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SAC, DET, UTAH

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:52 am
by longfellow44
I think that the kings could retool this summer with something like this:

Kings trade Derozan
Kings receive Tobias Harris

Pistons trade Harris
Pistons Receive Derozan

Pistons move Harris out of the forward rotation so that their young players can log more minutes while adding a starting 2 guard that will raise the over all offensive fire power level. This gives the pistons a 3 guard rotation of Cade, Ivy and Derozan.

Kings Trade Lavine and the spurs 27 1st and the worse of the kings or spurs 31 1st
Kings receive Sexton and Collins

Utah trades Sexton and Collins
Utah Receives Lavine and 2 first round picks

Utah does this for the picks and Lavine is potentially a good piece next to Markanen while flagg develops.

The kings make these trades to put a coherent team on the floor that doesn't have any major weaknesses and can probably compete in the playoffs. This team has solid balance between offense and defense and is very deep. I personally also like the idea of adding a bigger forward and moving Keegan Murray to small forward.

Sexton/Carter
Monk/Ellis
Murray/Laravia
Collins/Harris
Sabonis/Valanciunas

Re: SAC, DET, UTAH

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:09 am
by Godaddycurse
Not sure why kings are trading 2 1sts for a bunch if expiring vets/for a team that is still likely play in bound

Re: SAC, DET, UTAH

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:24 am
by AingesBurner
Godaddycurse wrote:Not sure why kings are trading 2 1sts for a bunch if expiring vets/for a team that is still likely play in bound


Kind of answered your own question, cap space.

Re: SAC, DET, UTAH

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:03 am
by Godaddycurse
AingesBurner wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:Not sure why kings are trading 2 1sts for a bunch if expiring vets/for a team that is still likely play in bound


Kind of answered your own question, cap space.


Im sure FAs are lining up to play in Sacramento..

Re: SAC, DET, UTAH

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:18 am
by Astaluego
In my opinion, the Kings aren't solving any of their problems with this trade; they're just replicating what they already have and paying for it. The team would still be lacking a true PG (Sexton is a similar archetype to Monk), and I'm sorry, but I don't see the balance you're talking about anywhere. You literally have 4 terrible defenders starting, a small backcourt lacking playmaking, and a very soft, slow-footed frontcourt.
I think the Pistons are saying no. Harris expires a year early and offers better spacing/defense, plus they have a bigger need for a 4.

Re: SAC, DET, UTAH

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:23 am
by tmorgan
Pistons have no space, or spacing, for DDR. The only minutes we’d have for him would be at the vacated PF spot, and we need defense and outside shooting from there, ie Tobias Harris or someone better of that type. Just a bad fit.

Cade is a 1/2/3.
Ivey is a 1/2.
Holland is a 2/3.
Ausar is a 2/3/maybe 4.

And if they come back…
Beasley is a 2/3.
Schroder is a 1.

Get the idea?

Re: SAC, DET, UTAH

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:47 pm
by Billl
?? The pistons don't have young guys to play at the 4. We have lots of young guys to play at the 2/3. The premise is just all wrong.

Re: SAC, DET, UTAH

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:06 pm
by longfellow44
Billl wrote:?? The pistons don't have young guys to play at the 4. We have lots of young guys to play at the 2/3. The premise is just all wrong.

I guess I miss understood the pistons lineup I assumed that Holland and Thompson were capable of starting at the PF spot, and that the pistons would be looking to give them both more playing time.

Re: SAC, DET, UTAH

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:45 pm
by Billl
longfellow44 wrote:
Billl wrote:?? The pistons don't have young guys to play at the 4. We have lots of young guys to play at the 2/3. The premise is just all wrong.

I guess I miss understood the pistons lineup I assumed that Holland and Thompson were capable of starting at the PF spot, and that the pistons would be looking to give them both more playing time.


They are both wing players. They might pick up a few minutes at the 4 in some small ball lineups, but they get most of their time at the 2 or 3.

Re: SAC, DET, UTAH

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:18 pm
by Kalamazoo317
I don't think either will spend much time at all at the 2, but both will mostly be at the 3, imo, with spot minutes at the 4. Neither is a Tobias replacement and our backcourt is plenty crowded even without Ausar or Holland factored in.