it doesn’t involve a first. He is still a really great player and have to think his contract should reflect his age this offseason, so should be affordable for Dallas to sign him to a two year deal?
Would love BroLo. And yeah Dallas could pay him for 2 years before Lively needs a new deal. Don't think its realistic, but sign me way up.
Yeah, how that helps a Beal/Butler/Middleton deal? I have no idea…
Gafford to ”Det”
Middleton+Maxi+Philly 2nd to Miami
That takes care of the cap issues for Miami and Maxi could be a decent roster fit for Miami, with the early 2nd?
But that doesn’t help Milwaukee’s center rotation.
Re: BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:18 pm
by oldncreaky
For DET, there' no way I'd move Stewart for a BroLo who is near the end of his career
The most I would offer an expiring THJ and maybe a SRP or 2 -- preferably after we've used our cap space on a backup PG
Re: BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:39 pm
by MoneyTalks41890
I’d love to have him on OKC. Unfortunately I’m not sure it makes the most sense with Hart now.
Re: BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:05 pm
by MoneyTalks41890
MIL out: Midds, Brook, Connaughton
MIL in: Beal, Dunn, Moore, pick(s)
DET out: THjr, Moore
DET in: Brook, Connaughton
PHX out: Beal, Dunn, some picks
PHX in: Butler, Burks
MIA out: Butler, Burks
MIA in: Midds, THjr, pick(s)
Re: BroLo value? Who wants him?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:08 pm
by Texas Chuck
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:MIL out: Midds, Brook, Connaughton
MIL in: Beal, Dunn, Moore, pick(s)
DET out: THjr, Moore
DET in: Brook, Connaughton
PHX out: Beal, Dunn, some picks
PHX in: Butler, Burks
MIA out: Butler, Burks
MIA in: Midds, THjr, pick(s)
I think BroLo has more value than just dumping Pat C, but that's all Miami is getting out of including Detroit. I think if Detroit doesn't value him, it needs a team that would, right?