Ty Jerome prediction,destiny new contract

[Astaluego]

At 27, he's just entering his prime. The kid has exploded. He's a really good offensive guard, an elite sniper, and it's probably going to be difficult for the Cavs to retain him. So what's your prediction about his next contract and where he'll go?

[Thaddy]

Probably MLE at best, one season isn't enough to get a massive contract. Money is tight around the league too now with the aprons.

[brackdan70]

Does Cleveland have Bird rights?
Seems like a guy that could sign a 3/36 or 4/48type of deal. Some comparable guys have gotten more, some less.

[JRoy]

Someone will overpay.

[Scoot McGroot]

Does Cleveland have Bird rights?
Seems like a guy that could sign a 3/36 or 4/48type of deal. Some comparable guys have gotten more, some less.

They’ll have Early Bird Rights, so they can pay up to 105% of the league average annual salary. Coming into this season, that would have allowed a contract of at least two years, starting at just over $12.5m in year one, and allowing 8% annual raises. So, not quite MLE, but maybe just right for a 2 year deal for Jerome? Roughly 2/25?

[toooskies]

Does Cleveland have Bird rights?
Seems like a guy that could sign a 3/36 or 4/48type of deal. Some comparable guys have gotten more, some less.

Cleveland has Early Bird rights, so they can pay him the league average salary x 105% at most. It ends up being competitive with the MLE, but since it's calculated differently it varies year-to-year. The contract length needs to be a minimum of two guaranteed years, no options on the first two.

Cleveland is almost certainly going to offer him the most they can. The question is whether Jerome wants a two-year deal (so if Jerome has a Brunson-like explosion, he can cash in before he gets too old) or something longer for more security. My guess is Cleveland's offer ends up being a 2+1PO.

Other teams are going to have to worry about fitting him in. Jerome is tall for a guard but has short arms and isn't very athletic-- he has zero dunks in the NBA. He hasn't been picked on much defensively, but I also haven't seen teams try much. He might be a low-to-midrange starter at the guard spot but teams usually aren't looking to pay for that when he's probably close to his ceiling right now.

Ultimately if he has a good playoff run he's likely to earn a big offer or two and some team might even offload a contract to sign him. If he and/or the Cavs fizzle out, the Cavs should be able to retain him.

The team I'm most worried about signing him is Brooklyn. They could use exactly his scoring punch and they have the cap space to go get him, and Jerome could start there. The question is whether they are trying to assemble a good team this offseason or if they tank another year and fill their cap space with expiring contracts. That probably doesn't get decided until after the draft lottery.

Edit: There are a few other teams with enough cap space to offer Jerome $20m or so, but they also have other targets (i.e. Detroit has to pick between Jerome and Beasley, Chicago picks between Giddey and a Jerome offer, Golden State picks between Kuminga and Jerome). But if those teams lose their current guy (i.e. if Brooklyn signs Kuminga/Giddey), Jerome might be their secondary target.

[jbk1234]

It really depends on the Nets, or the Pistons if they decide not to bring back Beasley. The team that should be kicking itself is the Magic. None of KCP, Issac, nor WCJ will be easily moved and signing/extending them was unnecessary.

[JRoy]

He might be a good fit in ORL.

[jbk1234]

He might be a good fit in ORL.

They presently have $200M on the books for next season.

[JRoy]

He might be a good fit in ORL.

They presently have $200M on the books for next season.

Their last offseason was disappointing.

[oldncreaky]

Does Cleveland have Bird rights?
Seems like a guy that could sign a 3/36 or 4/48type of deal. Some comparable guys have gotten more, some less.

Cleveland has Early Bird rights, so they can pay him the league average salary x 105% at most. It ends up being competitive with the MLE, but since it's calculated differently it varies year-to-year. The contract length needs to be a minimum of two guaranteed years, so player option allowed on the second year to allow him to sign for a year and then another year.

Cleveland is almost certainly going to offer him the most they can. The question is whether Jerome wants a two-year deal (so if Jerome has a Brunson-like explosion, he can cash in before he gets too old) or something longer for more security. My guess is Cleveland's offer ends up being a 2+1PO.

Other teams are going to have to worry about fitting him in. Jerome is tall for a guard but has short arms and isn't very athletic-- he has zero dunks in the NBA. He hasn't been picked on much defensively, but I also haven't seen teams try much. He might be a low-to-midrange starter at the guard spot but teams usually aren't looking to pay for that when he's probably close to his ceiling right now.

Ultimately if he has a good playoff run he's likely to earn a big offer or two and some team might even offload a contract to sign him. If he and/or the Cavs fizzle out, the Cavs should be able to retain him.

The team I'm most worried about signing him is Brooklyn. They could use exactly his scoring punch and they have the cap space to go get him, and Jerome could start there. The question is whether they are trying to assemble a good team this offseason or if they tank another year and fill their cap space with expiring contracts. That probably doesn't get decided until after the draft lottery.

Edit: There are a few other teams with enough cap space to offer Jerome $20m or so, but they also have other targets (i.e. Detroit has to pick between Jerome and Beasley, Chicago picks between Giddey and a Jerome offer, Golden State picks between Kuminga and Jerome). But if those teams lose their current guy (i.e. if Brooklyn signs Kuminga/Giddey), Jerome might be their secondary target.

The playoffs can obviously change some things, but right now I'd expect DET to prioritise retaining Beasley over obtaining another guard to come off the bench. I also think their is a small chance that DET retains Schroeder if Dennis is finally willing to accept that he is not going to get a role as a starter anywhere else.

Also, if DET uses their NTMLE on any position, I'd hope it would be on a PF rather than a G. Tobias Harris is having a nice second half of the season, but we still need front line help.

[bgrep14]

I think he'll get like 3/30 million pretty easily.

[Niko23]

Question for the Cap Experts......if we get rid of Okoro or Strus does that help us increase his offer?

[Scoot McGroot]

Question for the Cap Experts......if we get rid of Okoro or Strus does that help us increase his offer?

Kinda, but not meaningfully so.

You won’t have cap space no matter what. At that point, you’ll have early bird rights, starting hypothetically at a max of around $12.5m (but depends on where the average salary for THIS CURRENT YEAR comes in during the moratorium). Cleveland is $20m over the tax with only 10 guys signed for next year, so while dumping Okoro and Strus would clear tax space , it wouldn’t even get you far enough under to use the full non taxpayer MLE of around $14m, which is only around $1.5m more than what you can already offer with Early Bird?

[MartinsIzAfraud]

He might be a good fit in ORL.

They presently have $200M on the books for next season.

magic will be forced to make trades to get better vs using the MLE. I think once they use MLE they're hard capped & I'm not sure they're going to want to do that with soo many question marks still.

have a feeling AB isn't in Orlando opening night next year

[jayjaysee]

Orlando’s financial concerns don’t actually kick in until 2026-2027..

Dumping Cole Anthony and not keeping Gary Harris take care of their tax problems for next season, if they do just want to run the team back again.

But I think if they’re looking at Jerome, it’s likely because they’re moving on from KCP right? I don’t see the team wanting to pay both those guys.

If you dump Cole and drop Harris, use most of MLE on Ty and then try to bring back a 10-15 mil PG using KCP’s salary slot in some three team trade. Feels like you’re right under/around the tax line.

[vege]

Does Cleveland have Bird rights?
Seems like a guy that could sign a 3/36 or 4/48type of deal. Some comparable guys have gotten more, some less.

Cleveland has Early Bird rights, so they can pay him the league average salary x 105% at most. It ends up being competitive with the MLE, but since it's calculated differently it varies year-to-year. The contract length needs to be a minimum of two guaranteed years, so player option allowed on the second year to allow him to sign for a year and then another year.

Cleveland is almost certainly going to offer him the most they can. The question is whether Jerome wants a two-year deal (so if Jerome has a Brunson-like explosion, he can cash in before he gets too old) or something longer for more security. My guess is Cleveland's offer ends up being a 2+1PO.

Other teams are going to have to worry about fitting him in. Jerome is tall for a guard but has short arms and isn't very athletic-- he has zero dunks in the NBA. He hasn't been picked on much defensively, but I also haven't seen teams try much. He might be a low-to-midrange starter at the guard spot but teams usually aren't looking to pay for that when he's probably close to his ceiling right now.

Ultimately if he has a good playoff run he's likely to earn a big offer or two and some team might even offload a contract to sign him. If he and/or the Cavs fizzle out, the Cavs should be able to retain him.

The team I'm most worried about signing him is Brooklyn. They could use exactly his scoring punch and they have the cap space to go get him, and Jerome could start there. The question is whether they are trying to assemble a good team this offseason or if they tank another year and fill their cap space with expiring contracts. That probably doesn't get decided until after the draft lottery.

Edit: There are a few other teams with enough cap space to offer Jerome $20m or so, but they also have other targets (i.e. Detroit has to pick between Jerome and Beasley, Chicago picks between Giddey and a Jerome offer, Golden State picks between Kuminga and Jerome). But if those teams lose their current guy (i.e. if Brooklyn signs Kuminga/Giddey), Jerome might be their secondary target.

The playoffs can obviously change some things, but right now I'd expect DET to prioritise retaining Beasley over obtaining another guard to come off the bench. I also think their is a small chance that DET retains Schroeder if Dennis is finally willing to accept that he is not going to get a role as a starter anywhere else.

Also, if DET uses their NTMLE on any position, I'd hope it would be on a PF rather than a G. Tobias Harris is having a nice second half of the season, but we still need front line help.

Our MLE is going to Beasley.