Kings move Fox but find replacement

[JMAC3]

Kings send: DeAaron Fox, Kevin Huerter and Trey Lyles
Receive: Trae Young, Clint Capela and Charlotte 2025 1st via Spurs (top 14 protect,2nds in 26 and 27)

Spurs send: Devin Vassell, Hawks 25 1st, Hawks 27 1st and Charlotte 2025 1st via Spurs (top 14 protect,2nds in 26 and 27)
Spurs receive: DeAaron Fox

Hawks send Trae Young and Clint Capela
Hawks receive: Devin Vassell, Kevin Huerter, Tre Lyles and Hawks 25 1st, Hawks 27 1st

Why: Kings still compete with Trae, Add size with Clint, pick up two valuable future 2nd round picks.

Why: Spurs land the guy they want

Why: Hawks can tank rest of the way now that they own their own picks again especially with Jalen out for year. Vassell is a good piece. Huerter and Lyles give them depth and saves them some money.

[Texas Chuck]

I do not believe an asking out Fox is worth more than Trae yet the Kings get to dump Huerter and get a pick.

I also don't see the Hawks trading Trae to get their picks back. If they simply keep Trae they aren't likely to give back premium picks anyway and this way their incentive is to win, not lose.

Fox to Spurs -- what else is there to add at this point?

[BBallFreak]

Oof

Hawks take it on the chin, here.

[One_and_Done]

Kings send: DeAaron Fox, Kevin Huerter and Trey Lyles
Receive: Trae Young, Clint Capela and Charlotte 2025 1st via Spurs (top 14 protect,2nds in 26 and 27)

Spurs send: Devin Vassell, Hawks 25 1st, Hawks 27 1st and Charlotte 2025 1st via Spurs (top 14 protect,2nds in 26 and 27)
Spurs receive: DeAaron Fox

Hawks send Trae Young and Clint Capela
Hawks receive: Devin Vassell, Kevin Huerter, Tre Lyles and Hawks 25 1st, Hawks 27 1st

Why: Kings still compete with Trae, Add size with Clint, pick up two valuable future 2nd round picks.

Why: Spurs land the guy they want

Why: Hawks can tank rest of the way now that they own their own picks again especially with Jalen out for year. Vassell is a good piece. Huerter and Lyles give them depth and saves them some money.

Spurs are still paying too much. A realistic ask is probably filler and 3 FRPs to be negotiated (not the whole Hawks draft certainly, after JJJ went down for the season). I'd be offering 1 Hawks pick (the 27 one), the Bulls pick, and letting the Kings get their 2031 back (or a lotto protected Spurs 1st).

Of course it's moot because the Hawks say no.

[JMAC3]

I do not believe an asking out Fox is worth more than Trae yet the Kings get to dump Huerter and get a pick.

I also don't see the Hawks trading Trae to get their picks back. If they simply keep Trae they aren't likely to give back premium picks anyway and this way their incentive is to win, not lose.

Fox to Spurs -- what else is there to add at this point?

Hawks pick this year is at 11. Jalen Johnson just got ruled out for the rest of the year. That pick might tumble especially if they move Trae in a deal like this. Also, Vassell is a solid young prospect for the Hawks to pick up, it wouldn't only be their own pick.

Kings pick they are getting is a fake first, turns into two 2nds. Fox is much better trade asset than Trae if we base this around what the league interest was for Trae this summer. Lots of smoke about Trae and Dejounte value being roughly the same.

[JMAC3]

Kings send: DeAaron Fox, Kevin Huerter and Trey Lyles
Receive: Trae Young, Clint Capela and Charlotte 2025 1st via Spurs (top 14 protect,2nds in 26 and 27)

Spurs send: Devin Vassell, Hawks 25 1st, Hawks 27 1st and Charlotte 2025 1st via Spurs (top 14 protect,2nds in 26 and 27)
Spurs receive: DeAaron Fox

Hawks send Trae Young and Clint Capela
Hawks receive: Devin Vassell, Kevin Huerter, Tre Lyles and Hawks 25 1st, Hawks 27 1st

Why: Kings still compete with Trae, Add size with Clint, pick up two valuable future 2nd round picks.

Why: Spurs land the guy they want

Why: Hawks can tank rest of the way now that they own their own picks again especially with Jalen out for year. Vassell is a good piece. Huerter and Lyles give them depth and saves them some money.

Spurs are still paying too much. A realistic ask is probably filler and 3 FRPs to be negotiated (not the whole Hawks draft certainly, after JJJ went down for the season). I'd be offering 1 Hawks pick (the 27 one), the Bulls pick, and letting the Kings get their 2031 back (or a lotto protected Spurs 1st).

Spurs would be paying the 2 hawks firsts, a fake Charlotte first (99% chance to be 2 2nds) and Vassell.

For a top 25 player. That doesn't seem like that much to me.

[zimpy27]

I'd have thought Trae is worth more than Fox

[Texas Chuck]

I don't have pick 10 as a premium pick worth downgrading from Trae to Vassell to keep. And again getting a premium pick out of the 27 Hawks first requires me to suck for two more years after this. It's just not enticing.

[JMAC3]

Oof

Hawks take it on the chin, here.

Do they? Trae Young is worth more than potentially 2 lottery picks and Vassell?

The Capela for Huerter/Lyles swap is pretty even imo. Hawks are wanting to move Capela.

[JMAC3]

I'd have thought Trae is worth more than Fox

Based on what? Fox is widely seen as the better player.

[One_and_Done]

Kings send: DeAaron Fox, Kevin Huerter and Trey Lyles
Receive: Trae Young, Clint Capela and Charlotte 2025 1st via Spurs (top 14 protect,2nds in 26 and 27)

Spurs send: Devin Vassell, Hawks 25 1st, Hawks 27 1st and Charlotte 2025 1st via Spurs (top 14 protect,2nds in 26 and 27)
Spurs receive: DeAaron Fox

Hawks send Trae Young and Clint Capela
Hawks receive: Devin Vassell, Kevin Huerter, Tre Lyles and Hawks 25 1st, Hawks 27 1st

Why: Kings still compete with Trae, Add size with Clint, pick up two valuable future 2nd round picks.

Why: Spurs land the guy they want

Why: Hawks can tank rest of the way now that they own their own picks again especially with Jalen out for year. Vassell is a good piece. Huerter and Lyles give them depth and saves them some money.

Spurs are still paying too much. A realistic ask is probably filler and 3 FRPs to be negotiated (not the whole Hawks draft certainly, after JJJ went down for the season). I'd be offering 1 Hawks pick (the 27 one), the Bulls pick, and letting the Kings get their 2031 back (or a lotto protected Spurs 1st).

Spurs would be paying the 2 hawks firsts, a fake Charlotte first (99% chance to be 2 2nds) and Vassell.

For a top 25 player. That doesn't seem like that much to me.

The trade isn't happening in a vacuum though. Fox said he's leaving, and his intended destination is SA. Why give up Vassell too then, especially when he's not valued. The Hawks picks are both likely lotto picks.

Hawks aren't doing this either of course, bit Spurs are overpaying. I'd say 1 Hawks pick of the Spurs choosing, the Bulls pick, and another pick to be negotiated.

[One_and_Done]

I'd have thought Trae is worth more than Fox

Based on what? Fox is widely seen as the better player.

In a vacuum maybe. Not after saying he's leaving and is a FA in 26.

[zimpy27]

I'd have thought Trae is worth more than Fox

Based on what? Fox is widely seen as the better player.

Fox is a year older than Trae and has 1 all star appearance, Trae has 3.

What do you mean by widely? Does widely exclude the coaches of the NBA selecting all stars?

[JMAC3]

I don't have pick 10 as a premium pick worth downgrading from Trae to Vassell to keep. And again getting a premium pick out of the 27 Hawks first requires me to suck for two more years after this. It's just not enticing.

The Hawks picks are completely unprotected and their best player this year just got ruled out for the rest of the season.
I don't think it would be crazy for them to finish as poorly as 8th. At that point you have a 25% of landing a top 4 pick in a loaded draft.

[JMAC3]

I'd have thought Trae is worth more than Fox

Based on what? Fox is widely seen as the better player.

Fox is a year older than Trae and has 1 all star appearance, Trae has 3.

What do you mean by widely? Does widely exclude the coaches of the NBA selecting all stars?

The Hawks were open to moving Trae last summer and the offers sucked.
Who cares about All-star appearances, Fox would be an allstar every year if he played in the Eastern Conference.

[eminence]

Joining the chorus that Trae is worth more than Fox. Atlanta is getting hosed and SA has to ask why they're dealing with SAC at all if Trae is available.

Very nice for Sacramento though.

[jayjaysee]

I don’t understand how this can be seen as too much value from SAS. But meh.

I think Atlanta is owed valued in the swap as Fox has asked out… And Atlanta has a young core that looked like they’d be in the playoffs until Jalen got hurt. Not sure I see them deciding to blow it up and tank..

[One_and_Done]

I'm not sure I prefer Trae to Fox, but that's in a vacuum. In the circumstances it's moot, because Fox trade value is definitely lower.

[mg]

Hawks sell a lot of Trae jerseys and he's signed long term. That stuff is important to their ownership.

For whatever reason Klutch is fine keeping Trae in ATL but they want Fox out of SAC. I doubt they would want Trae in SAC either.

[JMAC3]

Maybe I am living in the twilight zone but I thought it was basically leaked last year that Spurs didn't really value Trae Young that much because he is awful on defense.

I am not knocking down Fox trade value that much, he isn't demanding to be traded right now. Kings can keep him for the next 1.5 years if they really wanted and I think it would be fine. It is there call to move him now so they can get value for him, I don't think that limits his value that much.