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Collins Kessler Mills 4
Looney Payton Anderson Pods TJD

Jazz lose Kessler but add pods who Flagg would love to play with and a young cheap center replacement

Warriors add much needed size.

fluffhead wrote:Collins Kessler Mills 4
Looney Payton Anderson Pods TJD

Jazz lose Kessler but add pods who Flagg would love to play with and a young cheap center replacement

Warriors add much needed size.

It's a well known secret Flagg wants to play for Charlotte. He literally practices in throwback Hornets gym shorts.

fluffhead wrote:Collins Kessler Mills 4
Looney Payton Anderson Pods TJD

Jazz lose Kessler but add pods who Flagg would love to play with and a young cheap center replacement

Warriors add much needed size.

I don't think this is something the Jazz would consider.

I'm guessing the OP thinks getting out of the last year of Collins holds a lot of value for Utah? Because I don't think anyone believes Podz holds as much value as Kessler. Last year, that's the start of something with 2 years of bad Collins on the books and Podz having an interesting rookies year and Kessler a disappointing second year. But Kessler is having a much better year than Podz and Collins is playing as well as he ever has, plus its just one year left.

I have this at least one 1st short on value before we even get into how little interest Utah seems to have in trading him.

Texas Chuck wrote:I'm guessing the OP thinks getting out of the last year of Collins holds a lot of value for Utah? Because I don't think anyone believes Podz holds as much value as Kessler. Last year, that's the start of something with 2 years of bad Collins on the books and Podz having an interesting rookies year and Kessler a disappointing second year. But Kessler is having a much better year than Podz and Collins is playing as well as he ever has, plus its just one year left.

I have this at least one 1st short on value before we even get into how little interest Utah seems to have in trading him.

Honestly, I don't know who holds more value between WK and Podz.
Podz has had a down year, for sure, but I don't think I would assume that type of value. WK will also be a FA, so to some extent the worry he becomes a 25M dollar player (think Nic Claxton) should scare some.

nykballa2k4 wrote:

Texas Chuck wrote:I'm guessing the OP thinks getting out of the last year of Collins holds a lot of value for Utah? Because I don't think anyone believes Podz holds as much value as Kessler. Last year, that's the start of something with 2 years of bad Collins on the books and Podz having an interesting rookies year and Kessler a disappointing second year. But Kessler is having a much better year than Podz and Collins is playing as well as he ever has, plus its just one year left.

I have this at least one 1st short on value before we even get into how little interest Utah seems to have in trading him.

Honestly, I don't know who holds more value between WK and Podz.
Podz has had a down year, for sure, but I don't think I would assume that type of value. WK will also be a FA, so to some extent the worry he becomes a 25M dollar player (think Nic Claxton) should scare some.

Shouldn't the same concern hold true for Podz, albeit deferred by a year... especially when coming off a (very) bad year?

I feel like adding Collins and Kessler is a bit overkill for GS. Perhaps a deal just for Collins makes sense. Leave Kessler/Podz/TJD out of the deal.

Texas Chuck wrote:I'm guessing the OP thinks getting out of the last year of Collins holds a lot of value for Utah? Because I don't think anyone believes Podz holds as much value as Kessler. Last year, that's the start of something with 2 years of bad Collins on the books and Podz having an interesting rookies year and Kessler a disappointing second year. But Kessler is having a much better year than Podz and Collins is playing as well as he ever has, plus its just one year left.

I have this at least one 1st short on value before we even get into how little interest Utah seems to have in trading him.

What he said. Utah passes.

We don't need another guard. I don't really know why the FO expressed interest in Podz in the first place - he is not bad - we simply don't need more guards.

giberish wrote:I feel like adding Collins and Kessler is a bit overkill for GS. Perhaps a deal just for Collins makes sense. Leave Kessler/Podz/TJD out of the deal.

I'd do Collins for Wiggins and a pick swap.

babyjax13 wrote:

giberish wrote:I feel like adding Collins and Kessler is a bit overkill for GS. Perhaps a deal just for Collins makes sense. Leave Kessler/Podz/TJD out of the deal.

I'd do Collins for Wiggins and a pick swap.

If the Jazz get Wiggins your quote will become reality and you will have to admit aliens had to do with JFK. Just saying.

Daddy 801 wrote:

babyjax13 wrote:

giberish wrote:I feel like adding Collins and Kessler is a bit overkill for GS. Perhaps a deal just for Collins makes sense. Leave Kessler/Podz/TJD out of the deal.

I'd do Collins for Wiggins and a pick swap.

If the Jazz get Wiggins your quote will become reality and you will have to admit aliens had to do with JFK. Just saying.

I will quote your quote if it happens, lmao

I think both teams pass on this. Kessler is probably the most valuable young guy in the deal but I'm not all that high on him TBH, especially with him looking for an extension this offseason. If Utah wants expirings for Collins that's a simpler/cleaner deal.

gswhoops wrote:I think both teams pass on this. Kessler is probably the most valuable young guy in the deal but I'm not all that high on him TBH, especially with him looking for an extension this offseason. If Utah wants expirings for Collins that's a simpler/cleaner deal.

Can Dennis Schröder be aggregated before the deadline. Fanspo says that the restriction expires after Feb 15, 2025, but I'm not sure if that's correct.

SkyHook wrote:

gswhoops wrote:I think both teams pass on this. Kessler is probably the most valuable young guy in the deal but I'm not all that high on him TBH, especially with him looking for an extension this offseason. If Utah wants expirings for Collins that's a simpler/cleaner deal.

Can Dennis Schröder be aggregated before the deadline. Fanspo says that the restriction expires after Feb 15, 2025, but I'm not sure if that's correct.

I don't think so, but I'm not 100% on that

SkyHook wrote:

gswhoops wrote:I think both teams pass on this. Kessler is probably the most valuable young guy in the deal but I'm not all that high on him TBH, especially with him looking for an extension this offseason. If Utah wants expirings for Collins that's a simpler/cleaner deal.

Can Dennis Schröder be aggregated before the deadline. Fanspo says that the restriction expires after Feb 15, 2025, but I'm not sure if that's correct.

He can be aggregated Feb 5, one day before the deadline.

xdrta+ wrote:

SkyHook wrote:

gswhoops wrote:I think both teams pass on this. Kessler is probably the most valuable young guy in the deal but I'm not all that high on him TBH, especially with him looking for an extension this offseason. If Utah wants expirings for Collins that's a simpler/cleaner deal.

Can Dennis Schröder be aggregated before the deadline. Fanspo says that the restriction expires after Feb 15, 2025, but I'm not sure if that's correct.

He can be aggregated Feb 5, one day before the deadline.

So, Collins for Schröder, Payton & Looney?

SkyHook wrote:

xdrta+ wrote:

SkyHook wrote:
Can Dennis Schröder be aggregated before the deadline. Fanspo says that the restriction expires after Feb 15, 2025, but I'm not sure if that's correct.

He can be aggregated Feb 5, one day before the deadline.

So, Collins for Schröder, Payton & Looney?

I'd be down for that depending on what else was out there at the deadline. I'd probably prefer to make a move for Vuc tbh but Collins isn't a bad fall back option.