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What would it take for the Dubs to acquire Deni from the Blazers?

Dubs could offer Kuminga in a sign and trade plus two future firsts (one unprotected), is that enough?

Definitely not enough. Blazers should not have plans to pay Kuminga, and they already gave up 2 firsts to get Deni (one of them being a late lotto). Deni has only increased his value since Portland got him. Portland shouldn’t trade him for anything but a clear overpay.

acquiring Deni was a great gamble that has turned out great for Portland. Deni is young, signed for yrs going forward at a famously cheap rate and Portland is ready to take steps forward not backward.

Kuminga can't hardly get on the court in games that matter when his teammates are healthy

I still maintain Portland should sell high on Deni because I can't see them being good enough to take advantage of his cheap contract and not sure you love him at $35M or whatever he costs on the new deal.

But this isn't that. OKC is the team. It's sorta the one thing they don't have and they can overpay for a guy who fills that last hole and is nice and cheap for them for a couple more season. Or if the Spurs think Wemby is ready for a big leap offensively, they make a lot of sense as a team to really give Portland something good.

Deni Avdija isn't getting traded. The Blazers love him and he's has shown to be good enough to be a major part of their core going forward. I think they would trade Sheadon Sharpe first before they trade him. Even if they were looking to trade him, this feels light from a value standpoint. Kuminga right now doesn't have a lot of value regardless if he needed a new contract or not and those 2 1st round picks,one of which is protected isn't enough to bridge the gap.

radtech wrote:What would it take for the Dubs to acquire Deni from the Blazers?

Dubs could offer Kuminga in a sign and trade plus two future firsts (one unprotected), is that enough?

No.

Not close.

POR gave up a solid vet, a lotto pick and an unprotected FRP and Deni has only gotten better.

Kuminga is an MLE type player. Deni has one of the best non rookie contracts in the league.

GSW would need to come up with a good lotto pick to be considered.

I'm not against trading Deni while value is ultra high but this isn't it, no. He's really good and is still young on a great contract. Perfect piece a contender should want.

radtech wrote:What would it take for the Dubs to acquire Deni from the Blazers?

Dubs could offer Kuminga in a sign and trade plus two future firsts (one unprotected), is that enough?

Nobody is getting Deni. Future all Star. Writing is on the wall. Next

The Sebastian Express wrote:I'm not against trading Deni while value is ultra high but this isn't it, no. He's really good and is still young on a great contract. Perfect piece a contender should want.

Do you want the Blazers to intentionally suck?

“Trade best player on team before prime cuz”

What’s the logic exactly for you?

For fun. Can Portland renegotiate two years of Deni’s deal? Like bring him up to 38-40 in 2026-2027, 35-40 in 2027-2028 and add 3 cheap years?

jayjaysee wrote:For fun. Can Portland renegotiate two years of Deni’s deal? Like bring him up to 38-40 in 2026-2027, 35-40 in 2027-2028 and add 3 cheap years?

They could in October of 2026, and add up to 3 new years, for 5 total under contract.

I guess it comes down to would Deni, and would he agree to 3 cheap years? Would Portland agree to raising 2 years of salary if they still have to pay market rate for 3 more? Essentially paying an extra $40m they don’t have to on order to still pay market rate for 3 new years?

redslastlaugh wrote:acquiring Deni was a great gamble that has turned out great for Portland. Deni is young, signed for yrs going forward at a famously cheap rate and Portland is ready to take steps forward not backward.

Kuminga can't hardly get on the court in games that matter when his teammates are healthy

What made acquiring Deni a gamble?

I'm a proponent of selling high on Deni but also understand Portland coveting a good (albeit not great) franchise building block.

Depends on what Portland is trying to do. They are stuck in NBA no-mans land. Either they trade him for a slew of picks or they try to improve the talent aorund him.

TGW wrote:Depends on what Portland is trying to do. They are stuck in NBA no-mans land. Either they trade him for a slew of picks or they try to improve the talent aorund him.

What makes Portland suck? They improved this season more than most people thought they would. Why can't they continue to improve and grow?

This is a stars league and there are no stars on POR.

That puts a ceiling on future success.

Deni is going nowhere.

I would also rather have just 2 FRP than 2 FRP and a signed Kuminga - albeit neither is a package that is nagging Deni.

I'm. Ot opposed to trading Deni, but would prefer to keep him. If I'm GM, someone is going to need to make me change my mind with a really nice offer.

The simple solution is a time machine to deal Kunminga for Avdija last summer (or perhaps 2 years ago).

Does Kuminga have any positive value at this point? Seems like dubs would have to attach value to bring back just about anyone in a sign and trade. If they want a good player there’s going to need to add lots of value.