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The Heat are 9th in the East... literally the last spot of the teams trying to compete.. I hear the Heat don't do rebuilds (there were rumors that there was a mutual interest in reuniting with KD)... So what do you think they will do or what would you do, this offseason?

This is somewhat contingent on whether Miami ends up with 2 picks in the 2025 Draft (their own and from GS). If Miami gets knocked out in the play-in (and barring some unforeseen jump into the top-3), Miami could end up with a pick around #10 and another around #20. That would give Miami more chips to deal to do the following:

1. Pursue Durant

2. Pursue Zion if the Durant trade doesn't materialize. I think Miami will see if New Orleans is ready to move on from Zion.

3. I think Miami will be in touch with Kyrie Irving (who basically has to opt in) to see if there is any interest there. Irving is likely out until ~December, but I could see a scenario where Miami tried to trade for him at the deadline next season.

4. Trade Rozier

SA37 wrote:This is somewhat contingent on whether Miami ends up with 2 picks in the 2025 Draft (their own and from GS). If Miami gets knocked out in the play-in (and barring some unforeseen jump into the top-3), Miami could end up with a pick around #10 and another around #20. That would give Miami more chips to deal to do the following:

1. Pursue Durant

2. Pursue Zion if the Durant trade doesn't materialize. I think Miami will see if New Orleans is ready to move on from Zion.

3. I think Miami will be in touch with Kyrie Irving (who basically has to opt in) to see if there is any interest there. Irving is likely out until ~December, but I could see a scenario where Miami tried to trade for him at the deadline next season.

4. Trade Rozier

I like that idea from Zion to Miami...does your offer include Ware?

The Heat should do what they won't do... a proper rebuild. Move Bam for the best package that puts him in a good situation, get as many picks back as possible. Simply tear it all down. Get yourself the next SGA in the draft and go from there.

I think the plan is still to convey their pick, punt next season, and use cap space in 2026. They didn't want to significantly add to Butler to get Durant at the deadline. I think they'd like to have a core of Bam, Herro, Ware, and maybe Jovic with very little salary on the books. If a player gets moved, it'll be Wiggins for players who aren't quite as good, but are expiring.

Wonder if there's a Bam to Memphis trade possibility?

This isn't necessarily what I would do, but what I think they will do.

I think the plan is to maintain flexibility while hanging onto a core of Bam, Herro, Ware, Jovic, and JJJ. The ideal is to augment that core with a first option, but they're also looking to add to that core in the draft. If they miss the playoffs, I trust that team to draft two players and hit on both.

They have no need to panic. They have young talent, two picks in this draft, one a lottery pick (assuming they miss the playoffs), and no bad salary (Robinson and Rozier would both be expiring). All they'll really need to worry about is moving Wiggins and that can be part of a sign and trade in 2026.

Other than that, sign guys to one year deals with the promise of showcasing talent. If an opportunity to get better by acquiring a star comes about, you do it.

Astaluego wrote:

SA37 wrote:This is somewhat contingent on whether Miami ends up with 2 picks in the 2025 Draft (their own and from GS). If Miami gets knocked out in the play-in (and barring some unforeseen jump into the top-3), Miami could end up with a pick around #10 and another around #20. That would give Miami more chips to deal to do the following:

1. Pursue Durant

2. Pursue Zion if the Durant trade doesn't materialize. I think Miami will see if New Orleans is ready to move on from Zion.

3. I think Miami will be in touch with Kyrie Irving (who basically has to opt in) to see if there is any interest there. Irving is likely out until ~December, but I could see a scenario where Miami tried to trade for him at the deadline next season.

4. Trade Rozier

I like that idea from Zion to Miami...does your offer include Ware?

I would be stunned if Miami included Ware for Zion

Pursue Kevin Durant. I think package centred both the Warriors/Heat 1st round pick this year along with,multiple future Heat 1st round picks,along with Andrew Wiggins would make a lot of sense for both teams.If not, unless another huge star become available, it may simply be time to start a rebuild. Trading both Bam and Tyler Herro tot he higher bidder.

Maybe Mark Williams + filler + 2027/2028 Heat pick + Mavericks 2027 pick for Bam Adebayo or Nic Claxton + the all of the Knicks picks for Bam Adebayo.



Reed Shepperd + Cam Whitmore + all of the Suns picks for Tyler Herro and Jaime Jaquez or KCP + Jett Howard, along with the Nuggets 2025 and 2027 1st round picks + the Magic 1st round pick this year for Tyler Herro.

the_process wrote:Wonder if there's a Bam to Memphis trade possibility?

I can't see one

See if they can get a high-impact player for Rozier+Robinson+#11 (I think they make the play-in and playoffs so #15)+ future 1st, maybe dangle one of JJJ or Jovic if they are trading for an actual All-Star caliber player.

Otherwise, stand pat, draft at #11 or #15, gun for the #4-6 with player development and using the MLE.

the_process wrote:Wonder if there's a Bam to Memphis trade possibility?

Built around who? What is a fair offer?

Astaluego wrote:

SA37 wrote:This is somewhat contingent on whether Miami ends up with 2 picks in the 2025 Draft (their own and from GS). If Miami gets knocked out in the play-in (and barring some unforeseen jump into the top-3), Miami could end up with a pick around #10 and another around #20. That would give Miami more chips to deal to do the following:

1. Pursue Durant

2. Pursue Zion if the Durant trade doesn't materialize. I think Miami will see if New Orleans is ready to move on from Zion.

3. I think Miami will be in touch with Kyrie Irving (who basically has to opt in) to see if there is any interest there. Irving is likely out until ~December, but I could see a scenario where Miami tried to trade for him at the deadline next season.

4. Trade Rozier

I like that idea from Zion to Miami...does your offer include Ware?

Hard to say because I don't know what kind of upside the FO thinks Ware has. Many Heat fans on here are REALLY high on Ware; I am one of the few (if not the only one) who isn't; there is a similar dynamic with Jovic.

If I had to guess, Miami would probably have to include Ware if Miami makes the playoffs because they wouldn't be able to trade a pick -- aside from the ~20th from GS this year -- until 2030 at the earliest (2026 would transfer to OKC and 2028 to I forget which team). Even if Miami misses the playoffs, it would have ~#10 and #20 this year and then could only offer swaps of a pick around 2030.

So probably the best Miami could offer would be Ware, Rozier, filler, and then probably a 1st and a swap or two down the line. Or maybe JJJ gets included.

In any case, I don't think NO is going to entertain offers for Zion. He's still 24 and under contract for 3 seasons beyond this one, and apparently his contract is incentive-laden and protects the Pels quite well. There's no rush to trade him, and Zion's value is probably about as low as it can go right now.

louc1970 wrote:

the_process wrote:Wonder if there's a Bam to Memphis trade possibility?

Built around who? What is a fair offer?

Just thinking out loud because Bam would be a great fit there. And Miami can move forward with Ware.

I assume Bane would the main piece going out. Not necessarily to Miami, though.

the_process wrote:

louc1970 wrote:

the_process wrote:Wonder if there's a Bam to Memphis trade possibility?

Built around who? What is a fair offer?

Just thinking out loud because Bam would be a great fit there. And Miami can move forward with Ware.

I assume Bane would the main piece going out. Not necessarily to Miami, though.

My opinion, but I don't think Miami would trade Bam unless Giannis, Wemby, Jokic, SGA, or Doncic were coming back. Embiid would be on that list if it weren't for his injuries.

Ware is probably 2-3 years away from playing at a high level consistently -- assuming he ever gets there. People -- in particular, Heat fans -- seem to have forgotten about Hassan Whiteside.

Next season Bam will be 28. So, he has 3 more good seasons before he should see a decline.
Herro just turned 25.
Ware turns 21 in April.
Jovic will be 22, Jaquez just turned 23.

Step 1 decide who the Heat want on the team for the next 5 years. For me, Ware, Jovic, Jaquez are the keepers
Step 2 move everyone else for expiring role players and picks. Wiggins, Rozier, Robinson, Anderson for certain move them.

Question becomes what would be the offer for Bam? Is it possible to build a Bam for Sengun/Whitmore/pick trade?
Same for Herro. What is the trade available.

Ware/#11/GS pick/Rozier, plus a 2030 Miami pick for Zion?

NO has Ware/Missi for the next few years to see which is best-even play them together a bit since they're so athletic.

NO would have a top 5 pick, plus #11 and the GS pick to rebuild with Murphy, Jones, Missi, Ware, Hawkins, Alvardo and Murray/CJ/KellyO as vet leaders

Miami goes with
Bam/Jovic/Love
Zion/Anderson/JJJ
Wiggins/Robinson/JJJ
Herro/Highsmith/Robinson
Mitchell/?

That could be a fun team

pipfan wrote:Ware/#11/GS pick/Rozier, plus a 2030 Miami pick for Zion?

NO has Ware/Missi for the next few years to see which is best-even play them together a bit since they're so athletic.

NO would have a top 5 pick, plus #11 and the GS pick to rebuild with Murphy, Jones, Missi, Ware, Hawkins, Alvardo and Murray/CJ/KellyO as vet leaders

Miami goes with
Bam/Jovic/Love
Zion/Anderson/JJJ
Wiggins/Robinson/JJJ
Herro/Highsmith/Robinson
Mitchell/?

That could be a fun team

I don't see why we'd do that. He's such a risk and, while I recognize that the potential reward is high, I'm not sure anyone else would come close on that sort of offer.

wadenation305 wrote:The Heat should do what they won't do... a proper rebuild. Move Bam for the best package that puts him in a good situation, get as many picks back as possible. Simply tear it all down. Get yourself the next SGA in the draft and go from there.

100% this. Get the big contracts off the books. Clear as much space as possible. Get as many good youth players and picks as possible.

Players want to play in Miami. Use that to your advantage. Not sure who the best free agents are the next two seasons, but Miami will be at the top of the list if they have cap space. And it might take more than two seasons if no good free agents are available so in that case you keep building youth and keep your options open because anyone is available now.

The Spurs, Rockets, OKC, and Jazz have so many assets I don’t see teams like Miami beating those guys until they deplete their cupboard of assets for a player like Giannis. So free agency seems like the best path for Miami.

pipfan wrote:Ware/#11/GS pick/Rozier, plus a 2030 Miami pick for Zion?

NO has Ware/Missi for the next few years to see which is best-even play them together a bit since they're so athletic.

NO would have a top 5 pick, plus #11 and the GS pick to rebuild with Murphy, Jones, Missi, Ware, Hawkins, Alvardo and Murray/CJ/KellyO as vet leaders

Miami goes with
Bam/Jovic/Love
Zion/Anderson/JJJ
Wiggins/Robinson/JJJ
Herro/Highsmith/Robinson
Mitchell/?

That could be a fun team

Way too much for the risk.