What is the off-season plan? Atlanta Hawks
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What is the off-season plan? Atlanta Hawks
has 2 picks this summer in the first round..Lakers and Kings..
+ they don't control their selection next year... so even though they are a young team, they will compete
9 players with guaranteed contracts..
T. Young
J.Johnson
D.Daniels
Z.Risacher
Okongwu
T.Mann
K.Bufkin
Krejci
Niang
TO Gueye..
+- 143 Million....
So what do you think they will do or even more fun...what would you do?
+ they don't control their selection next year... so even though they are a young team, they will compete
9 players with guaranteed contracts..
T. Young
J.Johnson
D.Daniels
Z.Risacher
Okongwu
T.Mann
K.Bufkin
Krejci
Niang
TO Gueye..
+- 143 Million....
So what do you think they will do or even more fun...what would you do?
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While it may change if some interesting opportunities arise, I assume that the plan is pretty simple.
Start Young/DD/Risachler/Johnson/OO
Look for some bench upgrades in draft/FA (FA more for immediate patches, draft for long-term upside). With 5 young (or at most NBA middle-aged) starters in place I don't expect major moves.
Start Young/DD/Risachler/Johnson/OO
Look for some bench upgrades in draft/FA (FA more for immediate patches, draft for long-term upside). With 5 young (or at most NBA middle-aged) starters in place I don't expect major moves.
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What do you think about a T.Mann+Krejci trade for DDR..?giberish wrote:While it may change if some interesting opportunities arise, I assume that the plan is pretty simple.
Start Young/DD/Risachler/Johnson/OO
Look for some bench upgrades in draft/FA (FA more for immediate patches, draft for long-term upside). With 5 young (or at most NBA middle-aged) starters in place I don't expect major moves.
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Astaluego wrote:What do you think about a T.Mann+Krejci trade for DDR..?giberish wrote:While it may change if some interesting opportunities arise, I assume that the plan is pretty simple.
Start Young/DD/Risachler/Johnson/OO
Look for some bench upgrades in draft/FA (FA more for immediate patches, draft for long-term upside). With 5 young (or at most NBA middle-aged) starters in place I don't expect major moves.
I don't follow the Hawks close enough to have a feel at all for their depth guys (where they think they're fine in-house vs needing outside upgrades).
It would probably also depend on DDR's willingness to be a 6th man as I expect his offense-creation would be most valuable in bench (or half-bench/half-starter) lineups.
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Astaluego wrote:What do you think about a T.Mann+Krejci trade for DDR..?giberish wrote:While it may change if some interesting opportunities arise, I assume that the plan is pretty simple.
Start Young/DD/Risachler/Johnson/OO
Look for some bench upgrades in draft/FA (FA more for immediate patches, draft for long-term upside). With 5 young (or at most NBA middle-aged) starters in place I don't expect major moves.
It's a no go. That was the point of trading the younger Hunter. We needed depth and defense. DDR doesn't give us that. This just reverts the deadline move we made before, and i'd imagine we just re-sign Levert for a cheaper deal than to reverse what we did at the deadline.
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Regarding what the Hawks will do this offseason.
I think we mostly stand pat. In my opinion, we have the young core in place to win with Trae. We only need internal progression. DD, Zacch, and JJ all taking another step would solidify us in the top 4-6 range.
Biggest priority should be more size at the 5 coming off the bench.
Maybe re-sign Levert. I would personally draft Rocco Zikarsky, but regardless, we need length.
I think we mostly stand pat. In my opinion, we have the young core in place to win with Trae. We only need internal progression. DD, Zacch, and JJ all taking another step would solidify us in the top 4-6 range.
Biggest priority should be more size at the 5 coming off the bench.
Maybe re-sign Levert. I would personally draft Rocco Zikarsky, but regardless, we need length.
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Pipe dream big on Giannis.
Likely reality bring in Zion or Embiid.
Likely reality bring in Zion or Embiid.
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kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Pipe dream big on Giannis.
Likely reality bring in Zion or Embiid.
Embiid would cost them Trae you'd figure or at least Jalen. Zion is interesting. Wonder what the Pels want for him?
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Slim Charless wrote:kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Pipe dream big on Giannis.
Likely reality bring in Zion or Embiid.
Embiid would cost them Trae you'd figure or at least Jalen. Zion is interesting. Wonder what the Pels want for him?
Who in their right mind is paying that kind of value for Embiid?
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It seems clear to me that Trae wants to be dealt. I wonder if there is a three way deal that involves something like...
Trae to Phoenix
Durant to team X
pick(s)/prospect(s)/filler to ATL
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That could give Phoenix a reasonable foundation for a playoff team since they owe so many picks - they'd certainly have the potential to be a lot of fun with Trae and Booker. Young looks like he isn't going to return a lot of value - I think he should be more valuable than people on the board in general think, but I'm not sure it is too dissimilar to Durant? e.g., would San Antonio push in on Durant and send Atlanta their 2027 1st back?
Trae to Phoenix
Durant to team X
pick(s)/prospect(s)/filler to ATL
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That could give Phoenix a reasonable foundation for a playoff team since they owe so many picks - they'd certainly have the potential to be a lot of fun with Trae and Booker. Young looks like he isn't going to return a lot of value - I think he should be more valuable than people on the board in general think, but I'm not sure it is too dissimilar to Durant? e.g., would San Antonio push in on Durant and send Atlanta their 2027 1st back?

JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
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babyjax13 wrote:It seems clear to me that Trae wants to be dealt.......
Explain?
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jayu70 wrote:babyjax13 wrote:It seems clear to me that Trae wants to be dealt.......
Explain?
We've seen several people say that he wants to win and likely isn't happy w/the current situation. It gives the same vibe as the year of Hayward to Boston rumors. So, the *to me* part is def. the operative section of that sentence and we will see if I am right


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babyjax13 wrote:jayu70 wrote:babyjax13 wrote:It seems clear to me that Trae wants to be dealt.......
Explain?
We've seen several people say that he wants to win and likely isn't happy w/the current situation. It gives the same vibe as the year of Hayward to Boston rumors. So, the *to me* part is def. the operative section of that sentence and we will see if I am right
Who's the several people?
Trae has been saying he wants to win since year 2.
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jayu70 wrote:babyjax13 wrote:jayu70 wrote:Explain?
We've seen several people say that he wants to win and likely isn't happy w/the current situation. It gives the same vibe as the year of Hayward to Boston rumors. So, the *to me* part is def. the operative section of that sentence and we will see if I am right
Who's the several people?
Trae has been saying he wants to win since year 2.
I'm not going to litigate this, it was in several media outlets around the trade deadline. Maybe it is wrong, Haynes was one of the sources, but there was a lot of chatter and it seemed more serious to me. Regardless of whether he wants out, though, I think they should trade him and lean into the really fun defensive identity around Daniels/Johnson.

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SAS trades: 2027 ATL 1st, Keldon Johnson, Harrison Barnes, Malaki Branham
in: Kevin Durant
San Antonio still has lots of assets after this, but they are trading their best under the condition that ATL trades Young. However, this trade builds them an immediate contender of Fox/Castle/Vassell/Durant/Wembenyama - I think they are ready to start competing now and this deal sets them up to do so. Durant expires the next year and Wemby will still be on a rookie deal so they can try to sign another star player to compete long-term in the 2027 offseason.
PHX trades: Kevin Durant
in: Trae Young
Phoenix trades Durant for a younger, cheaper, less impactful star.
ATL trades: Trae Young
in: 2027 ATL 1st, Keldon Johnson, Harrison Barnes, Malaki Branham
Atlanta looks at their 2025 1st as a sunk cost (albeit they at least have Dyson Daniels out of this) and recoups their 2027 1st to lean into a rebuild with Daniels and Johnson as promising centerpieces. The 2026 draft looks incredible already, and 2027 also has some interesting prospects at the top.
in: Kevin Durant
San Antonio still has lots of assets after this, but they are trading their best under the condition that ATL trades Young. However, this trade builds them an immediate contender of Fox/Castle/Vassell/Durant/Wembenyama - I think they are ready to start competing now and this deal sets them up to do so. Durant expires the next year and Wemby will still be on a rookie deal so they can try to sign another star player to compete long-term in the 2027 offseason.
PHX trades: Kevin Durant
in: Trae Young
Phoenix trades Durant for a younger, cheaper, less impactful star.
ATL trades: Trae Young
in: 2027 ATL 1st, Keldon Johnson, Harrison Barnes, Malaki Branham
Atlanta looks at their 2025 1st as a sunk cost (albeit they at least have Dyson Daniels out of this) and recoups their 2027 1st to lean into a rebuild with Daniels and Johnson as promising centerpieces. The 2026 draft looks incredible already, and 2027 also has some interesting prospects at the top.

JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
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one report, not lots of chatter AFTER the deadline passed.babyjax13 wrote:jayu70 wrote:babyjax13 wrote:We've seen several people say that he wants to win and likely isn't happy w/the current situation. It gives the same vibe as the year of Hayward to Boston rumors. So, the *to me* part is def. the operative section of that sentence and we will see if I am right
Who's the several people?
Trae has been saying he wants to win since year 2.
I'm not going to litigate this, it was in several media outlets around the trade deadline. Maybe it is wrong, Haynes was one of the sources, but there was a lot of chatter and it seemed more serious to me. Regardless of whether he wants out, though, I think they should trade him and lean into the really fun defensive identity around Daniels/Johnson.
And on the flipside really ugly offense.
Johnson also hasn't been special on defense like Danials. Hawks miss his size and rebounding on defense. Hawks are currently ranked #13 in defensive rating (last I checked) without JJ.
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jayu70 wrote:one report, not lots of chatter AFTER the deadline passed.babyjax13 wrote:jayu70 wrote:Who's the several people?
Trae has been saying he wants to win since year 2.
I'm not going to litigate this, it was in several media outlets around the trade deadline. Maybe it is wrong, Haynes was one of the sources, but there was a lot of chatter and it seemed more serious to me. Regardless of whether he wants out, though, I think they should trade him and lean into the really fun defensive identity around Daniels/Johnson.
And on the flipside really ugly offense.
Johnson also hasn't been special on defense like Danials. Hawks miss his size and rebounding on defense. Hawks are currently ranked #13 in defensive rating (last I checked) without JJ.
Well, it is hard to be special like Daniels, he may be one of one. But I love Johnson's versatility, lots of teams would kill to have a guy like him at the 4 on either end. He's also the exact kind of player that Snyder maximizes.

JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
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babyjax13 wrote:jayu70 wrote:one report, not lots of chatter AFTER the deadline passed.babyjax13 wrote:I'm not going to litigate this, it was in several media outlets around the trade deadline. Maybe it is wrong, Haynes was one of the sources, but there was a lot of chatter and it seemed more serious to me. Regardless of whether he wants out, though, I think they should trade him and lean into the really fun defensive identity around Daniels/Johnson.
And on the flipside really ugly offense.
Johnson also hasn't been special on defense like Danials. Hawks miss his size and rebounding on defense. Hawks are currently ranked #13 in defensive rating (last I checked) without JJ.
Well, it is hard to be special like Daniels, he may be one of one. But I love Johnson's versatility, lots of teams would kill to have a guy like him at the 4 on either end. He's also the exact kind of player that Snyder maximizes.
All of that, but he hasn't shown he can be 'the guy' yet.
When he's the defensive focus from other teams without Trae on the floor his limitations are glaring. He still needs a lot in the halfcourt. And he's got to stay healthy
Two consecutive years he's out.
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Astaluego wrote:has 2 picks this summer in the first round..Lakers and Kings..
+ they don't control their selection next year... so even though they are a young team, they will compete
9 players with guaranteed contracts..
T. Young
J.Johnson
D.Daniels
Z.Risacher
Okongwu
T.Mann
K.Bufkin
Krejci
Niang
TO Gueye..
+- 143 Million....
So what do you think they will do or even more fun...what would you do?
Reports linking the Hawks to win now players like KD, Beal, BI, etc. during the td, I'm sure they will want to be aggressive for the latest disgruntled star/starter this summer.
Nobody literally has cap space that wants to compete and the Hawks have the ability to add more space. They've created avenues to acquire better players this cycle. Just a matter of what Fields has up his sleeve. He's an inexperienced GM, no way of predicting what his plan is.
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