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WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 10:19 pm
by Bentley1225
Ill offer this idea for:
-Lakers to add a big
-Blazers land a 1st for Williams

To Los Angeles Lakers
-Robert Williams III (2 years, $25.7 million)
-2027 Portland 2nd round pick
-2031 Portland 2nd round pick

To Portland (waive Walker)
-Gabe Vincent (2 years, $22.5 million)
-Cam Reddish (1 year, $2.4 million)
-2031 Lakers 1st (some form of protection or extinguished)


Why?
-The Lakers use end of bench players/contracts to land a guy who could potentially start as they Lakers dont have any bigs under contract for next season.
-The Blazers clear up glut of 5s as they get back a distant protected 1st

Re: WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 10:23 pm
by redslastlaugh
From Portland point of view, can’t take on Gabe Vincent’s money and pay seconds for the chance at a Lakers pick or nothing if it falls under protection. If the Lakers pick was unprotected it’d be a risk for Lakers but fair with Rob plus seconds coming back. So no go on a protected pick

Re: WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 10:23 pm
by OutsidetheNBA
Very bad for the Lakers -- beyond the value of the 2031 pick, there is the opportunity cost of not being able to use it in a future trade for a star. No way they should lock-up that pick for a back-up center.

Re: WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:56 pm
by JRoy
Pass for POR.

Too much for too little.

Re: WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:08 am
by Walton1one
This is not a deal POR should pursue. If LAL wants to offer up a protected 1st that either descends in protections (1-14\1-8\1-3) or if unable to convey turns into multiple 2nd's, maybe that could work. But a 31' with protections that turns into nothing? I don't see them going for that.

Re: WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:23 am
by cucad8
I think a lot would be determined by the protections and how quickly it extinguishes to nothing. But it's not an immediate no from me.

Re: WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:26 am
by Dez
JRoy wrote:Pass for POR.

Too much for too little.


What?

They get a 1st pick for a borderline cripple.

It's laughable how you value Portland's assets.

Re: WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:27 am
by ejftw
Dez wrote:
JRoy wrote:Pass for POR.

Too much for too little.


What?

They get a 1st pick for a borderline cripple.

It's laughable how you value Portland's assets.


They give up two seconds, take on Vincent (to replace another cripple) for a first that they may not get?

Re: WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:35 am
by JRoy
Dez wrote:
JRoy wrote:Pass for POR.

Too much for too little.


What?

They get a 1st pick for a borderline cripple.

It's laughable how you value Portland's assets.


RW3 and 2 SRP for a bad contract and pick that may not happen. One of us does overvalue assets and it isn’t me.

Re: WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:40 am
by Dez
ejftw wrote:
Dez wrote:
JRoy wrote:Pass for POR.

Too much for too little.


What?

They get a 1st pick for a borderline cripple.

It's laughable how you value Portland's assets.


They give up two seconds, take on Vincent (to replace another cripple) for a first that they may not get?


So what? What else are they going to use cap space on? It's Portland.

Potentially getting a first is worth it.

Re: WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:42 am
by Myth
Those protections better be very light, because if we get no pick, we just paid for a player we are less interested in than RWIII. Or moderate protections and the removal of the 2nds going to the Lakers.

Re: WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:44 am
by Myth
Dez wrote:
ejftw wrote:
Dez wrote:
What?

They get a 1st pick for a borderline cripple.

It's laughable how you value Portland's assets.


They give up two seconds, take on Vincent (to replace another cripple) for a first that they may not get?


So what? What else are they going to use cap space on? It's Portland.

Potentially getting a first is worth it.

Giving up 2nds and giving away RWIII for potentially nothing of interest is not.

Re: WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:45 am
by JRoy
Dez wrote:
ejftw wrote:
Dez wrote:
What?

They get a 1st pick for a borderline cripple.

It's laughable how you value Portland's assets.


They give up two seconds, take on Vincent (to replace another cripple) for a first that they may not get?


So what? What else are they going to use cap space on? It's Portland.

Potentially getting a first is worth it.


Of course you would say that.

Pass for POR.

Re: WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:53 am
by zimpy27
Vincent+Knecht
For
RW3+Banton

Re: WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:59 am
by Myth
zimpy27 wrote:Vincent+Knecht
For
RW3+Banton

That’s an easy yes for Portland. I’d throw those 2nds back in.

Re: WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:04 am
by Dez
Myth wrote:
Dez wrote:
ejftw wrote:
They give up two seconds, take on Vincent (to replace another cripple) for a first that they may not get?


So what? What else are they going to use cap space on? It's Portland.

Potentially getting a first is worth it.

Giving up 2nds and giving away RWIII for potentially nothing of interest is not.


He's played 23 games in 2 seasons at Portland, he's worth nothing and the 2nds are worthless.

Re: WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:18 am
by JRoy
Dez wrote:
Myth wrote:
Dez wrote:
So what? What else are they going to use cap space on? It's Portland.

Potentially getting a first is worth it.

Giving up 2nds and giving away RWIII for potentially nothing of interest is not.


He's played 23 games in 2 seasons at Portland, he's worth nothing and the 2nds are worthless.


Guess POR may as well keep him.

Re: WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:25 am
by ejftw
Dez wrote:
ejftw wrote:
Dez wrote:
What?

They get a 1st pick for a borderline cripple.

It's laughable how you value Portland's assets.


They give up two seconds, take on Vincent (to replace another cripple) for a first that they may not get?


So what? What else are they going to use cap space on? It's Portland.

Potentially getting a first is worth it.


Great logic, I agree. Any team with a good pending free agent should just trade him to the Clippers, as they are the LA team that's made the marquee free agent signings most recently!

Re: WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:59 am
by Pattycakes
Blazers can just keep their vets, they don’t have to just hand them away to the first takers :)

Re: WIlliams to Lakers

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:20 pm
by Myth
Pattycakes wrote:Blazers can just keep their vets, they don’t have to just hand them away to the first takers :)

I’m ready to with some, just not RWIII.