The Paul George and #3 dillemma.

HadAnEffectHere · Post #1 » by **HadAnEffectHere** » Mon May 12, 2025 11:41 pm

The 76ers signed PG13 to be their third star and he turned out to be completely toast. This, along with Embiid's knee not recovering, caused the 76ers to have one of the worst seasons in NBA history.

The 76ers are now in an awkward spot. They have the third pick in a two player draft, an MVP caliber player with a huge contract with shot knees, two very promising young guards, and a max player who is finished but still has three years left on his deal. Some Jazz fans have already started discussing a framework of Lauri Markkanen for PG13 and the #3 pick, while some other teams are probably wondering if this might make it more likely that the 76ers trade Embiid. Which door do they take?

pipfan · Post #2 » by **pipfan** » Mon May 12, 2025 11:44 pm

I think they take Bailey and run it back

HadAnEffectHere · Post #3 » by **HadAnEffectHere** » Mon May 12, 2025 11:46 pm

pipfan wrote:I think they take Bailey and run it back

Ace is years away and didn't really help Rutgers win much. This would be a weird two timelines hedging that doesn't seem to work very well unless they traded Embiid.

But maybe take Ace, then have Embiid restore his value, then trade him?

GatherStepGuru · Post #4 » by **GatherStepGuru** » Mon May 12, 2025 11:47 pm

I don’t see a dilemma… Either take Bailey and let him learn for a year under PG… Or see what you can get for PG (maybe even Embiid), and retool younger. A good problem to have

HadAnEffectHere · Post #5 » by **HadAnEffectHere** » Mon May 12, 2025 11:48 pm

GatherStepGuru wrote:I don’t see a dilemma… Either take Bailey and let him learn for a year under PG… Or see what you can get for PG (maybe even Embiid), and retool younger. A good problem to have

I mean, the dilemma is which door they take, lol.

ReggiesKnicks · Post #6 » by **ReggiesKnicks** » Mon May 12, 2025 11:48 pm

Embiid is likely missing some of the season. No reason not to run it back, draft BPA at #3 and then see where you are next post-season.

Unfortunately you can't make an all-in move when your best player is Tyrese Maxey. If you had prime, MVP Joel Embiid, then maybe you trade #3, but realistically the 76ers aren't finishing Top 5 for the next 5 years of Maxey.

GatherStepGuru · Post #7 » by **GatherStepGuru** » Mon May 12, 2025 11:56 pm

HadAnEffectHere wrote:
GatherStepGuru wrote:I don’t see a dilemma… Either take Bailey and let him learn for a year under PG… Or see what you can get for PG (maybe even Embiid), and retool younger. A good problem to have

I mean, the dilemma is which door they take, lol.

I hear that. But what are their ACTUAL options though? Do teams actually want to take on the rest of PG’s deal? I feel like internally they’d love to pivot younger, especially after tonight.

If not, there’s not much of a dilemma, they have to run it back lol

Post #8 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Mon May 12, 2025 11:59 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:Embiid is likely missing some of the season. No reason not to run it back, draft BPA at #3 and then see where you are next post-season.

Unfortunately you can't make an all-in move when your best player is Tyrese Maxey. If you had prime, MVP Joel Embiid, then maybe you trade #3, but realistically the 76ers aren't finishing Top 5 for the next 5 years of Maxey.

Agree wholeheartedly here. They've gotta get something out of the PG signing. They can't just package a pick with him to get someone else that isn't going to make them a primary contender. And, with both Embiid and PG needing some rest and healing, why not take the best potential player and give it a year to see what you have? Maybe you find out you have pieces? Or you find out you just don't have any...

Post #9 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:00 am

I don't see the issue. Getting this pick is found money. So just draft the best player (might be Edgecombe) and Paul George shouldn't have anything to do with anything.

DirtyDez · Post #10 » by **DirtyDez** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:01 am

If you swap PG for KD are the Sixers even a playoff team given Embiid’s health issues?

SkyHook · Post #11 » by **SkyHook** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:03 am

Compounding the failure of the George signing by sacrificing a prime pick is guano crazy.

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #12 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:06 am

PG13/McCain/#3 for Giannis?

76thBearCub · Post #13 » by **76thBearCub** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:08 am

Yes the 3rd pick and a crappy contract don't have much at all to do with one another

Post #14 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue May 13, 2025 2:30 am

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:PG13/McCain/#3 for Giannis?

This isn't something the Bucks should entertain. That's a lowball offer without eating Paul George.

leo921 · Post #15 » by **leo921** » Tue May 13, 2025 2:44 am

George/3 for Vuc/Williams/Ayo/12th pick/Port 1st

Philly gets off George for mostly expiring depth (Vuc/Ayo 27m) and try to see if Williams does better with a change of scenery. Philly gets 12 and Port first as well. Embiid is going to miss 10-20 games a year so Vuc is a 20/10 guy when Embiid needs games off. Ayo is a high end 6th man to solid starter, 2 way player who can attack the basket, solid 3pt shooter and great defender. Williams is the 3 and D SF who can hit his open shots, play D, and would benefit off playing with Maxey/Embiid. Gives Philly options and depth.

For Bulls they take on 3 years of George for the 3rd pick which is going to be either Harper or Bailey. Spurs have 2nd pick and while Harper is better thought it wouldnt make sense for them when they already have Fox and Castle, who are very similar players to Harper.

Post #16 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue May 13, 2025 2:47 am

I mean if you take PG and offset it by Williams money that's probably pretty close to what he's worth, right? So now its Vuc/Ayo/12/Port 1st for 3 which feels really really light for Philly. I think Chicago has to add real value to that.

Case2012 · Post #17 » by **Case2012** » Tue May 13, 2025 5:23 am

Jerami Grant, Thybulle plus 11 for PG13 and 3. Grant is on a bad deal but way cheaper than PG13 while shaving off a year, they get Thybulle back who has massively improved his 3 and get 11. Portland takes on the worst contract in the league to move up to the spot they should be picking if they werent ran by imbeciles who padded their wins to keep their jobs. The hope here is that PG13 is so bad that we easily tank next year for Dybansta similar to PHI this year.

Myth · Post #18 » by **Myth** » Tue May 13, 2025 5:33 am

They need to focus on the future. The present seems grim. Keep #3, trade Embiid if you can get a haul for him (if not keep and recoup his value). Paul George they definitely can’t get value for right now, so they have to keep him and hope he recoups value too.

Kalamazoo317 · Post #19 » by **Kalamazoo317** » Tue May 13, 2025 3:04 pm

I can't see how PG or Emiid have positive trade value at this point. I think Philly will need to ride out their contracts while developing their youth for a bit.

Jojothewhale · Post #20 » by **Jojothewhale** » Tue May 13, 2025 3:17 pm

Case2012 wrote:Jerami Grant, Thybulle plus 11 for PG13 and 3. Grant is on a bad deal but way cheaper than PG13 while shaving off a year, they get Thybulle back who has massively improved his 3 and get 11. Portland takes on the worst contract in the league to move up to the spot they should be picking if they werent ran by imbeciles who padded their wins to keep their jobs. The hope here is that PG13 is so bad that we easily tank next year for Dybansta similar to PHI this year.

As correctly gets covered every time, it makes no sense for the Sixers to attach PG to 3.

The Thybulle era also did not go well at all off the court. I cannot see him coming back.