Butler to the Warriors: Golden State / Miami / Orlando / Toronto

[NYG]

Edit: Removed Highsmith and Anderson

Heat get:
Bruce Brown
Chris Boucher
Gary Payton II
Kevon Looney

-Gives: Jimmy Butler, Josh Richardson and Kevin Love

Why: They get off of Butler and reset without taking on any bad contracts in return.

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Magic get:
Buddy Hield

-Gives: Gary Harris, '25 2nd and '26 2nd

Why: They add a shooter without giving up any core pieces or prime assets.

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Warriors get:
Jimmy Butler
Kelly Olynyk (via follow-up deal)
Kevin Love
Josh Richardson

-Gives: Andrew Wiggins, Dennis Schroder, Buddy Hield, Gary Payton II and Kevon Looney

Why: They add a legitimate star to Steph and Draymond without losing any of their young talent or picks moving forward.

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Raptors get:
Andrew Wiggins
Gary Harris
Dennis Schroder (via follow-up deal)
2025 Orlando Magic Second Round Draft Pick
2026 Orlando Magic Second Round Draft Pick

Gives: Bruce Brown, Chris Boucher and Kelly Olynyk

Why: They add a solid wing with Canadian roots that could fit their core nicely as they continue to build.

[LilUzi]

I think Miami should get 2025 GSW 1st lotto protected, or atleast some seconds.

[NYG]

Follow up...

Kyle Anderson and 2026 Lakers 2nd for Cody Martin

[Skybox]

I think Miami should get 2025 GSW 1st lotto protected, or atleast some seconds.

I was thinking MIA should get at least one good player...Haywood Highsmith is better than any of them and he's just a throw-in.

Go Warriors, I guess!

[BBallFreak]

As I already mentioned in the other thread, Anderson is a bad contract and this isn't a deal anywhere close to my top priority. I don't like giving up Highsmith and I don't see any value beyond the expiring deals. This would be an if nothing better comes along....I guess?

[Skybox]

I'd rather watch Riley stand up to the jerk for another opt-in season at $52m in fines...he's the only one in the NBA with the balls and the credibility. I would think Fox ends up in MIA with Butler sucking it up and going to SAC - like he should. Only SAC then gets saddled with his salty, old, rapidly declining carcass after they give him the extension that makes Beal's look good. JB's got enough spite to win a game on that alone here and there, but his era is ending and he's acting like he's still a prime MVP candidate.

(in the meantime, ORL taking over the division while they go at it)

[NYG]

As I already mentioned in the other thread, Anderson is a bad contract and this isn't a deal anywhere close to my top priority. I don't like giving up Highsmith and I don't see any value beyond the expiring deals. This would be an if nothing better comes along....I guess?

Take out Highsmith and Anderson?

I edited OP to remove them

[LilUzi]

New deal is much better but still I think Miami should recieve some pick compensation

[BBallFreak]

As I already mentioned in the other thread, Anderson is a bad contract and this isn't a deal anywhere close to my top priority. I don't like giving up Highsmith and I don't see any value beyond the expiring deals. This would be an if nothing better comes along....I guess?

Take out Highsmith and Anderson?

I edited OP to remove them

Better, but it's still like eating plain oatmeal. There's nothing here to get excited about.

[Skybox]

I'd love to see Butler opt out and see who ponies up the money he thinks he deserves...he'll be playing at the Y with Markelle Fultz

[NYG]

As I already mentioned in the other thread, Anderson is a bad contract and this isn't a deal anywhere close to my top priority. I don't like giving up Highsmith and I don't see any value beyond the expiring deals. This would be an if nothing better comes along....I guess?

Take out Highsmith and Anderson?

I edited OP to remove them

Better, but it's still like eating plain oatmeal. There's nothing here to get excited about.

I'm not claiming it isn't... it's just better than any Beal trade

[BBallFreak]

Take out Highsmith and Anderson?

I edited OP to remove them

Better, but it's still like eating plain oatmeal. There's nothing here to get excited about.

I'm not claiming it isn't... it's just better than any Beal trade

Their is no Beal trade. We're never going to be taking him. That doesn't mean we don't deserve an asset

[NYG]

Better, but it's still like eating plain oatmeal. There's nothing here to get excited about.

I'm not claiming it isn't... it's just better than any Beal trade

Their is no Beal trade. We're never going to be taking him. That doesn't mean we don't deserve an asset

If there's a deal with an asset, you deservedly take it. This is more so if it comes down to... Keep Jimmy or get expiring salaries as the only two options.

[BBallFreak]

I'm not claiming it isn't... it's just better than any Beal trade

Their is no Beal trade. We're never going to be taking him. That doesn't mean we don't deserve an asset

If there's a deal with an asset, you deservedly take it. This is more so if it comes down to... Keep Jimmy or get expiring salaries as the only two options.

As long as you realize no Heat fan is going to like this trade because it's nothing to actually like, I'm fine.

[NYG]

Their is no Beal trade. We're never going to be taking him. That doesn't mean we don't deserve an asset

If there's a deal with an asset, you deservedly take it. This is more so if it comes down to... Keep Jimmy or get expiring salaries as the only two options.

As long as you realize no Heat fan is going to like this trade because it's nothing to actually like, I'm fine.

Yeah, I just have it ranked...

Deal with an asset
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This trade
Keep Jimmy

[Tripod]

The 2nd deal....Raps would have no interest in.

You remove Olynyk on top of removing Boucher....so lose size....and they get Schroeder. He didn't work for the Raps and now they have IQ, Davion and Shead which is a fine PG situation when healthy.

Too heavy on PG's and now have no backup C.

[BBallFreak]

The 2nd deal....Raps would have no interest in.

You remove Olynyk on top of removing Boucher....so lose size....and they get Schroeder. He didn't work for the Raps and now they have IQ, Davion and Shead which is a fine PG situation when healthy.

Too heavy on PG's and now have no backup C.

Send Schroeder to us. We actually need a point guard and we don't need the size

[oldncreaky]

The 2nd deal....Raps would have no interest in.

You remove Olynyk on top of removing Boucher....so lose size....and they get Schroeder. He didn't work for the Raps and now they have IQ, Davion and Shead which is a fine PG situation when healthy.

Too heavy on PG's and now have no backup C.

Agree. The value might be reasonable, but the direction is questionable. The deal seems to be trying to do 2 contradictory things for TOR -- if TOR is dealing away their 3 bench vets, it's to get draft picks and tank, or to consolidate for a significant young player, not to add talent (Wiggins) who isn't really on Scottie's time line

Agree that Schroeder isn't a good move for TOR. The logic that had TOR traded him in Feb 2024 for a player to cut, and that has not changed. He'd be the 4th PG, and TOR wouldn't extend him.

[Tripod]

The 2nd deal....Raps would have no interest in.

You remove Olynyk on top of removing Boucher....so lose size....and they get Schroeder. He didn't work for the Raps and now they have IQ, Davion and Shead which is a fine PG situation when healthy.

Too heavy on PG's and now have no backup C.

Agree. The value might be reasonable, but the direction is questionable. The deal seems to be trying to do 2 contradictory things for TOR -- if TOR is dealing away their 3 bench vets, it's to get draft picks and tank, or to consolidate for a significant young player, not to add talent (Wiggins) who isn't really on Scottie's time line

Agree that Schroeder isn't a good move for TOR. The logic that had TOR traded him in Feb 2024 for a player to cut, and that has not changed. He'd be the 4th PG, and TOR wouldn't extend him.

Thing is...they "could" do the 1st deal...move Boucher and Brown and add Wiggins. Then still trade Olynyk but it would be for a 2nd in the future and worse, cheaper filler.

Both those moves would be for next year and beyond. Could shut him and others down a bit more and focus on next year. Wiggins would be the bigger POA 3+D guy they could use.

IQ, RJ, Wiggins, Barnes, Yak
Shead, Walter, Gradey, 1st rd pick, 2nd rd pick
Mogbo, Battle, then the filler from the trades

Would need to find a backup C for sure but it's still a young team to grow.

[Skybox]

How much better is Butler at 35 and $48m and expecting a RAISE

than even (just) Wiggins at 29 making $26m with 2 more under contract?