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Cleveland: Lavert, Niang, Thor, top 2 protected 2031 1st rd pick

Nets: Johnson and Sharpe

Cavs get a couple guys that help in the now and Brooklyn gets a very lightly protected 1st and cap space for next year to help them pursue max free agents.

I am just going to assume that you are talking about Keon Johnson and say that the Nets would say yes.

Not only is this not enough for Cam Johnson but you have the Nets throwing in Sharpe for no reason.

How about we just trade for Sharpe.

jbk1234 wrote:How about we just trade for Sharpe.

Sharpe has improved this year and really hustles when he is on the court.

drchaos wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:How about we just trade for Sharpe.

Sharpe has improved this year and really hustles when he is on the court.

He's also on an expiring contract and doesn't come with Bird Rights. This would strictly be a rental for the Cavs (or any playoff team tbh.) I'd just like to add a credible defensive big to the bench.

jbk1234 wrote:

drchaos wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:How about we just trade for Sharpe.

Sharpe has improved this year and really hustles when he is on the court.

He's also on an expiring contract and doesn't come with Bird Rights. This would strictly be a rental for the Cavs (or any playoff team tbh.) I'd just like to add a credible defensive big to the bench.

Sharpe is a restricted free agent at the end of he season, he is not just a rental.

jbk1234 wrote:

drchaos wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:How about we just trade for Sharpe.

Sharpe has improved this year and really hustles when he is on the court.

He's also on an expiring contract and doesn't come with Bird Rights. This would strictly be a rental for the Cavs (or any playoff team tbh.) I'd just like to add a credible defensive big to the bench.

Day'Ron Sharpe is on the 4th year of a rookie scale contract. He has, and conveys, with full Bird Rights.

drchaos wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:How about we just trade for Sharpe.

Sharpe has improved this year and really hustles when he is on the court.

Hes shooting poorly vs before. Block % is down. What part of his game improved?

Godaddycurse wrote:

drchaos wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:How about we just trade for Sharpe.

Sharpe has improved this year and really hustles when he is on the court.

Hes shooting poorly vs before. Block % is down. What part of his game improved?

The Nets are tanking and have played many minutes this year without competent point guard play,

All of the big me including Sharpe play better when Russell is on the court.

Whenever he is out or on the bench, suddenly all of the oxygen goes out of the room.

drchaos wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:

drchaos wrote:
Sharpe has improved this year and really hustles when he is on the court.

He's also on an expiring contract and doesn't come with Bird Rights. This would strictly be a rental for the Cavs (or any playoff team tbh.) I'd just like to add a credible defensive big to the bench.

Sharpe is a restricted free agent at the end of he season, he is not just a rental.

True, Day'ron Sharpe is an RFA in July. But are his bird rights worth much? Will he earn a contract above the taxpayer-MLE?

I've got Sharpe as a 4th or 5th big on a team as good as CLE, a RS minutes-eater and a role they would be crazy to spend significant money on. I also wonder how much money the Nets would match given that they want to keep their cap sheet clean for 2026. Some teams might be willing to give him a look, especially if they've been hit with injuries and need the immediate depth, but that's maybe worth a so-so SRP

If Day'ron won't get paid more than the taxpayer MLE (roughly $5.7M next season) as a FA, then CLE will pay little or nothing for him in trade.

oldncreaky wrote:

drchaos wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:
He's also on an expiring contract and doesn't come with Bird Rights. This would strictly be a rental for the Cavs (or any playoff team tbh.) I'd just like to add a credible defensive big to the bench.

Sharpe is a restricted free agent at the end of he season, he is not just a rental.

True, Day'ron Sharpe is an RFA in July. But are his bird rights worth much? Will he earn a contract above the taxpayer-MLE?

I've got Sharpe as a 4th or 5th big on a team as good as CLE, a RS minutes-eater and a role they would be crazy to spend significant money on. I also wonder how much money the Nets would match given that they want to keep their cap sheet clean for 2026. Some teams might be willing to give him a look, especially if they've been hit with injuries and need the immediate depth, but that's maybe worth a so-so SRP

If Day'ron won't get paid more than the taxpayer MLE (roughly $5.7M next season) as a FA, then CLE will pay little or nothing for him in trade.

There’s still a benefit in trading for a guy and being able to use bird rights, while preserving their MLE for other uses, if need be.

Scoot McGroot wrote:

oldncreaky wrote:

drchaos wrote:
Sharpe is a restricted free agent at the end of he season, he is not just a rental.

True, Day'ron Sharpe is an RFA in July. But are his bird rights worth much? Will he earn a contract above the taxpayer-MLE?

I've got Sharpe as a 4th or 5th big on a team as good as CLE, a RS minutes-eater and a role they would be crazy to spend significant money on. I also wonder how much money the Nets would match given that they want to keep their cap sheet clean for 2026. Some teams might be willing to give him a look, especially if they've been hit with injuries and need the immediate depth, but that's maybe worth a so-so SRP

If Day'ron won't get paid more than the taxpayer MLE (roughly $5.7M next season) as a FA, then CLE will pay little or nothing for him in trade.

There’s still a benefit in trading for a guy and being able to use bird rights, while preserving their MLE for other uses, if need be.

True. But the Cavs right now have 10 players under contract for $192M next year, and that effectively gets them above the first apron even if they fill out the roster just with min-salary players

I just don't see them investing much in a 4th or 5th big. IMO they are, primarily, looking for a cheap rental because they look/play small whenever they are missing one of Mobley/Allen/Wade

oldncreaky wrote:

Scoot McGroot wrote:

oldncreaky wrote:
True, Day'ron Sharpe is an RFA in July. But are his bird rights worth much? Will he earn a contract above the taxpayer-MLE?

I've got Sharpe as a 4th or 5th big on a team as good as CLE, a RS minutes-eater and a role they would be crazy to spend significant money on. I also wonder how much money the Nets would match given that they want to keep their cap sheet clean for 2026. Some teams might be willing to give him a look, especially if they've been hit with injuries and need the immediate depth, but that's maybe worth a so-so SRP

If Day'ron won't get paid more than the taxpayer MLE (roughly $5.7M next season) as a FA, then CLE will pay little or nothing for him in trade.

There’s still a benefit in trading for a guy and being able to use bird rights, while preserving their MLE for other uses, if need be.

True. But the Cavs right now have 10 players under contract for $192M next year, and that effectively gets them above the first apron even if they fill out the roster just with min-salary players

I just don't see them investing much in a 4th or 5th big. IMO they are, primarily, looking for a cheap rental because they look/play small whenever they are missing one of Mobley/Allen/Wade

I expect the Cavs to be opportunistic with the buyout market, similar to picking up Morris last season. I'm not a big fan of giving up assets for an end of bench big who in all likelihood will contribute nothing in the Playoffs.

mcfly1204 wrote:

oldncreaky wrote:

Scoot McGroot wrote:

There’s still a benefit in trading for a guy and being able to use bird rights, while preserving their MLE for other uses, if need be.

True. But the Cavs right now have 10 players under contract for $192M next year, and that effectively gets them above the first apron even if they fill out the roster just with min-salary players

I just don't see them investing much in a 4th or 5th big. IMO they are, primarily, looking for a cheap rental because they look/play small whenever they are missing one of Mobley/Allen/Wade

I expect the Cavs to be opportunistic with the buyout market, similar to picking up Morris last season. I'm not a big fan of giving up assets for an end of bench big who in all likelihood will contribute nothing in the Playoffs.

How did relying on Danny Green and Morris as backups work out the last two playoff runs?Trading for a guy like Sharpe allows us to start Wade at SF in certain matchups. Also, Wade has been injured in the last two playoff runs. Finally, I'm terrified about the prospect of Kenny playing Niang real minutes in the playoffs.

oldncreaky wrote:

drchaos wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:
He's also on an expiring contract and doesn't come with Bird Rights. This would strictly be a rental for the Cavs (or any playoff team tbh.) I'd just like to add a credible defensive big to the bench.

Sharpe is a restricted free agent at the end of he season, he is not just a rental.

True, Day'ron Sharpe is an RFA in July. But are his bird rights worth much? Will he earn a contract above the taxpayer-MLE?

I've got Sharpe as a 4th or 5th big on a team as good as CLE, a RS minutes-eater and a role they would be crazy to spend significant money on. I also wonder how much money the Nets would match given that they want to keep their cap sheet clean for 2026. Some teams might be willing to give him a look, especially if they've been hit with injuries and need the immediate depth, but that's maybe worth a so-so SRP

If Day'ron won't get paid more than the taxpayer MLE (roughly $5.7M next season) as a FA, then CLE will pay little or nothing for him in trade.

It is hard to tell with young guys.

On the floor with a real point guard and three other quality starters he might surprise you.

His hustle could also inspire his teammates.

jbk1234 wrote:

mcfly1204 wrote:

oldncreaky wrote:
True. But the Cavs right now have 10 players under contract for $192M next year, and that effectively gets them above the first apron even if they fill out the roster just with min-salary players

I just don't see them investing much in a 4th or 5th big. IMO they are, primarily, looking for a cheap rental because they look/play small whenever they are missing one of Mobley/Allen/Wade

I expect the Cavs to be opportunistic with the buyout market, similar to picking up Morris last season. I'm not a big fan of giving up assets for an end of bench big who in all likelihood will contribute nothing in the Playoffs.

How did relying on Danny Green and Morris as backups work out the last two playoff runs?Trading for a guy like Sharpe allows us to start Wade at SF in certain matchups. Also, Wade has been injured in the last two playoff runs. Finally, I'm terrified about the prospect of Kenny playing Niang real minutes in the playoffs.

I feel Morris did his part. Danny Green was damaged goods, that one made no sense.

oldncreaky wrote:

Scoot McGroot wrote:

oldncreaky wrote:
True, Day'ron Sharpe is an RFA in July. But are his bird rights worth much? Will he earn a contract above the taxpayer-MLE?

I've got Sharpe as a 4th or 5th big on a team as good as CLE, a RS minutes-eater and a role they would be crazy to spend significant money on. I also wonder how much money the Nets would match given that they want to keep their cap sheet clean for 2026. Some teams might be willing to give him a look, especially if they've been hit with injuries and need the immediate depth, but that's maybe worth a so-so SRP

If Day'ron won't get paid more than the taxpayer MLE (roughly $5.7M next season) as a FA, then CLE will pay little or nothing for him in trade.

There’s still a benefit in trading for a guy and being able to use bird rights, while preserving their MLE for other uses, if need be.

True. But the Cavs right now have 10 players under contract for $192M next year, and that effectively gets them above the first apron even if they fill out the roster just with min-salary players

I just don't see them investing much in a 4th or 5th big. IMO they are, primarily, looking for a cheap rental because they look/play small whenever they are missing one of Mobley/Allen/Wade

Oh, sure. But lots can change, so maintaining the most flexibility helps. And, instead of waiting until the summer to try and sign the guy using the MLE, you can have him now for a playoff run as depth.

bgrep14 wrote:Cleveland: Lavert, Niang, Thor, top 2 protected 2031 1st rd pick

Nets: Johnson and Sharpe

Cavs get a couple guys that help in the now and Brooklyn gets a very lightly protected 1st and cap space for next year to help them pursue max free agents.

If you are a free agent, why would you pick the Nets?

Scoot McGroot wrote:

oldncreaky wrote:

Scoot McGroot wrote:

There’s still a benefit in trading for a guy and being able to use bird rights, while preserving their MLE for other uses, if need be.

True. But the Cavs right now have 10 players under contract for $192M next year, and that effectively gets them above the first apron even if they fill out the roster just with min-salary players

I just don't see them investing much in a 4th or 5th big. IMO they are, primarily, looking for a cheap rental because they look/play small whenever they are missing one of Mobley/Allen/Wade

Oh, sure. But lots can change, so maintaining the most flexibility helps. And, instead of waiting until the summer to try and sign the guy using the MLE, you can have him now for a playoff run as depth.

If Cavs are playing him in the playoffs, they're probably toast.

I guess my opinion of Sharpe is lower i.e. somewhere on the 3rd string, next year's salary is likely to be in the $2.5M-5M range if he's in the NBA. Heck, even the teams I follow (DET and TOR) would treat Sharpe as a 4th big at best, and so the Cavs might be better off looking at the buy-out market to patch their need for a playable 4th big who is at least an upgrade on TT

So maybe the Cavs wouldn't mind him, but I just think they'd baulk at trading anything of consequence. Some cash? Sure. Late SRP? Maybe. More than that? Nah.

mcfly1204 wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:

mcfly1204 wrote:I expect the Cavs to be opportunistic with the buyout market, similar to picking up Morris last season. I'm not a big fan of giving up assets for an end of bench big who in all likelihood will contribute nothing in the Playoffs.

How did relying on Danny Green and Morris as backups work out the last two playoff runs?Trading for a guy like Sharpe allows us to start Wade at SF in certain matchups. Also, Wade has been injured in the last two playoff runs. Finally, I'm terrified about the prospect of Kenny playing Niang real minutes in the playoffs.

I feel Morris did his part. Danny Green was damaged goods, that one made no sense.

Morris and Niang played so poorly in the Magic series that we played without a true forward in Game 7, and I believe the guys who started all had to play 40+ minutes.

Morris had one good shooting game, and that was the only game he wasn't completely underwater in terms of +/-.