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MAVS
In:A.Reaves/SRP 25 (By Wolves now 34)
Out: Gafford/MAVS 25 FRP/Lakers 29

The Mavs land one of the hottest guards, just entering his prime and improving.

Reaves/Klay/Marshall/PJ/AD
B.Williams/Christie/Martín/FA/Powell
*KI/Hardy/O-Max/Edwards/K.Jones

HAWKS
In: Gafford
Out:Lakers 25(now 24)

With two draft picks, they use the worst one, they get a very good fit for T. Young with an elite rim runner.

WOLVES
In:Lakers 25(now 24)
Out:DDV/SRP 25 (now 34)

They get a late FRP and savings...to facilitate NAW/Naz extensions and fill gaps with rookie contracts, without the payroll skyrocketing too much.


LAKERS
In: DDV/MAVS 25/Lakers 29
Out:Reaves

Moving from Reaves to Donte is a talent downgrade, but a better fit alongside Luka. They also get good assets to use for other obvious needs, like a starting-caliber center and more athleticism and defense. Now, could they make a solid offer (even an overpay) to Angie for Kessler (for example) and go for a starting-caliber wing like Wiggins? (For another example)

Don't really like this for the Wolves, on value it's fine, but they are better off using that SRP to dump Conely's last year and keeping DDV and re-signing NAW.
For the rest, it's good, Lakers should make the effort to take Gafford themselves.

Feels like a massive overpay by DAL.

Reaves is not worth #12 + '29 LAL 1st (unprotected) + Gafford.

Hmm...

Bit of an overpay for Dallas.
Good for Hawks.
Minnesota moves up 10 spots while losing DDV just so they have two picks around #20? That doesn't make sense.
Really good for Lakers.

#12 + future 1st is not an overpay for Reaves.

Mavrelous wrote:#12 + future 1st is not an overpay for Reaves.

Gafford as well.

ReggiesKnicks wrote:Hmm...

Bit of an overpay for Dallas.
Good for Hawks.
Minnesota moves up 10 spots while losing DDV just so they have two picks around #20? That doesn't make sense.
Really good for Lakers.

They're also saving DDV's salary...to help them with the Naz/NAW re-signing. I think the draft picks are very valuable for such an expensive team, and filling holes on cheap contracts, especially (in my opinion), is projected to be a flat but very deep draft, full of players who will have NBA careers.

Austin Reaves isn't worth Donte DiVincenzo by himself, let alone him and 2 1st round picks.

ReggiesKnicks wrote:

Mavrelous wrote:#12 + future 1st is not an overpay for Reaves.

Gafford as well.

Gafford is ~34 that's coming back...

I have some real doubts about how good Reaves is when he is the primary schemed guy by defenses as opposed to the 3rd guy. Especially when he's been 2nd fiddle to two of the guys defenses most special scheme to stop, Luka maybe being only behind Jokic, but maybe not even him.

Not saying he can't be your primary offensive weapon pending Kyrie, but I don't know that I want to use up all my assets hoping he can do something he's never had to do.

But more importantly if the current Dallas regime thought he was a good fit, he'd have been in the original deal. And LA wouldn't have balked.

And then finally we have to discuss the value of him on the remainder of his contract. That's not being factored in all for some reason here.

I don't have any doubts about Reaves being primary scorer on a contender, he can't be, he's a stopgap until Kyrie comes back, and Mavs can play 3 guard rotation witb Kyrie and Christie.
Reaves is an expiring, and it does take from his value, he is also paid 12M when he's at least double that, this adds to his value.
He's not a single 1st value IMO and adding #12 on draft day is about right, logistically, it'll be hard for the Mavs to trade for a guard his level because of the salary, Reaves also brings familiarity of 3.5 years playing with AD.

Astaluego wrote:

ReggiesKnicks wrote:Hmm...

Bit of an overpay for Dallas.
Good for Hawks.
Minnesota moves up 10 spots while losing DDV just so they have two picks around #20? That doesn't make sense.
Really good for Lakers.

They're also saving DDV's salary...to help them with the Naz/NAW re-signing. I think the draft picks are very valuable for such an expensive team, and filling holes on cheap contracts, especially (in my opinion), is projected to be a flat but very deep draft, full of players who will have NBA careers.

DDV is signed to a really good deal. The Wolves aren’t dumping him to move up 10 spots (in a draft where they currently have the ~18 pick.)

If anything, they’d let NAW walk and play Jaylen Clark more.

Mavrelous wrote:I don't have any doubts about Reaves being primary scorer on a contender, he can't be, he's a stopgap until Kyrie comes back, and Mavs can play 3 guard rotation witb Kyrie and Christie.
Reaves is an expiring, and it does take from his value, he is also paid 12M when he's at least double that, this adds to his value.
He's not a single 1st value IMO and adding #12 on draft day is about right, logistically, it'll be hard for the Mavs to trade for a guard his level because of the salary, Reaves also brings familiarity of 3.5 years playing with AD.

Meh Dallas has movable salary so no interest in paying more assets because he's cheap for one year. That isn't really the value gain you are selling. Give him even one extra year, and okay. But here, its largely inconsequential so if I get a guy with a higher salary but who doesn't cost me a lottery pick, an unprotected 1st, and Gafford that seems a much better approach for a guy you acknowledge is a stopgap.

And thats without getting into if Dallas will pay him. They wouldn't pay Brunson. They wouldn't pay Luka freaking Doncic. We don't know if they will pay Kyrie again, so I'm pretty sus about assuming they will pay Reaves. And to pay that much you need to feel like the chances of giving him his next contract are reasonably high.

Just seems there are much cheaper options to choose unless one believes Reaves is just a whole tier better player, but we both agree he isn't so...

I think if you have Atlanta agreeing to their deal you just do it..

Losing Gafford hurts but also opens up using almost the full MLE (pending what Kyrie takes) and have rookies hopefully developing.. or you lose Powell/Hardy etc around edges..

I don’t like trading “3 firsts” for Reaves when the stars of 2026 free agency have mostly been taken off the table (I know they haven’t been but assume JJJ/Luka/Fox will all be extended early)

I think the consensus would be that the MAVS are overpaying here and the WOLVES would rather keep Donte.. send the Mavs an SRP+O-Max to sweeten the pot and keep the Lakers' pick?

MAVS
In: Reaves/Milton
Out: Gafford/O-Max/FRP25+SRP

LAKERS
In: Gafford/O-Max+FRP25/SRP
Out:Reaves/Milton

Astaluego wrote:I think the consensus would be that the MAVS are overpaying here and the WOLVES would rather keep Donte.. send the Mavs an SRP+O-Max to sweeten the pot and keep the Lakers' pick?

MAVS
In: Reaves/Milton
Out: Gafford/O-Max/FRP25+SRP

LAKERS
In: Gafford/O-Max+FRP25/SRP
Out:Reaves/Milton

I think LAL really needs to plan what they’re building around Luka this offseason. Right now Reaves is the best long term piece they have. Trading him for a late lottery pick doesn’t really solve the post-LBJ question.

Maybe the plan is to try to clear all the 2026 salary and go for free agency hoping LBJ sticks around another year at a big discount? Or just retires?. I just don’t see the free agent.

For Dallas, I think they need to be pretty careful if they are trading all their limited-draft currency.

Can easily end up having a couple year run like Brooklyn did or like what it looks like is coming in Phoenix..

Aim lower / be safer. Or aim higher and really go for a title.

But yeah, Dallas probably gets a good deal in this trade and the OP is probably pretty fair. Just not a fan of it personally.

Astaluego wrote:I think the consensus would be that the MAVS are overpaying here and the WOLVES would rather keep Donte.. send the Mavs an SRP+O-Max to sweeten the pot and keep the Lakers' pick?

MAVS
In: Reaves/Milton
Out: Gafford/O-Max/FRP25+SRP

LAKERS
In: Gafford/O-Max+FRP25/SRP
Out:Reaves/Milton

This still feels like a big overpay for Austin Reaves. If Anfernee Simons is not worth a late lottery pick and another player that also be flipped for additional assets like Daniel Gafford, then Austin Reaves sure isn't worth that.

I don't think Atlanta is likely going to give up a 1st for Gafford here and absorb his deal into the MLE/TPE which I assume is what is happening since Atlanta has no outgoing salary. OO has established himself as the starter and getting a 20 minute backup center can be done in FA like Sharpe or resigning Capela. Atlanta doesn't have the talent in place to do not draft BPA yet.

jayjaysee wrote:

Astaluego wrote:I think the consensus would be that the MAVS are overpaying here and the WOLVES would rather keep Donte.. send the Mavs an SRP+O-Max to sweeten the pot and keep the Lakers' pick?

MAVS
In: Reaves/Milton
Out: Gafford/O-Max/FRP25+SRP

LAKERS
In: Gafford/O-Max+FRP25/SRP
Out:Reaves/Milton

I think LAL really needs to plan what they’re building around Luka this offseason. Right now Reaves is the best long term piece they have. Trading him for a late lottery pick doesn’t really solve the post-LBJ question.

Maybe the plan is to try to clear all the 2026 salary and go for free agency hoping LBJ sticks around another year at a big discount? Or just retires?. I just don’t see the free agent.

For Dallas, I think they need to be pretty careful if they are trading all their limited-draft currency.

Can easily end up having a couple year run like Brooklyn did or like what it looks like is coming in Phoenix..

Aim lower / be safer. Or aim higher and really go for a title.

But yeah, Dallas probably gets a good deal in this trade and the OP is probably pretty fair. Just not a fan of it personally.

If the idea is that the LAKERS then move that lottery pick+ for a starting caliber center (that's why I didn't have them getting Gafford originally).. I like Reaves a lot but if they want Luka to win a ring as a Lakers.. facing teams like THUNDER or BOSTON in the next few years, they'll have to trade him for strong defensive players.. in my opinion.

Astaluego wrote:

jayjaysee wrote:

Astaluego wrote:I think the consensus would be that the MAVS are overpaying here and the WOLVES would rather keep Donte.. send the Mavs an SRP+O-Max to sweeten the pot and keep the Lakers' pick?

MAVS
In: Reaves/Milton
Out: Gafford/O-Max/FRP25+SRP

LAKERS
In: Gafford/O-Max+FRP25/SRP
Out:Reaves/Milton

I think LAL really needs to plan what they’re building around Luka this offseason. Right now Reaves is the best long term piece they have. Trading him for a late lottery pick doesn’t really solve the post-LBJ question.

Maybe the plan is to try to clear all the 2026 salary and go for free agency hoping LBJ sticks around another year at a big discount? Or just retires?. I just don’t see the free agent.

For Dallas, I think they need to be pretty careful if they are trading all their limited-draft currency.

Can easily end up having a couple year run like Brooklyn did or like what it looks like is coming in Phoenix..

Aim lower / be safer. Or aim higher and really go for a title.

But yeah, Dallas probably gets a good deal in this trade and the OP is probably pretty fair. Just not a fan of it personally.

If the idea is that the LAKERS then move that lottery pick+ for a starting caliber center (that's why I didn't have them getting Gafford originally).. I like Reaves a lot but if they want Luka to win a ring as a Lakers.. facing teams like THUNDER or BOSTON in the next few years, they'll have to trade him for strong defensive players.. in my opinion.

Not disagreeing but..

Think LAL will need everything throughout the next few years though?

They got the MVP level player, and still has LBJ obviously. So don’t see them doing a deal that doesn’t make them better now.

The OP is great value for them and “sets them up” better to make other moves... So they should take it imo. It’s the other teams that are overpaying.

And once there’s not an overpay, LAL is better off keeping Reaves and figuring out the center spot how they were looking with the Mark Williams deal.