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Portland/Brooklyn/Dallas end of trifecta

Posted: Thu May 8, 2025 9:38 pm
by Texas Chuck
Nets trade: 19/26/36
Nets get: 11/Powell/Prosper/Hardy

Blazers trade: Simons
Blazers get: Thompson/19/36

Mavs trade: Thompson/Powell/Prosper/Hardy/11
Mavs get: Simons/26

Nets consolidate to get up into lottery. Take on $13M this year and $6M next year.

Blazers get mid first and good 2nd out of Simons. Thompson addresses a real weakness in their poor shooting. They also gain more flexibility under the tax line for the year/nice TPE

Mavs get their Kyrie stopgap/6th man and take a flier late in the 1st.

Re: Portland/Brooklyn/Dallas end of trifecta

Posted: Thu May 8, 2025 9:40 pm
by JRoy
What is Thompsons contract?

Re: Portland/Brooklyn/Dallas end of trifecta

Posted: Thu May 8, 2025 9:43 pm
by Texas Chuck
JRoy wrote:What is Thompsons contract?


$16.7/$17.5 -- both rounded up slightly

Re: Portland/Brooklyn/Dallas end of trifecta

Posted: Thu May 8, 2025 9:44 pm
by JRoy
Texas Chuck wrote:
JRoy wrote:What is Thompsons contract?


$16.7/$17.5 -- both rounded up slightly


I would take this deal for POR provided we could move Grant (maybe by using the picks from this deal).

Re: Portland/Brooklyn/Dallas end of trifecta

Posted: Thu May 8, 2025 9:46 pm
by The Sebastian Express
I think I'd take it, yeah. If we couldn't get a better deal from like Orlando. I think if all else fails if Klay is still producing okay in a bench role that we could trade him maybe at the deadline next year for a second and expiring from a contender that needs shooting, maybe?

Like JRoy I would also want to see if we could have a Grant trade lined up elsewhere but I probably wouldn't be as like strong a requirement on that. But yeah I think that's a good trade.

Re: Portland/Brooklyn/Dallas end of trifecta

Posted: Thu May 8, 2025 9:53 pm
by Godaddycurse
dallas should keep 36

Re: Portland/Brooklyn/Dallas end of trifecta

Posted: Thu May 8, 2025 9:56 pm
by Myth
I definitely take this for Portland, no pick #36 required.

Re: Portland/Brooklyn/Dallas end of trifecta

Posted: Fri May 9, 2025 12:33 am
by BlazersBroncos
Love this for Portland. Klay seems like the type of fake win-now guy this team could add while still relying on internal development and swinging big with their FRP - something I am liking more than cashing in on youth to bring in a guy like Sabonis. You can sell it as a big acquisition to casuals and market Klay but you dont have to burn any real long term assets.

Re: Portland/Brooklyn/Dallas end of trifecta

Posted: Fri May 9, 2025 12:36 am
by DaVoiceMaster
I'm not familiar with the Dallas players. Are they worth the #11 pick?

Re: Portland/Brooklyn/Dallas end of trifecta

Posted: Fri May 9, 2025 12:41 am
by ecuhus1981
Texas Chuck wrote:Nets trade: 19/26/36
Nets get: 11/Powell/Prosper/Hardy

Blazers trade: Simons
Blazers get: Thompson/19/36

Mavs trade: Thompson/Powell/Prosper/Hardy/11
Mavs get: Simons/26

Nets consolidate to get up into lottery. Take on $13M this year and $6M next year.

Blazers get mid first and good 2nd out of Simons. Thompson addresses a real weakness in their poor shooting. They also gain more flexibility under the tax line for the year/nice TPE

Mavs get their Kyrie stopgap/6th man and take a flier late in the 1st.


I like this enough for Brooklyn. I'm picky about asset consolidation deals, but this passes the test for me. Nets GM Marks liked Prosper before the draft, he probably thinks OMP still has upside. Hardy is a bit redundant to Thomas, but cost controlled, young and I like his game.

Well constructed OP, TX.

Re: Portland/Brooklyn/Dallas end of trifecta

Posted: Fri May 9, 2025 1:49 pm
by TheNetsFan
ecuhus1981 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:Nets trade: 19/26/36
Nets get: 11/Powell/Prosper/Hardy

Blazers trade: Simons
Blazers get: Thompson/19/36

Mavs trade: Thompson/Powell/Prosper/Hardy/11
Mavs get: Simons/26

Nets consolidate to get up into lottery. Take on $13M this year and $6M next year.

Blazers get mid first and good 2nd out of Simons. Thompson addresses a real weakness in their poor shooting. They also gain more flexibility under the tax line for the year/nice TPE

Mavs get their Kyrie stopgap/6th man and take a flier late in the 1st.


I like this enough for Brooklyn. I'm picky about asset consolidation deals, but this passes the test for me. Nets GM Marks liked Prosper before the draft, he probably thinks OMP still has upside. Hardy is a bit redundant to Thomas, but cost controlled, young and I like his game.

Well constructed OP, TX.

It's close, but I'm torn. The 3 picks alone get gets you close to 11, though perhaps not all the way there. Taking on salary can bridge the gap, but part of that salary extending into '26 seems like a bit too far. Replacing #36 with a future, probably less valuable 2nd may line up better for the Nets.

Re: Portland/Brooklyn/Dallas end of trifecta

Posted: Fri May 9, 2025 2:09 pm
by SkyHook
I like the deal, with or without #36.

Re: Portland/Brooklyn/Dallas end of trifecta

Posted: Fri May 9, 2025 3:12 pm
by cucad8
TheNetsFan wrote:
ecuhus1981 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:Nets trade: 19/26/36
Nets get: 11/Powell/Prosper/Hardy

Blazers trade: Simons
Blazers get: Thompson/19/36

Mavs trade: Thompson/Powell/Prosper/Hardy/11
Mavs get: Simons/26

Nets consolidate to get up into lottery. Take on $13M this year and $6M next year.

Blazers get mid first and good 2nd out of Simons. Thompson addresses a real weakness in their poor shooting. They also gain more flexibility under the tax line for the year/nice TPE

Mavs get their Kyrie stopgap/6th man and take a flier late in the 1st.


I like this enough for Brooklyn. I'm picky about asset consolidation deals, but this passes the test for me. Nets GM Marks liked Prosper before the draft, he probably thinks OMP still has upside. Hardy is a bit redundant to Thomas, but cost controlled, young and I like his game.

Well constructed OP, TX.

It's close, but I'm torn. The 3 picks alone get gets you close to 11, though perhaps not all the way there. Taking on salary can bridge the gap, but part of that salary extending into '26 seems like a bit too far. Replacing #36 with a future, probably less valuable 2nd may line up better for the Nets.



Depending on what ese Portland can do to move salary(Grant), we have a TPE of about 6.8, where we could do the initial Simons-Klay swap to get us the larger TPE, while absorbing Hardy in to a current one. It keeps 36 in play to Portland for taking on the extra salary, and for Brooklyn, it removes any of the guaranteed '26 salary from their end.

Re: Portland/Brooklyn/Dallas end of trifecta

Posted: Fri May 9, 2025 3:20 pm
by BlazersBroncos
cucad8 wrote:
TheNetsFan wrote:
ecuhus1981 wrote:
I like this enough for Brooklyn. I'm picky about asset consolidation deals, but this passes the test for me. Nets GM Marks liked Prosper before the draft, he probably thinks OMP still has upside. Hardy is a bit redundant to Thomas, but cost controlled, young and I like his game.

Well constructed OP, TX.

It's close, but I'm torn. The 3 picks alone get gets you close to 11, though perhaps not all the way there. Taking on salary can bridge the gap, but part of that salary extending into '26 seems like a bit too far. Replacing #36 with a future, probably less valuable 2nd may line up better for the Nets.



Depending on what ese Portland can do to move salary(Grant), we have a TPE of about 6.8, where we could do the initial Simons-Klay swap to get us the larger TPE, while absorbing Hardy in to a current one. It keeps 36 in play to Portland for taking on the extra salary, and for Brooklyn, it removes any of the guaranteed '26 salary from their end.


I like this for PDX as well. Hardy is young and can shoot. He isnt a real PG but if you play him w/ Deni that gets alleviated a bit. I think simply making this deal and running it back (As Grant wont have value and Ayton likely is just kept as an expiring - any Ayton deal would require PDX to likely take a number of smaller contracts back and that would be difficult w/ our roster #) -

G - Scoot Henderson / Jaden Hardy / Tyrese Proctor (36)
G - Shadeon Sharpe / Matisse Thybulle / Tyrese Proctor (36)
F - Toumani Camara / Klay Thompson / Rayan Rupert
F - Deni Avdija / Jerami Grant / Noa Essengue (10)
C - DeAndre Ayton / Donovan Clingan / Duop Reath

IR RWIII

Its not flashy but it is more realistic than the hope of moving off 2 or even 3 of Simons / Ayton / Grant.

Re: Portland/Brooklyn/Dallas end of trifecta

Posted: Fri May 9, 2025 9:52 pm
by Karmaloop
JRoy wrote:I would take this deal for POR provided we could move Grant (maybe by using the picks from this deal).


Did Jerami Grant's season really manage to turn him costing a team multiple FRPs to acquire to now have to take picks to unload?

Re: Portland/Brooklyn/Dallas end of trifecta

Posted: Fri May 9, 2025 9:58 pm
by JRoy
Karmaloop wrote:
JRoy wrote:I would take this deal for POR provided we could move Grant (maybe by using the picks from this deal).


Did Jerami Grant's season really manage to turn him costing a team multiple FRPs to acquire to now have to take picks to unload?


He had a terrible year.

The numbers do not lie. A few injuries and changing roles make him an expensive backup.

Re: Portland/Brooklyn/Dallas end of trifecta

Posted: Fri May 9, 2025 10:04 pm
by Tim Lehrbach
I can definitely see Klay as a target for Portland, but I would rather let Simons walk. The Blazers have an opportunity to use cap space in summer 2026 to renegotiate and extend Deni and Camara, and I think they should do it.