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Simple CHI | POR trade
Simple trade idea here...
Ayton ($35.5M Expiring)
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Vucevic ($21.5M Expiring) + Carter ($6.8M Expiring) + '26 Portland's LP pick returned
All players are on expiring contracts, so no long-term salary involved.
Chicago gets a youngish C to fit in with their core moving forward.
Portland clears up the depth chart at C, allowing Clingan to be the clear starter. Vucevic is a great backup C to help mentor Clingan along. Carter is either a 15th man on the roster or is CUT to allow for other roster moves.
Ayton ($35.5M Expiring)
for
Vucevic ($21.5M Expiring) + Carter ($6.8M Expiring) + '26 Portland's LP pick returned
All players are on expiring contracts, so no long-term salary involved.
Chicago gets a youngish C to fit in with their core moving forward.
Portland clears up the depth chart at C, allowing Clingan to be the clear starter. Vucevic is a great backup C to help mentor Clingan along. Carter is either a 15th man on the roster or is CUT to allow for other roster moves.
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Ayton may be younger, but Vucevic is clearly better. The pick is going in the wrong direction, imo.
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I don’t get why Bulls would return the pick for this. As a Blazers fan, I’d do this without the pick just on contracts alone. Less salary means more flexibility. Bulls probably don’t also due to contracts.
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Yeah there's no incentive for the Bulls to do any of this, I might be mistaken but the extra bit of salary plus whatever contract Giddey gets would push us into the luxury tax.
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Portland owes value for the money saving. If you want the pick back it should be williams outgoing from the bulls
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Godaddycurse wrote:Portland owes value for the money saving. If you want the pick back it should be williams outgoing from the bulls
That’s too far the other direction. Portland would definitely need more compensation than just their pick back for that contract.
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This trade makes no sense. How about Williams, Huerter, and the Portland pick for Grant. Chicago saves a bit of money overall in exchange for the pick.
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DaVoiceMaster wrote:This trade makes no sense. How about Williams, Huerter, and the Portland pick for Grant. Chicago saves a bit of money overall in exchange for the pick.
what money are they saving exactly? Williams + Huerter is owed 90M combined over next 4 years, while Grant is owed 102M over 3 years. thats worse than the OP
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Thought Huerter was owed roughly $35M over 2-years and Williams was owed $72M over 4-years?
I dunno, I just did 2-second math and thought they made amaybe $5-$7M more than Grant. Maybe i should have done 10-second math instead.
I dunno, I just did 2-second math and thought they made amaybe $5-$7M more than Grant. Maybe i should have done 10-second math instead.
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DaVoiceMaster wrote:Thought Huerter was owed roughly $35M over 2-years and Williams was owed $72M over 4-years?
I dunno, I just did 2-second math and thought they made amaybe $5-$7M more than Grant. Maybe i should have done 10-second math instead.
huerter has 1 year left at ~18M
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Godaddycurse wrote:DaVoiceMaster wrote:Thought Huerter was owed roughly $35M over 2-years and Williams was owed $72M over 4-years?
I dunno, I just did 2-second math and thought they made amaybe $5-$7M more than Grant. Maybe i should have done 10-second math instead.
huerter has 1 year left at ~18M
Oh, then that screws my deal.
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I like the general idea, but maybe this?
Chi sends PWill, Vuc and Port's pick back to the Blazers, and the #12 to OKC
Chi gets Ayton, Dieng and the #15
OKC sends Dieng and #15 to Chi, and #24 to Port
OKC gets #12
Port sends Ayton to Chi
Port gets Vuc, PWill, their pick back and the #24?
Dieng can be taken out, but I figure OKC might want to free up $ and a roster spot
Chi sends PWill, Vuc and Port's pick back to the Blazers, and the #12 to OKC
Chi gets Ayton, Dieng and the #15
OKC sends Dieng and #15 to Chi, and #24 to Port
OKC gets #12
Port sends Ayton to Chi
Port gets Vuc, PWill, their pick back and the #24?
Dieng can be taken out, but I figure OKC might want to free up $ and a roster spot
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I'm for it.
Vucevic puts up better numbers than Ayton, the difference is Ayton doesn't fall in love with being 23 feet from the basket even if Vuc did shoot 40% last year, they also get no offensive rebounds with their #1 out there. Ayton is more mobile on defense, maybe he's not any better as a rim protector or whatever but Vuc isn't much in screen roll or help defense. The pick is of no concern to the Bulls and Carter hardly plays. The Bulls gain a roster spot by reducing their guard glut
I don't get it for PORT, the pick gives them flexibility on trades, Carter is expiring but Vucevic is going to put up better numbers than Clingon and there's going to be pressure to start him until they're out of contention.
Vucevic puts up better numbers than Ayton, the difference is Ayton doesn't fall in love with being 23 feet from the basket even if Vuc did shoot 40% last year, they also get no offensive rebounds with their #1 out there. Ayton is more mobile on defense, maybe he's not any better as a rim protector or whatever but Vuc isn't much in screen roll or help defense. The pick is of no concern to the Bulls and Carter hardly plays. The Bulls gain a roster spot by reducing their guard glut
I don't get it for PORT, the pick gives them flexibility on trades, Carter is expiring but Vucevic is going to put up better numbers than Clingon and there's going to be pressure to start him until they're out of contention.
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pipfan wrote:I like the general idea, but maybe this?
Chi sends PWill, Vuc and Port's pick back to the Blazers, and the #12 to OKC
Chi gets Ayton, Dieng and the #15
OKC sends Dieng and #15 to Chi, and #24 to Port
OKC gets #12
Port sends Ayton to Chi
Port gets Vuc, PWill, their pick back and the #24?
Dieng can be taken out, but I figure OKC might want to free up $ and a roster spot
i'd probably do that from Portland. Williams is a lot of $$ to take on, but Portland is also still in a spot to be taking on reclamation projects and seeing if something sticks. Would likely look to move Vuc afterwards, and could probably get another small asset there. And then there's assets to be able to potentially move Grant away going forward.
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Id give this a look for Portland. It is a lot to take on though. Maybe that #15 should go to the Blazers and the #24 should go to the Bulls. I'm not GM so what do I know.
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SkyHook wrote:Ayton may be younger, but Vucevic is clearly better. The pick is going in the wrong direction, imo.
Bingo.
Ayton is a head case and hurt alot.
No thanks.
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