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How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:39 pm
by Dr Positivity
It seems like a good time to trade him before he either leaves in free agency or becomes their new Max Joe salary wise, after another middling year, but I don't think Hawks want to rebuild with development of players like Daniels, Johnson, Okongwu and Risacher.
Is there a guard for guard trade out there? Murray, Morant, LaMelo, etc.?
Re: How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:09 pm
by jayjaysee
Think Hawks want to see him and Jalen on the court together.. probably think the season goes differently with Jalen on the court instead of Niang.
Re: How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:15 pm
by LarsV8
Got to find another team with a good player who wants to rebuild, and a third team that prefers Trae to that teams player.
Sabonis and the Kings comes to mind.
Re: How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:37 pm
by Saints14
Trae is tough, the Hawks are pretty much built around him so trading him would likely signal a rebuild and it’s hard to identify a team that would give up a lot just to build around Trae with limited assets. I think their best course of action is standing pat and hoping that Jalen Johnson, Risacher and/or Daniels can make leaps
Re: How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:08 am
by CP War Hawks
jayjaysee wrote:Think Hawks want to see him and Jalen on the court together.. probably think the season goes differently with Jalen on the court instead of Niang.
Correct. Niang, Gueye, Capela, Nance, Barlow. 44 million worth of salary to bigs that either are not up to par, injured, or both.
Re: How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:02 am
by Xman
[quote="LarsV8"]Got to find another team with a good player who wants to rebuild, and a third team that prefers Trae to that teams player.
Sabonis and the Kings comes to mind.[/quote]
So,
Trae to Houston
Sabonis and Sheppard to Atlanta
Niang, JGreen, Cam, 9, 22 to Sacramento
Re: How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:04 am
by LarsV8
Xman wrote:LarsV8 wrote:Got to find another team with a good player who wants to rebuild, and a third team that prefers Trae to that teams player.
Sabonis and the Kings comes to mind.
So,
Trae to Houston
Sabonis and Sheppard to Atlanta
Niang, JGreen, Cam, 9, 22 to Sacramento
Sheppard shouldn't be needed.
Re: How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:29 am
by Myth
Scoot/Ayton(expiring)+picks?
Re: How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 3:29 am
by MessiahUjiri
#7, Immanuel Quickley, 2 2nds for Trae Young, #22
Get a top 10 pick, a scoring guard to work with Dyson. This satisfies the objective of staying competitive and getting out of the Trae business.
Trae is essentially UFA expiring, and he really needs the ball in his hands. That factors in value here. Raptors would need some assurances he will extend.
Re: How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 6:47 am
by HornetJail
I'd be very curious to see Trae and Melo in action together. Melo has been at his best when playing roughly 60/40 on-ball/off-ball rather than being asked to take on prime Harden usage like he had to do earlier this season.
Charlotte desperately needs playmaking wherever we can get it, idc whether it's a PG or a C. Melo/Miller/Bridges are versatile enough to play with anybody offensively.
Defense is a whole other story, but I absolutely cannot watch another season of our current offense. Jeff Peterson's aversion to anybody that can dribble is absolutely maddening.
Like with any other star that hits the market, I'm offering up our draft pick provided it's not Flagg... TBD on whether I'd trade Harper, but probably
Re: How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 7:13 am
by babyjax13
MessiahUjiri wrote:#7, Immanuel Quickley, 2 2nds for Trae Young, #22
Get a top 10 pick, a scoring guard to work with Dyson. This satisfies the objective of staying competitive and getting out of the Trae business.
Trae is essentially UFA expiring, and he really needs the ball in his hands. That factors in value here. Raptors would need some assurances he will extend.
I dont understand how they'd be competitive downgrading from Trae to Quickley.
Re: How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:26 am
by tbhawksfan1
I expect Trae and the Hawks will find the right contract to extend. Hawks need a vet center and JJ back healthy. Add two FRPs and a little FA help is likely how it will go
Re: How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:08 pm
by MessiahUjiri
babyjax13 wrote:MessiahUjiri wrote:#7, Immanuel Quickley, 2 2nds for Trae Young, #22
Get a top 10 pick, a scoring guard to work with Dyson. This satisfies the objective of staying competitive and getting out of the Trae business.
Trae is essentially UFA expiring, and he really needs the ball in his hands. That factors in value here. Raptors would need some assurances he will extend.
I dont understand how they'd be competitive downgrading from Trae to Quickley.
Well the obvious answer is that this is embracing a younger team, and taking the ball out of Trae’s dominant hands. The whole offense will change to allow others to grow, instead of standing and Trae watching.
Yeah they might take a step back initially, but they’re not even a playoff team now. Plus They’re gonna add a top 7 pick.
Re: How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:13 pm
by raleigh
Myth wrote:Scoot/Ayton(expiring)+picks?
This is my preferred trade, but it's definitely a risky one. This kind of move worked with the DJM-Daniels trade, so why not try it again?
MessiahUjiri wrote:#7, Immanuel Quickley, 2 2nds for Trae Young, #22
And this is the other end of the spectrum. I actually prefer this one with Mann/Barrett added in. It keeps the Hawks in the play-in battle, which ownership might prefer.
Re: How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:36 pm
by Astaluego
I would do the opposite, since they don't have their own draft picks. I would try to consolidate and get a star-level center. AD? Rudy Gobert? I think they have the assets to do it.
Re: How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:15 am
by Diop
seeing Houston shoot like crap, could he fit there?
Re: How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:19 am
by ReggiesKnicks
tbhawksfan1 wrote:I expect Trae and the Hawks will find the right contract to extend. Hawks need a vet center and JJ back healthy. Add two FRPs and a little FA help is likely how it will go
FRP isn't going to help the Hawks win in 2025-2026. It will help the Risacher timeline win, but not next year's Atlanta team.
Ultimately, I think that Trae is a good fit for a team going through a pseudo-rebuild like Atlanta. Trae allows more limited rookies to get on the court.
Trae/Risacher/Jalen/Krejci/Daniels is an intriguing core moving into the next 2-4 years.
Re: How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:21 am
by LarsV8
Diop wrote:seeing Houston shoot like crap, could he fit there?
Not sure.
It would be better, but what would the defensive drop off be?
Trae works best with Shooters and Rim Runner, and we don't really have that.
Re: How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:23 am
by Diop
LarsV8 wrote:Diop wrote:seeing Houston shoot like crap, could he fit there?
Not sure.
It would be better, but what would the defensive drop off be?
Trae works best with Shooters and Rim Runner, and we don't really have that.
yeah fair, no need for Houston to panic either.