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Who wants Gradey Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:01 pm
by Thaddy
The Raptors have a logjam at the 2G position and their in the Kasp, Johnson, and VJ range. They also have Agbaji and Walter. Agbaji is their best 3+D option and Walter is in his rookie year making it hard to give him up so soon. It's a tough call but it might be Gradey.
The Raptors need C and PF prospects that can stretch the floor. They are looking to compete next year so a player that can help them be competitive but is also under 23 years old and can develop further would be ideal.
Any ideas? Maybe Jovic and a 2nd?
Re: Who wants Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:04 pm
by meekrab
I don't think the Heat would give you Jovic for forty seven Dicks let alone add a pick to make the swap.
Re: Who wants Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:05 pm
by ThatBoyNick
MEEEE
Re: Who wants Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:10 pm
by Thaddy
meekrab wrote:I don't think the Heat would give you Jovic for forty seven Dicks let alone add a pick to make the swap.
Someone was offering him for Agbaji a while ago

Re: Who wants Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:13 pm
by Mavrelous
OMax Prosper + 2 2nds
Re: Who wants Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:31 pm
by Duffman100
Feels like he's a good buy low candidate, which makes me hesitant to trade him.
Re: Who wants Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:48 pm
by BBallFreak
Thaddy wrote:meekrab wrote:I don't think the Heat would give you Jovic for forty seven Dicks let alone add a pick to make the swap.
Someone was offering him for Agbaji a while ago

It wasn't a Heat fan. It was, on fact, a raptors fan. We don't need another wing when we've got Herro, Wiggins, Robinson, Jacquez, Highsmith, Burks, and Larsson. If you'll recall, we turned down the offer.
I like Dick (huh huh) but I don't see him complimenting Herro, nor do I see him replacing Wiggins in our lineup, so we deplete our frontcourt, which is quite thin without Jovic, in order to bring in a wing to take over Duncan Robinson's role? I'm not feeling it.
Re: Who wants Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:51 pm
by ReggiesKnicks
Thaddy wrote:meekrab wrote:I don't think the Heat would give you Jovic for forty seven Dicks let alone add a pick to make the swap.
Someone was offering him for Agbaji a while ago

No. Someone was offering Agbaji for Jovic a while ago, and they are Toronto fans.
Godaddycurse wrote:Miami trade: Jovic, min filler (probably sent w/ cash to another team)
Toronto trade: Agbaji
Why for Miami: They have a glut of PF's and could use a 3/D guard backing up/playing next to Herro
Why for Toronto: Opposite issue; have a glut of SG's and could use a big on their bench. helps with cap issue next year
add second(s) if needed
Instead of speaking out of your ass, you should check your facts before speaking. We don't need to turn this place into Fox News where we talk before fact-checking.
Re: Who wants Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:00 pm
by Godaddycurse
Duffman100 wrote:Feels like he's a good buy low candidate, which makes me hesitant to trade him.
He also has 2 cheap years left. I think they trade agbaji before dick. I think Dick's numbers will look much better coming off the bench next year
Re: Who wants Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:09 pm
by gswhoops
Lol
Re: Who wants Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:28 pm
by ReggiesKnicks
Hmm...I'm not sure how valuable he is.
Here are his baseline stats and then we can try and paint a profile about him.
35% 3P on 6 3PA/G, 87% FT, .244 FTR, 9 AST%
The promising part about Dick is all of these numbers, including STL%, BLK%, TRB% and OREB% have increased from Year 1 to Year 2. It shows a clear growth and learning from Year 1 to Year 2.
The first player who comes to mind in comparison as a higher-end outcome is Klay Thompson. He was nearly a full year older than Dick during his first season, but here are those stats.
41% 3P on 4 3PA/G, 86 FT%, .127 FTR, 14 AST% (This dropped considerable to around 10% the next 2 seasons had has been a career 11% AST)
I'm not sure Dick has the defensive capabilities of Klay, but I think a powerade version of the gatorade version of Klay isn't a bad outcome.
The next comparison is Norman Powell, who took a few years in the league to find his footing.
Career 39% 3P, 10 AST%, .282 FTR, 83% FT
Dick has more size than Powell and is well ahead on the learning curves, though not all developmental paths are equal or follow the same trajectory.
Tim Hardaway Jr is another player in this similar mold and archetype but Dick is a more consistent shooter than THJ, which was always the thing about the shooting of THJ and his inconsistencies.
Grayson Allen is another great player profile fit, though Dick has an athletic leg-up on Grayson Allen and is longer/taller.
These are the archetypes Dick is projected to fall into barring some unforeseen growth or development.
Re: Who wants Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:41 pm
by Andre Roberstan
ThatBoyNick wrote:MEEEE
gswhoops wrote:Lol
While it is taking everything in my power not to make the obvious joke here too, we do have a rule against low-effort posts. Please try to contribute to the discussion.
Re: Who wants Gradey Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:06 pm
by Texas Chuck
I edited the title. I understand 4th grade humor never fully goes away for any of us, but man is this the most tired joke on RealGM at this point. And its sets up the thread for low content responses.
Re: Who wants Gradey Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:17 pm
by BlazersBroncos
Sharpe + 10 for Dick + 5?
Re: Who wants Gradey Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:20 pm
by Godaddycurse
BlazersBroncos wrote:Sharpe + 10 for Dick + 5?
Our problem is too many SGs. This doesnt help us
Re: Who wants Gradey Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:39 pm
by ReggiesKnicks
BlazersBroncos wrote:Sharpe + 10 for Dick + 5?
The OP specifically is offering up Gradey Dick because of the following rationale.
The Raptors have a logjam at the 2G position
Yet your offer includes an undersized 2 guard.
Re: Who wants Gradey Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:45 pm
by ReggiesKnicks
Wendell Carter Jr + Future 2nd for Gradey Dick
Toronto adds a long-term Center who, historically, has spaced the floor.
Orlando adds an actual shooter to their roster to open up the court for Franz and Company.
Re: Who wants Gradey Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:49 pm
by gswhoops
ReggiesKnicks wrote:Wendell Carter Jr + Future 2nd for Gradey Dick
Toronto adds a long-term Center who, historically, has spaced the floor.
Orlando adds an actual shooter to their roster to open up the court for Franz and Company.
I don't think WCJ has this kind of value given his down year and extension.
Re: Who wants Gradey Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:51 pm
by ReggiesKnicks
gswhoops wrote:ReggiesKnicks wrote:Wendell Carter Jr + Future 2nd for Gradey Dick
Toronto adds a long-term Center who, historically, has spaced the floor.
Orlando adds an actual shooter to their roster to open up the court for Franz and Company.
I don't think WCJ has this kind of value given his down year and extension.
Make it the Denver 1st then.
I doubt Dick is worth a lottery pick in this draft.
I would also bet most teams look at Wendell Carter Jr and say "Variance" to his 3P shooting.
Re: Who wants Gradey Dick?
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:54 pm
by gswhoops
ReggiesKnicks wrote:gswhoops wrote:ReggiesKnicks wrote:Wendell Carter Jr + Future 2nd for Gradey Dick
Toronto adds a long-term Center who, historically, has spaced the floor.
Orlando adds an actual shooter to their roster to open up the court for Franz and Company.
I don't think WCJ has this kind of value given his down year and extension.
Make it the Denver 1st then.
I doubt Dick is worth a lottery pick in this draft.
I would also bet most teams look at Wendell Carter Jr and say "Variance" to his 3P shooting.
He might not be (I haven't spent enough time looking at this draft class TBH to say confidently one way or the other) but he's a solid young guy that Toronto likes, I don't think they're looking to move him for a collection of less valuable pieces unless it's a notable overpay.