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NYG · Post #1 » by **NYG** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:14 am

If the 76ers pick ends up outside top 6 post-draft lottery...

Isaiah Hartenstein, Lu Dort, Nikola Topic and 7th Overall via Philly for Kevin Durant

Suns add a legitimate center, a true defensive wing, a young point guard with a high ceiling and a top 7 pick in a solid draft in the early portion. This trade allows them to either try retooling around Booker or trade him for more rebuilding assets (Houston?).

Thunder get KD back without hurting their depth or picks owed substantially to pair with SGA. They would need a follow up deal for a center (Valanciunas?), but otherwise they would become a scary team.

ReggiesKnicks · Post #2 » by **ReggiesKnicks** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:19 am

This is a strong offer for KD, 2 starters, a prospect and a lottery pick.

Definitely on the high-side of his value.

NYG · Post #3 » by **NYG** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:23 am

ReggiesKnicks wrote:This is a strong offer for KD, 2 starters, a prospect and a lottery pick.

Definitely on the high-side of his value.

Would you as the Suns give the resulting roster a shot around Booker or trade him as a follow-up in a deal like...

Jalen Green, Reed Sheppard, Cam Whitmore and 3 Suns 1sts returned for Devin Booker

That would give Phoenixa nice young core to build around.

tmorgan · Post #4 » by **tmorgan** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:28 am

If I were running the Suns and could (financially and emotionally) endure the backlash, I’d burn an effigy of Matt Ishbia outside the stadium before every home game, trade absolutely everyone worth anything except Beal, and then make that bum play with g-leaguers until his contract runs out or he takes a discounted buyout.

Yeah, I know, payroll rules and all that. But that’s what I’d want to do.

NYG · Post #5 » by **NYG** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:30 am

Thunder could make a follow up deal of Dieng, Caruso and pick(s) for Claxton then be pretty set, no?

DrModesty · Post #6 » by **DrModesty** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:38 am

OKC is not interested in overpaying for KD. Especially not if it involves giving up one of the leagues best perimeter defenders and the center who fixed their glaring rebounding issues.

OKC does not have a combination of salary that they can give up for a contract of his size without creating more problems than they solve.

ReggiesKnicks · Post #7 » by **ReggiesKnicks** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:41 am

NYG wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:This is a strong offer for KD, 2 starters, a prospect and a lottery pick.

Definitely on the high-side of his value.

Would you as the Suns give the resulting roster a shot around Booker or trade him as a follow-up in a deal like...

Jalen Green, Reed Sheppard, Cam Whitmore and 3 Suns 1sts returned for Devin Booker

That would give Phoenixa nice young core to build around.

I'd tear it down to the studs but I think Phoenix keeps Booker, ultimately.

DirtyDez · Post #8 » by **DirtyDez** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 4:21 am

A frontcourt of KD/Chet is risky as hell from a dependability aspect.

MessiahUjiri · Post #9 » by **MessiahUjiri** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:21 am

Instead of Hartenstein, I think they can offer J-Will, who is an upgrade. Also, the pick can be a lower one. They have the ability to make it multiple picks too.

Basically Hartenstein provides insurance against Chet’s fragility, so they shouldn’t trade him. JWill can be expended since Durant can replace his position.

JWill + Dort + Topic + picks is a solid offer.

giberish · Post #10 » by **giberish** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:36 am

MessiahUjiri wrote:Instead of Hartenstein, I think they can offer J-Will, who is an upgrade. Also, the pick can be a lower one. They have the ability to make it multiple picks too.

Basically Hartenstein provides insurance against Chet’s fragility, so they shouldn’t trade him. JWill can be expended since Durant can replace his position.

JWill + Dort + Topic + picks is a solid offer.

JWill + Dort + Topic is already an overpay. KD isn't that elite anymore.

giberish · Post #11 » by **giberish** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:36 am

shrink · Post #12 » by **shrink** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:58 am

I like ThunDurant a lot better than ThunderAnt

pipfan · Post #13 » by **pipfan** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 6:25 am

I think OKC has to pass
KD has value still, but the Thunder have a good thing going-no reason to rock the boat

Suns should deal Booker to Hou (Green, Reed, picks back-maybe Whitmore?)
KD should go to highest bidder
Try to buy out Beal (would he take a huge pay cut to be a FA on a new Suns' rebuild?)

Rebuild around Green, Reed and picks and start all over

Post #14 » by **zimpy27** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:01 am

OKC can salary match Durant with Caruso, Joe, Ousmane, Topic

Why not do that? And add picks?

SGA, Dort, Jalen, Durant, Chet
Ajay, Cason, Wiggins, Kenrich, iHart
Jones, Jaylin

They also open up 3 spots for drafted player to slot in. They need those spots. Plus a taxMLE player.

babyjax13 · Post #15 » by **babyjax13** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:36 am

MessiahUjiri wrote:Instead of Hartenstein, I think they can offer J-Will, who is an upgrade. Also, the pick can be a lower one. They have the ability to make it multiple picks too.

Basically Hartenstein provides insurance against Chet’s fragility, so they shouldn’t trade him. JWill can be expended since Durant can replace his position.

JWill + Dort + Topic + picks is a solid offer.

Williams is more valuable than Durant.

jayjaysee · Post #16 » by **jayjaysee** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 12:56 pm

I don’t think KD returns as much as these offers personally.. They feel similar to what Dallas offer has to include PJ and Gafford, but then still wants two firsts on top. I just don’t see that for a 37 year old. But I guess we will see.

If OKC gets a top 8 pick thanks to Philly, they really should just keep it. That’s going to be a nice contract/player to have the first 3 years of them paying heavy tax.

I do like KD back in OKC though. And do think you could build a KD/Richards for IH, Caruso, smaller salary, and “pick(s)” deal that doesn’t include the Philly lottery pick.

Post #17 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 2:19 pm

MessiahUjiri wrote:Instead of Hartenstein, I think they can offer J-Will, who is an upgrade. Also, the pick can be a lower one. They have the ability to make it multiple picks too.

Basically Hartenstein provides insurance against Chet’s fragility, so they shouldn’t trade him. JWill can be expended since Durant can replace his position.

JWill + Dort + Topic + picks is a solid offer.

OKC isn't moving Williams for a year or two of KD let alone adding Dort to it plus picks.

I think KD to OKC makes a lot of sense but OKC isn't going to go crazy just to outbid Houston

cjmcallist · Post #18 » by **cjmcallist** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:54 pm

I totally get why non-OKC fans think this makes sense. But I have less than zero interest. I don't think we need to trade for him to win a championship.

I'd rather NOT win one than win one with him contributing.

MessiahUjiri · Post #19 » by **MessiahUjiri** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:16 pm

Mr Swagtastic wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:Instead of Hartenstein, I think they can offer J-Will, who is an upgrade. Also, the pick can be a lower one. They have the ability to make it multiple picks too.

Basically Hartenstein provides insurance against Chet’s fragility, so they shouldn’t trade him. JWill can be expended since Durant can replace his position.

JWill + Dort + Topic + picks is a solid offer.

OKC isn't moving Williams for a year or two of KD let alone adding Dort to it plus picks.

I think KD to OKC makes a lot of sense but OKC isn't going to go crazy just to outbid Houston

While I understand not wanting to trade JWill, but KD is a clear step up from him. It’s an “all in” move if you think he is the final piece to a championship.

I also think Hartenstein is positionally more important to OKC based on what he provides, compared to JWills offense at the 3/4.

The good thing is, there are many different types of trade packages OKC can put together for Durant, because they’re flush with assets.

Post #20 » by **gswhoops** » Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:51 pm

MessiahUjiri wrote:
Mr Swagtastic wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:Instead of Hartenstein, I think they can offer J-Will, who is an upgrade. Also, the pick can be a lower one. They have the ability to make it multiple picks too.

Basically Hartenstein provides insurance against Chet’s fragility, so they shouldn’t trade him. JWill can be expended since Durant can replace his position.

JWill + Dort + Topic + picks is a solid offer.

OKC isn't moving Williams for a year or two of KD let alone adding Dort to it plus picks.

I think KD to OKC makes a lot of sense but OKC isn't going to go crazy just to outbid Houston

While I understand not wanting to trade JWill, but KD is a clear step up from him. It’s an “all in” move if you think he is the final piece to a championship.

I also think Hartenstein is positionally more important to OKC based on what he provides, compared to JWills offense at the 3/4.

The good thing is, there are many different types of trade packages OKC can put together for Durant, because they’re flush with assets.

If they were the same age, or even close, then it might make sense. But Jdub is 23 and KD is 37.