Researching realistic Jrue Holiday Trades 2025 offseason

[brackdan70]

His remaining contract: 32.4, 34.8, 37.2 (PO)
He will be 35,36,37.
He at least now is still a really solid player, though signs of age are beginning to show. He probably won’t play every game, but could be a solid piece for a contender. He can still be a difference maker, but probably won’t be considered underpaid by any means.

He was fantastic last year, but is well off that pace this year.
He is definitely a positive impact guy still ranking 83rd in LEBRON Wins and 100th in EPM Wins.
At this point he will be the 52nd highest paid player next season, so underperforming his contract.

It’s been widely publicized that the Celtics face a historic lux tax bill that could be in the neighborhood of 220 million dollars or more.
It seems likely that they will look hard at transactions to reduce that bill a little. Jrue seems like the guy to attempt to move to me.
In a trade I would guess they would hope to bring back less that 20 million and a shorter term, 2 years or less. They will likely have to send a pick to grease the skids.
Assuming they send a first I think they need at least one playable rotation guy coming back in the package.
So all that said. Are there any realistic ideas out there?

[ReggiesKnicks]

Holiday was a player who would decline once his athleticism went as a smaller wing defender. Once his quickness leaves the building (or body in this case) it's just hard for him to be effective on either side of the court.

Realistic ideas? I don't see any team wanting to commit to 3 years of Jrue Holiday at this stage.

[HornetJail]

I'm expecting neutral value at best on that contract, personally. Still a good player but that's a ton of money owed to someone of his age that was talking about potential retirement before he even got traded to the Celtics.

It has to be a flailing "contender" trying to stay afloat the next year or two.

[Astaluego]

A few teams come to mind...
The Mavs...
I imagine an offer that includes Klay Thompson+ Gafford.
I imagine they stay with Gafford and try to trade Klay by attaching some asset to him or sending him to the Magic for a smaller, but easier to move player like Cole Antonhy...?
Timberwolbes for Randle (expiring?)
I also suppose to try to bring a 3 team that Randle wants..
Randle+FRP 26 for Lonzo/Vuc..? or Lonzo/P.Williams....
Or my favorite destination...
Jrue to KINGS..
DDR to HAWKS
Valanciunas/T.Mann to BOSTON

[oldncreaky]

Jrue's best destination is a young team that washes out of the Conf Semi-finals and wants him for both his on-court and off-court contributions, and won't mind going into the luxury tax for the privilege -- so we'll see by June

[jayjaysee]

Didn’t play with the cap numbers, but Mann, Niang, Kobe feels like matching salaries? Feels like all 3 are okay fits for Boston. But you can dump 1-3 of them if you want to save more money..

Always having Trae on the court with one of Jrue or Dyson? Feels pretty affordable with Jalen/OO/Zacc on small contracts through Jrue’s deal.

No idea what goes into it. Just like the idea.

Atlanta should have the tax space to pay Capela and use MLE on a 3rd forward.. or use their TPE on a center or forward, etc.. Probably room for Nance? makes a nice top 8-9 with draft picks / Vit behind them..

[Godaddycurse]

sacramento? derozan and filler?

[schaffy]

A few teams come to mind...
The Mavs...
I imagine an offer that includes Klay Thompson+ Gafford.
I imagine they stay with Gafford and try to trade Klay by attaching some asset to him or sending him to the Magic for a smaller, but easier to move player like Cole Antonhy...?
Timberwolbes for Randle (expiring?)
I also suppose to try to bring a 3 team that Randle wants..
Randle+FRP 26 for Lonzo/Vuc..? or Lonzo/P.Williams....
Or my favorite destination...
Jrue to KINGS..
DDR to HAWKS
Valanciunas/T.Mann to BOSTON

Can't imagine Minnesota would do that at all. They'll want to either free up money to bring back Naz and maybe NAW, or clean up the cap sheet some moving forward.

Bringing in a 35 yr old G when they've already got a 37 yr old PG feels unwise. Especially with Ant, DDV, Dillingham, and 1 or 2 other young guys also needing backcourt minutes. They'd need size coming back, not Gs.

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[jayjaysee]

Because Atlanta won’t actually do it.. LAC? Salary wise… Bogdan, Dunn, Eubanks feels like a legal trade? Leaves some room to fill the bench under the apron. And they can’t care about age..

[jayu70]

Didn’t play with the cap numbers, but Mann, Niang, Kobe feels like matching salaries? Feels like all 3 are okay fits for Boston. But you can dump 1-3 of them if you want to save more money..

Always having Trae on the court with one of Jrue or Dyson? Feels pretty affordable with Jalen/OO/Zacc on small contracts through Jrue’s deal.

No idea what goes into it. Just like the idea.

Atlanta should have the tax space to pay Capela and use MLE on a 3rd forward.. or use their TPE on a center or forward, etc.. Probably room for Nance? makes a nice top 8-9 with draft picks / Vit behind them..

I don't see the Hawks willing to pay $30+ million Holiday to back up Trae and Dyson, particularly with Dyson extension eligible this offseason.

[jayjaysee]

Didn’t play with the cap numbers, but Mann, Niang, Kobe feels like matching salaries? Feels like all 3 are okay fits for Boston. But you can dump 1-3 of them if you want to save more money..

Always having Trae on the court with one of Jrue or Dyson? Feels pretty affordable with Jalen/OO/Zacc on small contracts through Jrue’s deal.

No idea what goes into it. Just like the idea.

Atlanta should have the tax space to pay Capela and use MLE on a 3rd forward.. or use their TPE on a center or forward, etc.. Probably room for Nance? makes a nice top 8-9 with draft picks / Vit behind them..

I don't see the Hawks willing to pay $30+ million Holiday to back up Trae and Dyson, particularly with Dyson extension eligible this offseason.

Working under the impression that they have their ideal 5 starters for the next few seasons, the best move would be to build a really great bench… Unless they plan to upgrade OO or Zac or Dyson. I don’t think that’s in the plan.

So we’re going to disagree here. Theres a 30mpg role for Jrue. And that’s worth the money, especially with the cheap starters.

And really, you are probably happy if Jrue is only playing 24mpg next season and just being a great influence on the youth and being ready for a larger role in the playoffs.

2026-2027 is a long time away, but Trae, OO, Jalen, Zac, Jrue, 2025 first round picks, 2026 pick will likely equal around 160 in a season with a 207 million dollar tax / 215 mill first apron.. That’s giving Trae a raise and picking in the middle of the draft (while not using a calculator at all..) so even if they want to stay under the tax.. feels like it’s very affordable to me. And 2027-2028 will be similar/easier as the cheap guys will be “cheaper” with the raising cap..

[cl2117]

I'm guessing he's going for neutral value with draft capital needing to be added if higher level roleplayers are coming back to the C's, although I think it all comes down to his playoff performance. His contract is going to limit his return since he's absolutely going to be paid well in excess of his on court production in those later years and he's having a down year so I can see him being counted as a negative asset, but if he turns it on in the playoffs I think his sluggish regular season will be mostly ignored.

The Lakers, Mavs, Clippers and Magic would be teams I'd think might consider it.

Lakers have bigger issues in their frontcourt to sort out, but I could see Pelinka jumping at getting Jrue for a song, especially if they manage to get a cheap solution at the 5 like they would have had with Mark Williams (Kessler maybe?). Some combo of Rui or Reaves and Vincent or Vanderbilt for C's who try to duck the 2nd apron by moving one of that latter duo while keeping one of the former. I love Rui think he'd be good heir to Horford in the lineup and think with DFS and LBJ Lakers could go without.

Mavs for Klay/Gafford. Dallas balance things a bit, C's keep Gafford and potentially dump Klay (or keep him if Horford retires and net/net get decent cap savings from Jrue/Horford to Klay/Gafford, even if it's a talent downgrade).

Clippers seem like an option purely because money doesn't seem like a consideration there. Jrue/Harden backcourt is probably 2-3 years too late but I'd still watch the hell out of it. C's can get solid roleplayers that give them a chance to move more pieces around and save costs.

Magic are a wildcard because I get that it doesn't make sense, but as oldncreaky points out, I think a young team that has a surprisingly strong playoff run and is willing to bring in an old/expensive vet that can be "the straw that stirs the drink" could end up being an option. There's such good young talent there they could make a huge leap on their own but getting a a guy like Jrue (assuming he doesn't completely fall off) could take them higher quicker and without costing them any major assets.

Could be a tough sell. Stevens might end up paying to move off him or switching his sights on moving KP or Brown if they're more able to bring back fitting pieces, but I'm hoping Jrue turns it on in the playoffs and either warrants running it back or makes enough of an impact that teams are willing to take on his contract by consolidating good roleplayers into an offer.

[jbk1234]

Not with respect to Jrue specifically, but older stars on really expensive contracts is starting to feel like the mortgage-backed-security crisis.

[basketballwacko2]

Holiday was a player who would decline once his athleticism went as a smaller wing defender. Once his quickness leaves the building (or body in this case) it's just hard for him to be effective on either side of the court.

Realistic ideas? I don't see any team wanting to commit to 3 years of Jrue Holiday at this stage.

I felt like that contract they gave him was ill advised. I think they'll have to pay someone to take that contract. He might have a positive effect on a team with a young point guard who needs a mentor but then there's 2 more seasons at a lot of money.

[basketballwacko2]

Jrue's best destination is a young team that washes out of the Conf Semi-finals and wants him for both his on-court and off-court contributions, and won't mind going into the luxury tax for the privilege -- so we'll see by June

Not paying tax, but sounds like the Wizards, they'll have space and they'll have Middleton if he opts in. If not they'll have plenty of space, Holiday and a #1 or 2 to Washington for Space or Middleton.

[basketballwacko2]

Not with respect to Jrue specifically, but older stars on really expensive contracts is starting to feel like the mortgage-backed-security crisis.

Yeah could be!

I was thinking it looks like a final year buyout by someone.

[babyjax13]

Randle will be expiring and Minnesota needs a point guard.

[jscott]

Randle will be expiring and Minnesota needs a point guard.

Wolves need to shed cap to sign Naz and NAW (and now Jaylen Clark)

They won’t be taking on another PG north of 35 years old.

[nate33]

Jrue's best destination is a young team that washes out of the Conf Semi-finals and wants him for both his on-court and off-court contributions, and won't mind going into the luxury tax for the privilege -- so we'll see by June

Not paying tax, but sounds like the Wizards, they'll have space and they'll have Middleton if he opts in. If not they'll have plenty of space, Holiday and a #1 or 2 to Washington for Space or Middleton.

At the Trade Deadline next year, I'd offer Middleton for Jrue + BOS 2026 FRP + BOS 2031 FRP. We're talking about taking on $65M in salary, that's gonna cost.

[brackdan70]

Jrue's best destination is a young team that washes out of the Conf Semi-finals and wants him for both his on-court and off-court contributions, and won't mind going into the luxury tax for the privilege -- so we'll see by June

Not paying tax, but sounds like the Wizards, they'll have space and they'll have Middleton if he opts in. If not they'll have plenty of space, Holiday and a #1 or 2 to Washington for Space or Middleton.

At the Trade Deadline next year, I'd offer Middleton for Jrue + BOS 2026 FRP + BOS 2031 FRP. We're talking about taking on $65M in salary, that's gonna cost.

Agree it will cost. That seems a bit on the steep side though.
Trading for Middleton who makes more next year is also not possible. Cs would be hard capped at the 1st Apron and no way to get there.
Need a trades for someone who makes less than Jrue next year.