GSW/BKN/WAS/PHI

[nykballa2k4]

Warriors trade GP, Anderson, Looney, 3 FRP (25, 27, 29 no protections)
Warriors get Cam Johnson, Sharpe, GSW 2030 (from WAS)
Rationale: Warriors either have to pivot to life after Curry or get the best fit available to make the most out of the team they have. This is clearly the latter. Getting back the protected pick in 2030 opens up all the other picks for trade. They can chose to have a tank year when Curry/Green expire, but they might be too good if the core (Pods/Moody/Kuminga/Johnson) thrive. At present, they will possess the closest thing to a death-lineup since KD with Green-Cam-Wiggins-Mood/Podz-Curry. It's a high cost, but the team should be competitive.

Nets trade Cam Johnson, D. Sharpe
get Holmes, GP, J. Davis, GSW FRP (25, 29 both unprotected)
Rationale: taking back expirings, getting a higher variance 2029 pick. Warriors 2025 pick could be lotto, won't be a very late pick for sure. Kick the tires on Johnny Davis though there isn't likely anything to see there.

Wizards trade Holmes, DAvis, Bey, GSW 2030
get Kyle Anderson, Looney, Martin jr, GSW 2027, 2029 SRP Philly
Rationale: Adding some vets can be good for a young team. Adding in a guaranteed FRP with decent variance is always a good move, SRP could be a good one by the end of the Embiid era.

PHI
trade KMJ, SRP
get Bey

Rationale: Bey is a decent 2 way player, good shooter/scorer, has size. Villanova product.
Bey has played small ball 4 and with spacing.

[Texas Chuck]

Cam Johnson is worth nothing close to this. I have this a massive overpay by the Warriors. He likely doesn't even get them into the top 6 and now you've given up 3 unprotected 1sts (two of them post Curry/Draymond)? Yikes no.

[NW]

Yeah, I like Cam Johnson but he isn't worth close to this for GS and doesn't make them nowhere near good enough to justify it. Hard pass.

[nate33]

Sure. I'd do it from Washington's standpoint.

Ignore expiring contracts and non-guaranteed future money and this is essentially two years of Saddiq Bey at $6.3M per year for one year of Kyle Anderson at $9.2M. And the reward is the swap of a heavily-protected GSW 2030 pick for an unprotected GSW 2027 pick, and a PHI SRP. What's not to like?

[JKiddy]

This is the trade GS needs to make. The issue is the players BK gets back are nearly worthless. But, the picks might be good. I am unsure if BK wants another 2025 pick once they give CamJo to GS they know it will only make GS better. Maybe we change the 2025 pick for 2026 and it’s 2026 and 2028. I think since BK has 4 picks in 2025 they would want other years. I think with this minor adjustment it’s more than fair for both sides. I can see BK wanting a 2nd or something on top which is not a big deal whatsoever here.

Good work.

[Onus]

There’s no world cam j is worth 3 picks especially not from gsw post steph.

No one is giving 2 1sts. Bkn is going to settle for 1.

[nykballa2k4]

Cam Johnson is worth nothing close to this. I have this a massive overpay by the Warriors. He likely doesn't even get them into the top 6 and now you've given up 3 unprotected 1sts (two of them post Curry/Draymond)? Yikes no.

Well, overall, the sticking point, AKA the reason Cam johnson is not dealt yet, is Nets are looking for an overpay. I don't think they take just 1 FRP.

[NW]

Cam Johnson is worth nothing close to this. I have this a massive overpay by the Warriors. He likely doesn't even get them into the top 6 and now you've given up 3 unprotected 1sts (two of them post Curry/Draymond)? Yikes no.

Well, overall, the sticking point, AKA the reason Cam johnson is not dealt yet, is Nets are looking for an overpay. I don't think they take just 1 FRP.

Then Cam Johnson will keep his Brooklyn address and I think all parties will keep it moving

[xdrta+]

Aside from the overpay, these numbers don't work for the Warriors. After accounting for Johnson and Looney's unlikely incentives, the Warriors end up about $3.7M over their hard cap.

[thejigglyroom]

Cam Johnson is worth nothing close to this. I have this a massive overpay by the Warriors. He likely doesn't even get them into the top 6 and now you've given up 3 unprotected 1sts (two of them post Curry/Draymond)? Yikes no.

Well, overall, the sticking point, AKA the reason Cam johnson is not dealt yet, is Nets are looking for an overpay. I don't think they take just 1 FRP.

So he’s still with the Nets because no one wants to overpay for him so you suggest the Warriors step in to overpay for him? I guess someone has to do it right? Huh?

[nykballa2k4]

Cam Johnson is worth nothing close to this. I have this a massive overpay by the Warriors. He likely doesn't even get them into the top 6 and now you've given up 3 unprotected 1sts (two of them post Curry/Draymond)? Yikes no.

Well, overall, the sticking point, AKA the reason Cam johnson is not dealt yet, is Nets are looking for an overpay. I don't think they take just 1 FRP.

So he’s still with the Nets because no one wants to overpay for him so you suggest the Warriors step in to overpay for him? I guess someone has to do it right? Huh?

Listen, you saw what the Knicks paid for Bridges. This is like 1/4 of the price.

Candidly, the Warriors are in no mans land. They have had a tough hand with injuries. So either just take the play-in and trade Curry/Green over the summer or you have to make a splash move at this deadline.

Best players available are:
Randle, Ingram, Zion, Butler, Beal, Lavine, Cam, Vuc, outside chance of LaMelo Ball
Let's assess fit for a moment:
I love Randle for the Warriors in place of Draymond, but I don't see that swap materializing at this point.
Ingram has injury issues and wants a MAX. So attainable, but will kill your cap.
Zion the flying meatball is a HUGE risk. literally
Butler is a poor fit, wants a giant paycheck, and plays 2/3 of the games when not pissy
Beal great splash replacement, however contract means you have to lose all depth to get him.
Lavine see above
Cam johnson - have to deal with the Nets and their expectations.
Vuc Bulls want FRP compensation for an outlier season. So overpay AND not a needle mover.
Ball interesting fit with Curry, but GSW probably won't have the assets to make it work.

My logic as someone who wants to see the WArriors make a run an remain competitive - bite the bullet, get Cam, make sure you preserve the younger core so that those picks are nothing you would miss. I think adding Sharpe (good big body center, replacement level but useful) and Cam check off all the boxes and even without the two old men you have Podz-Moody-Wiggins-Cam-Sharpe

[NW]

Well, overall, the sticking point, AKA the reason Cam johnson is not dealt yet, is Nets are looking for an overpay. I don't think they take just 1 FRP.

So he’s still with the Nets because no one wants to overpay for him so you suggest the Warriors step in to overpay for him? I guess someone has to do it right? Huh?

Listen, you saw what the Knicks paid for Bridges. This is like 1/4 of the price.

Candidly, the Warriors are in no mans land. They have had a tough hand with injuries. So either just take the play-in and trade Curry/Green over the summer or you have to make a splash move at this deadline.

Best players available are:
Randle, Ingram, Zion, Butler, Beal, Lavine, Cam, Vuc, outside chance of LaMelo Ball
Let's assess fit for a moment:
I love Randle for the Warriors in place of Draymond, but I don't see that swap materializing at this point.
Ingram has injury issues and wants a MAX. So attainable, but will kill your cap.
Zion the flying meatball is a HUGE risk. literally
Butler is a poor fit, wants a giant paycheck, and plays 2/3 of the games when not pissy
Beal great splash replacement, however contract means you have to lose all depth to get him.
Lavine see above
Cam johnson - have to deal with the Nets and their expectations.
Vuc Bulls want FRP compensation for an outlier season. So overpay AND not a needle mover.
Ball interesting fit with Curry, but GSW probably won't have the assets to make it work.

My logic as someone who wants to see the WArriors make a run an remain competitive - bite the bullet, get Cam, make sure you preserve the younger core so that those picks are nothing you would miss. I think adding Sharpe (good big body center, replacement level but useful) and Cam check off all the boxes and even without the two old men you have Podz-Moody-Wiggins-Cam-Sharpe

Cam Johnson is not a splash move
Cam Johnson is nowhere near Mikel Bridges and the outlying factors with the Knicks that led to that trade
The idea that the picks wouldn’t be missed cause of the young core is comical imo. Warriors young core is lottery bound without Steph.

Warriors aren’t in no man’s land. They’ve made the direction pretty clear-hopefully use the combination of expirings, 2nds and MAYBE a protected first to make some incremental improvements (Vuc etc.) to get to the playoffs in a West that’s basically OKC and a ton of teams bunched together who all have issues of their own. Then keep the powder dry for an offseason pursuit of a bigger name same as last offseason when they went after PG13 and Lauri.

Cam Johnson is a guy who is a good player and nice fit to any playoff contender but isn’t going to substantially move the needle. Definitely not move it for more than a first rounder

[GQ Hot Dog]

Aside from the overpay, these numbers don't work for the Warriors. After accounting for Johnson and Looney's unlikely incentives, the Warriors end up about $3.7M over their hard cap.

Additionally, the Warriors have traded their 2030 1st so the 2029 1st is unable to be traded.

[JKiddy]

Many NBA and especially Knicks fans know that Cam Johnson is much closer to Mikal Bridges than you assume. Even Bridges himself would admit it now. He is one of those real guys who is honest. I do not know if GS will make the deal they need to stay relevant. But, if they got Cam Johnson they sure as hell would be much better this and next year before Steph is gone.

[nykballa2k4]

Aside from the overpay, these numbers don't work for the Warriors. After accounting for Johnson and Looney's unlikely incentives, the Warriors end up about $3.7M over their hard cap.

Additionally, the Warriors have traded their 2030 1st so the 2029 1st is unable to be traded.

a) ran it through the checker. Only about 500K was added, so should not be a problem. Also Looney is dealt in the deal so that's null and void.

b) The 2030 pick issue is why WAS is returning that pick. (they are flipping the low-upside FRP 2030 for a legit upside 2027)

[nykballa2k4]

Many NBA and especially Knicks fans know that Cam Johnson is much closer to Mikal Bridges than you assume. Even Bridges himself would admit it now. He is one of those real guys who is honest. I do not know if GS will make the deal they need to stay relevant. But, if they got Cam Johnson they sure as hell would be much better this and next year before Steph is gone.

After watching Cam on some of those catch and shoot 3's, quick release, the thought of seeing him in a splash-heavy environment is enticing.

[xdrta+]

Aside from the overpay, these numbers don't work for the Warriors. After accounting for Johnson and Looney's unlikely incentives, the Warriors end up about $3.7M over their hard cap.

a) ran it through the checker. Only about 500K was added, so should not be a problem. Also Looney is dealt in the deal so that's null and void.

I don't know what you mean by null and void, but Johnson has $4.5M in unlikely incentives, and Looney has $1M. That's $3.5M you have to add to the Warrior apron total. That puts them $3.7M over their hard cap.

[nykballa2k4]

Aside from the overpay, these numbers don't work for the Warriors. After accounting for Johnson and Looney's unlikely incentives, the Warriors end up about $3.7M over their hard cap.

a) ran it through the checker. Only about 500K was added, so should not be a problem. Also Looney is dealt in the deal so that's null and void.

I don't know what you mean by null and void, but Johnson has $4.5M in unlikely incentives, and Looney has $1M. That's $3.5M you have to add to the Warrior apron total. That puts them $3.7M over their hard cap.

if Looney is on the Wizards, does that still apply?
Also -- what does it technically matter if by seasons end if Cam johnson gets his max of unlikely incentives? Does the team move to Seattle? Do they forfeit picks?

Unless there is a real reason like -- the trade is illegal, this is a non-issue.

[xdrta+]

a) ran it through the checker. Only about 500K was added, so should not be a problem. Also Looney is dealt in the deal so that's null and void.

I don't know what you mean by null and void, but Johnson has $4.5M in unlikely incentives, and Looney has $1M. That's $3.5M you have to add to the Warrior apron total. That puts them $3.7M over their hard cap.

if Looney is on the Wizards, does that still apply?
Also -- what does it technically matter if by seasons end if Cam johnson gets his max of unlikely incentives? Does the team move to Seattle? Do they forfeit picks?

Unless there is a real reason like -- the trade is illegal, this is a non-issue.

None of that matters. This only applies to the Warriors and their hard cap at the end of the trade. It doesn't apply to matching salaries either, but after the trade, when the Warrior team salary is computed, unlikely incentives are added in. When that happens they can't be over the hard cap. So, in effect, Johnson's salary becomes $27,000,000 for that purpose only.

The trade may look legal, but from the Warriors side they can't do it because it puts them over the hard cap. It's very difficult for the Warriors to trade for Johnson.

[giberish]

Even if Isiah Thomas was advising the Warriors (as opposed to the Suns) I think he'd have issues with this.

3 unprotected 1sts - likely with 2 in the lottery and possibly all 3 - is insane.

If Cam Johnson is getting 3 1sts it would be 3 picks like the ones Utah traded to Phoenix - and IMO even that's a reach. IMO both the 2027 and 2029 1sts are individually at least as valuable as those 3 put together.