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What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:25 pm
by Xman
What does Dallas do next?
The only justification I see is that management came to the conclusion that Davis gives Dallas a better chance to win the next two or three years. Luka is hurt and Davis has been healthy for two years and is playing great. So, if they are only concerned with maximizing the next two or three years, what is the next step?
Pg- Kyrie. No move needed.
Sg- Klay. Can ride with him. Hard to improve.
Sf- Naji. Good value for cost but could improve.
Pf- PJ. Ok
C- Davis, Gafford (and/or Lively)
Dinwiddie is cheap and productive. Dallas should keep one backup center and Gafford is solid while Lively has more trade value.
Backups: Christie, Lively, Grimes. These are the main trade assets.
Powell, Hardy and Prosper are filler.
Targets: Who/what should they target?
I think wing depth is the biggest hole. Might be wrong and I am sure Dallas fans will correct me if I am.
Looking at what is available to deal, salary is an issue. So, low price players.
Was thinking Herb Jones but with Missi playing so well, not seeing a deal.
Brooklyn might want Lively. Gives them the option of dealing Claxton. Lively &Exum for Clowney&CamT?
Options???
Re: What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:33 pm
by MasterIchiro
PJ + Gafford + Christie = 36 million.
Ingram = 36.million.
Difference is 20K.
Dallas have 12 roster spots aftet the deal but a TPE of 4 million from Seth Curry plus TPE of 16 million from THJ.
Pelicans have 16 roster spots after the deal. So they would send one player into one of the Dallas TPE slots.
Kyrie
Klay
Ingram
AD
Lively
Re: What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:37 pm
by Walmart
I think they are going to go cheap but all in this year and make multiple trades after this. Washington, Thompson, and even Lively are all gone.
Re: What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:38 pm
by MoneyTalks41890
MasterIchiro wrote:PJ + Gafford + Christie = 36 million.
Ingram = 36.million.
Difference is 20K.
Dallas have 12 roster spots aftet the deal but a TPE of 4 million from Seth Curry plus TPE of 16 million from THJ.
Pelicans have 16 roster spots after the deal. So they would send one player into one of the Dallas TPE slots.
Kyrie
Klay
Ingram
AD
Lively
Im not sure if that’s the deal or not but great target imo.
Re: What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:42 pm
by Larry_Russell
Dallas needs to fire their management
Re: What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:44 pm
by MartinsIzAfraud
The cheap middle of the pack playoff route. That’s what this trade signaled and apparently the FO/Owners are ok with it.
Re: What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:45 pm
by MoneyTalks41890
So they just barely ducked the tax, I assume they are going to try to stay there?
Re: What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:47 pm
by Snakebites
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:So they just barely ducked the tax, I assume they are going to try to stay there?
I refuse to believe they traded Luka as a tax move.
You don’t trade for a guy who’s 6 years older than the guy you sent out unless, at the very least, you’re trying to win now at all costs.
Re: What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:50 pm
by vincecarter4pres
Somehow land Zion Williamson?
Butler seems possible, there were rumors him and Kyrie wanted to pair up in Miami or Brooklyn before KD threw a wrench in it. He’d certainly be acquirable for low asset cost.
Ingram makes some sense.
CJ MCCollum?
Cam Thomas or Johnson?
Simons or Jerami Grant?
Myles Turner and Mathurin for Lively, Christie and salary? Can it be made to work?
Can they pull off a shocker for Markkanen? Centered around Lively, both available unprotected 1st’s? Something 3+ teams that sends a meh 3rd 1st to Utah?
Re: What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 4:57 pm
by MasterIchiro
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:PJ + Gafford + Christie = 36 million.
Ingram = 36.million.
Difference is 20K.
Dallas have 12 roster spots aftet the deal but a TPE of 4 million from Seth Curry plus TPE of 16 million from THJ.
Pelicans have 16 roster spots after the deal. So they would send one player into one of the Dallas TPE slots.
Kyrie
Klay
Ingram
AD
Lively
Im not sure if that’s the deal or not but great target imo.
Sets up Pelicans to move Zion. So PJ carries the value in this deal.
McCollum
Christie
Murphy III
PJ Washington
Gafford
Pelicans could compete next year with those starters plus lottery pick plus whatever they get for Zion.
Re: What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 5:00 pm
by Texas Chuck
Snakebites wrote:MoneyTalks41890 wrote:So they just barely ducked the tax, I assume they are going to try to stay there?
I refuse to believe they traded Luka as a tax move.
You don’t trade for a guy who’s 6 years older than the guy you sent out unless, at the very least, you’re trying to win now at all costs.
They didn't. But they added value to make sure they ducked it in that deal. So I think we have to consider what payroll they are willing to support.
But yes they should be win at all costs, but after this move can we really understand the plan?
Re: What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 5:03 pm
by Xman
[quote="MasterIchiro"]PJ + Gafford + Christie = 36 million.
Ingram = 36.million.
Difference is 20K.
Dallas have 12 roster spots aftet the deal but a TPE of 4 million from Seth Curry plus TPE of 16 million from THJ.
Pelicans have 16 roster spots after the deal. So they would send one player into one of the Dallas TPE slots.
Kyrie
Klay
Ingram
AD
Lively[/quote]
I think it’s good for both teams.
Could try to add on Powell for Theis&JAR for better depth.
Re: What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 5:03 pm
by Snakebites
Texas Chuck wrote:Snakebites wrote:MoneyTalks41890 wrote:So they just barely ducked the tax, I assume they are going to try to stay there?
I refuse to believe they traded Luka as a tax move.
You don’t trade for a guy who’s 6 years older than the guy you sent out unless, at the very least, you’re trying to win now at all costs.
They didn't. But they added value to make sure they ducked it in that deal. So I think we have to consider what payroll they are willing to support.
But yes they should be win at all costs, but after this move can we really understand the plan?
My initial assumption was they’ll try and use the pick they got in this trade to add someone.
Re: What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 5:10 pm
by winforlose
Texas Chuck wrote:Snakebites wrote:MoneyTalks41890 wrote:So they just barely ducked the tax, I assume they are going to try to stay there?
I refuse to believe they traded Luka as a tax move.
You don’t trade for a guy who’s 6 years older than the guy you sent out unless, at the very least, you’re trying to win now at all costs.
They didn't. But they added value to make sure they ducked it in that deal. So I think we have to consider what payroll they are willing to support.
But yes they should be win at all costs, but after this move can we really understand the plan?
Outside of ownership and maybe 1 or 2 people in the FO I don’t think ANYONE understands this plan.
Re: What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 5:24 pm
by MasterIchiro
Cody Martin + #33 + #34 for Christie.
It's a shorter deal, wing for SG. Figure Klay starts, Hardy backs him. Grimes starts. Martin backs Grimes.
Mavs add 2 cheap contracts to thin roster for depth, trim longterm money for cap management.
Hornets add a SG1 prospect, upgrade over Josh Green.
Re: What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 5:33 pm
by louc1970
From what I read it is the fear of paying Doncic $350m on the next contract.
Re: What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 5:39 pm
by aemannarwal
What is Dallas trying to win ??? Play in spot ???
Unless they get jokic or sga or giannis in the the next week, they won't go beyond round 2 of the playoffs
Re: What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 5:40 pm
by chrbal
Call the Bulls for advice on how to be a treadmill team
Fire their scouts and whoever was involved with deciding on that trade
Re: What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 6:48 pm
by Xman
Utah gets that 2029 first, Powell and Exum.
Brooklyn gets Prosper, Gafford, picks.
Dallas gets DSharpe, Clowney, ZWilliams, Keon, Kessler, KGeorge.
Could change a few names or pay more to get CamT.
Pick to Brooklyn could be 2025 Dallas first with some seconds coming back.
This would give Dallas solid depth across the board.
Re: What does Dallas do next?
Posted: Sun Feb 2, 2025 6:52 pm
by ejftw
Think Mann would be a great fit, but just don't see a way to make salaries match to where both teams are good with it