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Naz Reid to Sac 

Post#1 » by OGSactownballer » Tue Feb 25, 2025 6:08 pm

News that Naz infecting and wolves are still in trouble cap wise.

DDR for S & T Naz Reid.

It’s a problem solver for both teams needs and if his price goes up above DDR a bit can add something.
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Re: Naz Reid to Sac 

Post#2 » by Godaddycurse » Tue Feb 25, 2025 6:24 pm

what problem is DDR solving for the wolves?
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Re: Naz Reid to Sac 

Post#3 » by ReggiesKnicks » Tue Feb 25, 2025 6:56 pm

How does this solve anything for Minnesota?

When I look at their roster they have Randle, ANT, Dillingham as shot-creators and McDaniels, Conley and DDV as tertiary creators.

Aren't they in dire need of Naz's incredible shooting and ability to play both the 4 and 5? Or is Luka Garza their answer at back-up Center?

You have about 25 more teams to sell DDR on before the summer :lol:
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Re: Naz Reid to Sac 

Post#4 » by wolves_89 » Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:23 pm

Not even close for Minnesota. The Wolves would much prefer having a 26 year old Naz at $25-30M over a 36 year old DDR at $25M.
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Re: Naz Reid to Sac 

Post#5 » by gswhoops » Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:41 pm

wolves_89 wrote:Not even close for Minnesota. The Wolves would much prefer having a 26 year old Naz at $25-30M over a 36 year old DDR at $25M.

Yeah. I mean I dare say the Wolves would probably rather just have the cap savings than DDR at $25M.
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Re: Naz Reid to Sac 

Post#6 » by Texas Chuck » Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:50 pm

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wolves_89 wrote:Not even close for Minnesota. The Wolves would much prefer having a 26 year old Naz at $25-30M over a 36 year old DDR at $25M.

Yeah. I mean I dare say the Wolves would probably rather just have the cap savings than DDR at $25M.


Agree with this.

Unless Randle opts out though I don't see A-Rod and co paying Naz $25m per though. Of course I also don't know where he is finding that money on the open market either.

Wolves face some really tough decisions this off-season over who they keep(other than Edwards obviously). I think you can make a sound argument for jsut every other player on the roster that its time to move on from them. To be clear--I am not suggesting they tear it to the studs, but when I look at their current rotation guys, I can make sound arguments for why its time to go a different direction.

And with ARod's group in, I think we shouldn't be surprised if payroll gets knocked all the way down under not just the aprons, but the tax line.
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Re: Naz Reid to Sac 

Post#7 » by Godaddycurse » Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:54 pm

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gswhoops wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:Not even close for Minnesota. The Wolves would much prefer having a 26 year old Naz at $25-30M over a 36 year old DDR at $25M.

Yeah. I mean I dare say the Wolves would probably rather just have the cap savings than DDR at $25M.


Agree with this.

Unless Randle opts out though I don't see A-Rod and co paying Naz $25m per though. Of course I also don't know where he is finding that money on the open market either.

Wolves face some really tough decisions this off-season over who they keep(other than Edwards obviously). I think you can make a sound argument for jsut every other player on the roster that its time to move on from them. To be clear--I am not suggesting they tear it to the studs, but when I look at their current rotation guys, I can make sound arguments for why its time to go a different direction.

And with ARod's group in, I think we shouldn't be surprised if payroll gets knocked all the way down under not just the aprons, but the tax line.


He would be an excellent fit in Detroit, who also has cap room/can make room for him.
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Re: Naz Reid to Sac 

Post#8 » by wolves_89 » Tue Feb 25, 2025 8:25 pm

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gswhoops wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:Not even close for Minnesota. The Wolves would much prefer having a 26 year old Naz at $25-30M over a 36 year old DDR at $25M.

Yeah. I mean I dare say the Wolves would probably rather just have the cap savings than DDR at $25M.


Agree with this.

Unless Randle opts out though I don't see A-Rod and co paying Naz $25m per though. Of course I also don't know where he is finding that money on the open market either.

Wolves face some really tough decisions this off-season over who they keep(other than Edwards obviously). I think you can make a sound argument for jsut every other player on the roster that its time to move on from them. To be clear--I am not suggesting they tear it to the studs, but when I look at their current rotation guys, I can make sound arguments for why its time to go a different direction.

And with ARod's group in, I think we shouldn't be surprised if payroll gets knocked all the way down under not just the aprons, but the tax line.


The off-season decisions for the Wolves seem pretty easy, move on from Randle and re-sign Naz/NAW. There are plenty of paths where Minnesota can accomplish those things. I have a very different take on the Wolves payroll expectations and fully expect them to be a tax team next season, probably coming ending up a bit under the 2nd apron.
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Re: Naz Reid to Sac 

Post#9 » by ReggiesKnicks » Tue Feb 25, 2025 8:29 pm

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gswhoops wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:Not even close for Minnesota. The Wolves would much prefer having a 26 year old Naz at $25-30M over a 36 year old DDR at $25M.

Yeah. I mean I dare say the Wolves would probably rather just have the cap savings than DDR at $25M.


Agree with this.

Unless Randle opts out though I don't see A-Rod and co paying Naz $25m per though. Of course I also don't know where he is finding that money on the open market either.

Wolves face some really tough decisions this off-season over who they keep(other than Edwards obviously). I think you can make a sound argument for jsut every other player on the roster that its time to move on from them. To be clear--I am not suggesting they tear it to the studs, but when I look at their current rotation guys, I can make sound arguments for why its time to go a different direction.

And with ARod's group in, I think we shouldn't be surprised if payroll gets knocked all the way down under not just the aprons, but the tax line.


Yeah, going all the way under the Tax would be insane, but possible.

The Tax line will be 187 Million, while the Timberwolves will be at 176 Million with the following:

Anthony Edwards
Rudy Gobert
Julius Randle
Jaden McDaniels
Donte DiVincenzo
Mike Conley
Rob Dillingham
Terrence Shannon Jr
Luka Garza
Leonard Miller
Pick #19

That's 11 players, which leaves them with 10 Million to fill out the final 4 roster spots. However, this has them not retaining the following:

Naz Reid
Nickeil Alexander-Walker
Jaylen Clark
Josh Minott

Now, here is my opinion. Tim Connelly is a very good General Manager. He has a long track-record of being savvy, making heady moves and, while he hasn't proven he can reduce payroll and stay a title contender, he has skirted the Tax-Line. It is in Minnesota's best interest, all things considered, to duck the tax this year.

They are one of the most fascinating teams this off-season given the wealth of talent on the roster, the variety of moves they can make and a seemingly clear goal of ducking the tax this year.
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Re: Naz Reid to Sac 

Post#10 » by gswhoops » Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:00 pm

wolves_89 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
gswhoops wrote:Yeah. I mean I dare say the Wolves would probably rather just have the cap savings than DDR at $25M.


Agree with this.

Unless Randle opts out though I don't see A-Rod and co paying Naz $25m per though. Of course I also don't know where he is finding that money on the open market either.

Wolves face some really tough decisions this off-season over who they keep(other than Edwards obviously). I think you can make a sound argument for jsut every other player on the roster that its time to move on from them. To be clear--I am not suggesting they tear it to the studs, but when I look at their current rotation guys, I can make sound arguments for why its time to go a different direction.

And with ARod's group in, I think we shouldn't be surprised if payroll gets knocked all the way down under not just the aprons, but the tax line.


The off-season decisions for the Wolves seem pretty easy, move on from Randle and re-sign Naz/NAW. There are plenty of paths where Minnesota can accomplish those things. I have a very different take on the Wolves payroll expectations and fully expect them to be a tax team next season, probably coming ending up a bit under the 2nd apron.

Sincere question: how do you move on from Randle if he opts in?
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Re: Naz Reid to Sac 

Post#11 » by wolves_89 » Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:09 pm

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wolves_89 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
Agree with this.

Unless Randle opts out though I don't see A-Rod and co paying Naz $25m per though. Of course I also don't know where he is finding that money on the open market either.

Wolves face some really tough decisions this off-season over who they keep(other than Edwards obviously). I think you can make a sound argument for jsut every other player on the roster that its time to move on from them. To be clear--I am not suggesting they tear it to the studs, but when I look at their current rotation guys, I can make sound arguments for why its time to go a different direction.

And with ARod's group in, I think we shouldn't be surprised if payroll gets knocked all the way down under not just the aprons, but the tax line.


The off-season decisions for the Wolves seem pretty easy, move on from Randle and re-sign Naz/NAW. There are plenty of paths where Minnesota can accomplish those things. I have a very different take on the Wolves payroll expectations and fully expect them to be a tax team next season, probably coming ending up a bit under the 2nd apron.

Sincere question: how do you move on from Randle if he opts in?


As an expiring Randle wouldn't be that hard to move. He's a 2 time All-NBA player still in his prime making $30.9M. Any deal where the Wolves take back a player making $15-20M would work.

If I had to guess on the most likely scenario, I'd bet on Randle opting out and working with the Minnesota front office to find a sign-and trade that works for both Julius and the Wolves (Minnesota taking back a $15-20M player).
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Re: Naz Reid to Sac 

Post#12 » by Texas Chuck » Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:22 pm

wolves_89 wrote:The off-season decisions for the Wolves seem pretty easy, move on from Randle and re-sign Naz/NAW. There are plenty of paths where Minnesota can accomplish those things. I have a very different take on the Wolves payroll expectations and fully expect them to be a tax team next season, probably coming ending up a bit under the 2nd apron.


If Randle opts in, not sure its going to be easy to get off that entire number. Nets make sense to take him and he can be a placeholder until 26 free agency, but they should ask for compensation.

And not sure where he makes the money if he opts out since Minny isn't an option for taking back money in a potential S&T if they plan on retaining Naz/NAW on market deals. I'm not seeing where they can take back $20M while paying those guys and ducking the 2nd apron. And of course I'll believe that payroll with the ARod group only when I see it.

It's easier if Randle opts out, but not easy at all if he doesn't.
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Re: Naz Reid to Sac 

Post#13 » by jscott » Tue Feb 25, 2025 10:30 pm

This is **** stupid.
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Re: Naz Reid to Sac 

Post#14 » by jscott » Tue Feb 25, 2025 10:31 pm

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wolves_89 wrote:The off-season decisions for the Wolves seem pretty easy, move on from Randle and re-sign Naz/NAW. There are plenty of paths where Minnesota can accomplish those things. I have a very different take on the Wolves payroll expectations and fully expect them to be a tax team next season, probably coming ending up a bit under the 2nd apron.


If Randle opts in, not sure its going to be easy to get off that entire number. Nets make sense to take him and he can be a placeholder until 26 free agency, but they should ask for compensation.

And not sure where he makes the money if he opts out since Minny isn't an option for taking back money in a potential S&T if they plan on retaining Naz/NAW on market deals. I'm not seeing where they can take back $20M while paying those guys and ducking the 2nd apron. And of course I'll believe that payroll with the ARod group only when I see it.

It's easier if Randle opts out, but not easy at all if he doesn't.

Even if he opts in, they can move him by the deadline and be fine.
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Re: Naz Reid to Sac 

Post#15 » by wolves_89 » Tue Feb 25, 2025 11:09 pm

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wolves_89 wrote:The off-season decisions for the Wolves seem pretty easy, move on from Randle and re-sign Naz/NAW. There are plenty of paths where Minnesota can accomplish those things. I have a very different take on the Wolves payroll expectations and fully expect them to be a tax team next season, probably coming ending up a bit under the 2nd apron.


If Randle opts in, not sure its going to be easy to get off that entire number. Nets make sense to take him and he can be a placeholder until 26 free agency, but they should ask for compensation.

And not sure where he makes the money if he opts out since Minny isn't an option for taking back money in a potential S&T if they plan on retaining Naz/NAW on market deals. I'm not seeing where they can take back $20M while paying those guys and ducking the 2nd apron. And of course I'll believe that payroll with the ARod group only when I see it.

It's easier if Randle opts out, but not easy at all if he doesn't.


The Wolves could likely take back at least $15M and maybe up to $20M in a Randle trade while still being able to stay under the 2nd apron, even with re-signing Naz/NAW.
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Re: Naz Reid to Sac 

Post#16 » by Devilanche » Wed Feb 26, 2025 12:33 am

ReggiesKnicks wrote:That's 11 players, which leaves them with 10 Million to fill out the final 4 roster spots. However, this has them not retaining the following:

Naz Reid
Nickeil Alexander-Walker
Jaylen Clark
Josh Minott

Now, here is my opinion. Tim Connelly is a very good General Manager. He has a long track-record of being savvy, making heady moves and, while he hasn't proven he can reduce payroll and stay a title contender, he has skirted the Tax-Line. It is in Minnesota's best interest, all things considered, to duck the tax this year.

They are one of the most fascinating teams this off-season given the wealth of talent on the roster, the variety of moves they can make and a seemingly clear goal of ducking the tax this year.

While possible and doable , ownership would have failed the city if you moved off that much talent.
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Re: Naz Reid to Sac 

Post#17 » by LightTheBeam » Wed Feb 26, 2025 2:29 am

Id move monk for him. Probably needs a 3rd team, send monk somewhere and a pick + less salary to Minnesota.
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Re: Naz Reid to Sac 

Post#18 » by hugepatsfan » Wed Feb 26, 2025 3:05 am

DDR has 2 years and $50.49M left on his deal. I feel like MIN can re-sign Reid for that (or less) on a 2 year deal. I don't see what this would accomplish for them.
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Post#19 » by jscott » Wed Feb 26, 2025 3:07 am

hugepatsfan wrote:DDR has 2 years and $50.49M left on his deal. I feel like MIN can re-sign Reid for that (or less) on a 2 year deal. I don't see what this would accomplish for them.

Plus he’s old and plays positions the Wolves are already deep in.
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Re: Naz Reid to Sac 

Post#20 » by hugepatsfan » Wed Feb 26, 2025 3:09 am

jscott wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:The off-season decisions for the Wolves seem pretty easy, move on from Randle and re-sign Naz/NAW. There are plenty of paths where Minnesota can accomplish those things. I have a very different take on the Wolves payroll expectations and fully expect them to be a tax team next season, probably coming ending up a bit under the 2nd apron.


If Randle opts in, not sure its going to be easy to get off that entire number. Nets make sense to take him and he can be a placeholder until 26 free agency, but they should ask for compensation.

And not sure where he makes the money if he opts out since Minny isn't an option for taking back money in a potential S&T if they plan on retaining Naz/NAW on market deals. I'm not seeing where they can take back $20M while paying those guys and ducking the 2nd apron. And of course I'll believe that payroll with the ARod group only when I see it.

It's easier if Randle opts out, but not easy at all if he doesn't.

Even if he opts in, they can move him by the deadline and be fine.


What do you mean by "fine"? Below the 2nd apron? The first apron? The tax line?

Randle will make $31M if he opts in. It's not really practical to clear that much at the deadline. Teams don't usually carry that much cap.

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