Giannis for Flagg?

[Slim Charless]

Lets say that MIL goes down in this series-badly. Let's also say that BRK hits the lotto luck and gets Flagg. Giannis does NOT ask out but it seems like its coming and very soon. Do they make the swap? Straight up. BRK can absorb him without any help. Nets keep everything else they have, but lose Flagg...


Who says no? Or who needs to add value.

[Godaddycurse]

giannis says no probably

[jayjaysee]

Nets need to add more

[Slim Charless]

giannis says no probably

He is rumored to want NYC....

[hugepatsfan]

The Bucks don't trade Giannis unless he asked out. The Nets don't trade Flagg for Giannis unless they have other moves lined up to make their currently terrible roster around him viable to compete at a high level. Players of Giannis' caliber have real pull and he likely isn't going to BRK unless they make those corresponding moves anyway.

In a world where Giannis wants out and a team with a plausible chance of being competitive got the #1 pick, I think a straight swap or close to it would be fair (or if the team didn't have cap space then with neutral salary filler).

[Texas Chuck]

Giannis would decide. Bucks would be due more value. Brooklyn would gladly pay it.

[Slim Charless]

The Bucks don't trade Giannis unless he asked out. The Nets don't trade Flagg for Giannis unless they have other moves lined up to make their currently terrible roster around him viable to compete at a high level. Players of Giannis' caliber have real pull and he likely isn't going to BRK unless they make those corresponding moves anyway.

In a world where Giannis wants out and a team with a plausible chance of being competitive got the #1 pick, I think a straight swap or close to it would be fair (or if the team didn't have cap space then with neutral salary filler).

Nets would still have roughly 50 million available to spend. Plus another 3 picks (though I see they have MIL pick this year as well, so maybe that's included into the deal). So maybe they use those other 2 picks on win-now players. Along with CamJo and Claxton with Giannis in the frontcourt. That's not a bad start.

Not sure who is gonna be a FA this season but I'm sure they can get whoever the best guy is-especially if he is a G.

[Scoot McGroot]

giannis says no probably

He is rumored to want NYC....

He wouldn’t be saying no to Brooklyn, just no to Brooklyn giving up Flagg. I think he’d want to play with him? And Brooklyn has a bunch of other assets to pay instead of Flagg.

[babyjax13]

I'll be the lone voice saying I think it is a good deal. Milwaukee walks away with a clear foundational piece. Flagg likely won't be as good as Giannis, but he's about as good as most number one picks are and they'll have him for a long time. Giannis is 31 and will be amazing for a bit, still, but his decline is coming. I think it is worth it for Brooklyn to do it since they have assets and space to build a compelling team around him, but there is a large opportunity cost of a 12 year age difference. Maybe Brooklyn adds a bit (one good pick? two picks), but I don't think the value delta is massive.

[Skybox]

What if they could get Garnett and Paul Pierce with Giannis?

Actually, Giannis is a long way from washed...very interesting for both sides, imo. Flagg looks great, but Giannis is Giannis.

Does BRK really have another $50m in cap space AFTER absorbing Giannis' $54m?

That might be enough to lure a bunch of ring-chasers. Claxton and Cam Johnson are viable starters. Clowney & Sharpe are pretty solid...but that's still a LOT of spots to fill...there's no deal if they can't contend and suddenly $50m doesn't look like that much. BRK has multiple frps (4), so maybe they could pull in something big from outside by packaging some (obviously not Flagg's pick).

Maybe go all the way...

Giannis, Dame, and #26 for Flagg...if Giannis is out, MIL is blowing it up anyway. NY loves a headline - this would be a big one.

[Slim Charless]

giannis says no probably

He is rumored to want NYC....

He wouldn’t be saying no to Brooklyn, just no to Brooklyn giving up Flagg. I think he’d want to play with him? And Brooklyn has a bunch of other assets to pay instead of Flagg.

I think you're way off there. Flagg is nice but he's an 18 yr old kid. You think Giannis holds him in higher regard then actual NBA players? What does he care about forcing his team to get some guy who was in his prom last year?

The Nets CAN trade other stuff for him-then be left with nothing. Or they can make the straight swap...and use that other stuff to trade for other players. You know, guys that Giannis has spent the past decade playing with and against.

I would put money that Giannis doesn't care about an 18yr old kid.

[Slim Charless]

What if they could get Garnett and Paul Pierce with Giannis?

Actually, Giannis is a long way from washed...very interesting for both sides, imo. Flagg looks great, but Giannis is Giannis.

Does BRK really have another $50m in cap space AFTER absorbing Giannis' $54m?

That might be enough to lure a bunch of ring-chasers. Claxton and Cam Johnson are viable starters. Clowney & Sharpe are pretty solid...but that's still a LOT of spots to fill...there's no deal if they can't contend and suddenly $50m doesn't look like that much. BRK has multiple frps (4), so maybe they could pull in something big from outside by packaging some (obviously not Flagg's pick).

Maybe go all the way...

Giannis, Dame, and #26 for Flagg...if Giannis is out, MIL is blowing it up anyway. NY loves a headline - this would be a big one.

Actually it's more like 60 lol. Absolutely nuts. Can add him, then trade for another star. How about Booker? Or Trae? Both of them make less than 60.

[facothomas22]

I don't see Giannis wanting to go to the Nets,unless the Nets make additional roster moves before that in a way that's going to significantly improve the team. As it stands right now, the Nets have Cam Johnson, Cam Thomas,Nic Claxton,and De'Ron Sharpe.What do they got outside of those players? They don't have a good point guard(D'Angelo Russell does not count and that's only assuming the Nets would be willing to keep him in the 1st place). Their guard rotation overall outside of Cam Thomas isn't very good and Thomas is a poor defender, so look for a lot of defensive backcourt issues.The Wing depth is also not great outside of Cam Johnson. Is that situation really going be that much better for Giannis than staying with the Bucks?

Also value wise it's Giannis>Cooper Flagg, which complicate things even further since the Nets would need those assets to build a contending roster(this years Free Agent is looking quite bad and most of the Nets cap space would be used to bring in Giannis,unless they decided to give up Cam Johnson or Nic Claxton, which would the Nets lack of depth even worse). Really,unless the Nets significant moves before trading for Giannis ,I simply think Giannis would rescind his trade request if it turns out the Nets are the only team that would have the assets to realistically get him and are willing to make major roster changes(assuming OKC makes the finals,Rockets/Magic decide to run it back for another year,and Spurs don't view Giannis as a good fit next to Wemby).

[tacos]

Nets owe more

#1 pick is 1/3 likely to be a superstar 1/3 to be a regular star and 1/3 to 1/2 likely to be a disappointment

A sure Superstar is worth more

[Slim Charless]

Nets owe more

#1 pick is 1/3 likely to be a superstar 1/3 to be a regular star and 1/3 to 1/2 likely to be a disappointment

A sure Superstar is worth more

I don't see Giannis wanting to go to the Nets,unless the Nets make additional roster moves before that in a way that's going to significantly improve the team. As it stands right now, the Nets have Cam Johnson, Cam Thomas,Nic Claxton,and De'Ron Sharpe.What do they got outside of those players? They don't have a good point guard(D'Angelo Russell does not count and that's only assuming the Nets would be willing to keep him in the 1st place). Their guard rotation overall outside of Cam Thomas isn't very good and Thomas is a poor defender, so look for a lot of defensive backcourt issues.The Wing depth is also not great outside of Cam Johnson. Is that situation really going be that much better for Giannis than staying with the Bucks?

Also value wise it's Giannis>Cooper Flagg, which complicate things even further since the Nets would need those assets to build a contending roster(this years Free Agent is looking quite bad and most of the Nets cap space would be used to bring in Giannis,unless they decided to give up Cam Johnson or Nic Claxton, which would the Nets lack of depth even worse). Really,unless the Nets significant moves before trading for Giannis ,I simply think Giannis would rescind his trade request if it turns out the Nets are the only team that would have the assets to realistically get him and are willing to make major roster changes(assuming OKC makes the finals,Rockets/Magic decide to run it back for another year,and Spurs don't view Giannis as a good fit next to Wemby).

I would probably agree.

I think that Nets can send MIL's own pick back this year too in the trade. Bucks are projected to pick #19 so that, and #1 for Giannis.

Seems fair for both sides to me.

[hugepatsfan]

The Bucks don't trade Giannis unless he asked out. The Nets don't trade Flagg for Giannis unless they have other moves lined up to make their currently terrible roster around him viable to compete at a high level. Players of Giannis' caliber have real pull and he likely isn't going to BRK unless they make those corresponding moves anyway.

In a world where Giannis wants out and a team with a plausible chance of being competitive got the #1 pick, I think a straight swap or close to it would be fair (or if the team didn't have cap space then with neutral salary filler).

Nets would still have roughly 50 million available to spend. Plus another 3 picks (though I see they have MIL pick this year as well, so maybe that's included into the deal). So maybe they use those other 2 picks on win-now players. Along with CamJo and Claxton with Giannis in the frontcourt. That's not a bad start.

Not sure who is gonna be a FA this season but I'm sure they can get whoever the best guy is-especially if he is a G.

That's fair. Like I said, if those corresponding moves are out there I think Nets would offer Flagg and Giannis would be happy to go there. I think Giannis (and BRK) are going to want those moves out there NOW though. I don't think Giannis leaves MIL for hopes of what BRK might do in a year or two and BRK won't trade Flagg and his career arc for MAYBE being able to add the right pieces around Giannis.

[hugepatsfan]

Spotrac has the Nets at $63.5M in salary for next year. Add in cap holds for their 4 first round picks (as currently slotted) and that's an additional $17.6M. Add in Cam Thomas cap hold of $12.1M. That all brings them up to $93.2M. That comes out to projected $61.4M of cap space. Giannis salary would be about $54.1M of that. If they did deal Flagg for him you can remove the $8.2M cap hold associated with their pick to offset. So net it all out and they'd

All this talk where BRK can take Giannis into cap space and still sign a ton of free agents is way off, fwiw. It's just really 1 MLE type of player. It's all have to be trades where they salary match, and the only salaries they'd have on their books for more than $3.4M would be Giannis himself, Claxton and CamJo, as well as possible S&T involving Cam Thomas. It's not as much flexibility to add to that core as is being discussed here because they can't really add to that group without using them as outgoing salary to match.

[Slim Charless]

Spotrac has the Nets at $63.5M in salary for next year. Add in cap holds for their 4 first round picks (as currently slotted) and that's an additional $17.6M. Add in Cam Thomas cap hold of $12.1M. That all brings them up to $93.2M. That comes out to projected $61.4M of cap space. Giannis salary would be about $54.1M of that. If they did deal Flagg for him you can remove the $8.2M cap hold associated with their pick to offset. So net it all out and they'd

All this talk where BRK can take Giannis into cap space and still sign a ton of free agents is way off, fwiw. It's just really 1 MLE type of player. It's all have to be trades where they salary match, and the only salaries they'd have on their books for more than $3.4M would be Giannis himself, Claxton and CamJo, as well as possible S&T involving Cam Thomas. It's not as much flexibility to add to that core as is being discussed here because they can't really add to that group without using them as outgoing salary to match.

I think you might be looking at the wrong year. Scroll down to the bottom it says 124M:

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/tax/_/year/2025

Unless I'm the one looking at it wrongly.......

[WinterSoldier]

I personally have a decreasing value scale for older players. Flagg wouldn't be worth a proven star 25 years old or younger based on the championship window. He to me is worth more than a 30 year plus star. The only exception would be a final piece to championship. If the Rockets or Thunder got Flagg or a 1st pick. Based on that I would argue that in the Nets situation I have Flagg as a higher value than Giannis.

[JustBuzzin]

giannis says no probably

He is rumored to want NYC....

The Knicks not Brooklyn