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Just thinking if DAL decides to go with a Flagg timeline and trade AD for a blue chip (not interested in a bunch of picks, since DAL doesn't have their own):

ATL - Okongwu, Risacher, Daniels, Niang, #13 for AD

HOU - Sengun, Green, #10 for AD, Martin, Hardy

SAS - #2, Barnes, Johnson for AD

DET - Ausar, Harris, Ivey, '27 DET 1st.

CHA - #4, Bridges, Nurkic, '27 DAL 1st.

Any other you could come up with.

Motive for DAL would be to refresh towards a Flagg timeline, for the other team to get AD and compete right now.

I don't think AD makes any of those teams contenders, might make Det and Hou WCF teams, but AD is not exactly a spring chicken and is risky. To me, most of these teams would don't make sense as bidders unless he was incredibly cheap, but lets play along.

Despite recent evidence, I don't know if many "blue chip" guys that would be available.

- No idea what new Atl is FO thinking, but I imagine they would prefer to keep Daniels. ZR and 13 I think they would do.
- I don't think I would trade Alpi for AD. Maybe if you swap him with other young pieces like Reed or Cam. 2029 Dallas pick, etc.
- I think SAS would prefer #2. Adding a 32 year old to a couple 21 year olds seems like bad timeline management.
- Detroit might do that deal
- Cha might do that deal

I'd put Denver, Orlando, New York, Indy, Miami, Chi, Toronto, LAC, Minny, Mem, GS, or Sac as the heavy AD bidders.

Why would Detroit completely change time lines?


This just seems bad for a lot of teams who shouldn't do what Dallas did in trading high commodity assets for AD.

AD was great when he was paired with Prime AD. Basically you want to pair him with SGA, Haliburton, Brunson or ANT.

aguiar95 wrote:Just thinking if DAL decides to go with a Flagg timeline and trade AD for a blue chip (not interested in a bunch of picks, since DAL doesn't have their own):

ATL - Okongwu, Risacher, Daniels, Niang, #13 for AD

HOU - Sengun, Green, #10 for AD, Martin, Hardy

SAS - #2, Barnes, Johnson for AD

DET - Ausar, Harris, Ivey, '27 DET 1st.

CHA - #4, Bridges, Nurkic, '27 DAL 1st.

Any other you could come up with.

Motive for DAL would be to refresh towards a Flagg timeline, for the other team to get AD and compete right now.

Clear best: SAS - #2, Barnes, Johnson for AD

These 4 are hard to separate but this is my order best to worst based on what I think Mavs would want:
ATL - Okongwu, Risacher, Daniels, Niang, #13 for AD
DET - Ausar, Harris, Ivey, '27 DET 1st.
HOU - Sengun, Green, #10 for AD, Martin, Hardy
CHA - #4, Bridges, Nurkic, '27 DAL 1st.

I honestly can't see any of these teams making any of these offers so I'm not going to rank them.

1. The Hawks could be a contender to get AD. They already a offensive star in Trae Young and they have a overall interesting team. I think the Hawks would rather keep Dyson Daniels and add additional draft capital.

2. Sengun and the 10th pick may be a little rich for AD. I would replace Sengun with Dillion Brooks and Reed Sheppherd, but add the 2027 and 2029 Suns picks(maybe a protection on the 2029 pick)

3. This is simply too much for AD. The 2nd pick in the draft could the land the Spurs Giannis if they're willing additional draft capital to that pick.

4. I think the Pistons would rather add additional draft capital than adding Asuar Thompson.

5. Okay value wise, but this makes no sense for the Hornets. That team is very far away from contending for anything of note. They need a big culture change first and foremost before they even think about making win now moves.

The Hawks thing is interesting because they have a win now star in young, the east is wide open, and they don’t control their picks for the next 2 years.

I agree with the OP that the Hawks would prefer to include the la 27 pick over Daniels.

From Dallas perspective - you have to really be a Reschier believer. I can see Flagg/Reachier being an interesting combo - and it’s a rare opportunity to pair the 1st overall picks in back to back drafts.

Texas Chuck wrote:I honestly can't see any of these teams making any of these offers so I'm not going to rank them.

Seconded.

CHO is realistic and can totally see them making it, ATL might, but I woildn't do it for DAL, none of the other teams is offering that.

All of these teams seem semi-realistic. But AD doesn’t have this value.

And I really don’t see Dallas doing this kind of deal. Think it’s a two time line game now..

DOn't see any team doing these as AD has proven to everyone (except Nico Harrison) that he's not a #1, he's a good, yet unreliable second fiddle.

That ATL package is not even remotely enticing for Dallas though.

Would Memphis be interested in pairing AD and JJJ to make a lethal twin tower scenario? I think Bane and recouping some picks would be salvageable for Dallas if there was a trade to be had, or a third team to get AD and they send the value/player Mem would want.

aguiar95 wrote:Just thinking if DAL decides to go with a Flagg timeline and trade AD for a blue chip (not interested in a bunch of picks, since DAL doesn't have their own):

ATL - Okongwu, Risacher, Daniels, Niang, #13 for AD

HOU - Sengun, Green, #10 for AD, Martin, Hardy

SAS - #2, Barnes, Johnson for AD

DET - Ausar, Harris, Ivey, '27 DET 1st.

CHA - #4, Bridges, Nurkic, '27 DAL 1st.

Any other you could come up with.

Motive for DAL would be to refresh towards a Flagg timeline, for the other team to get AD and compete right now.

All of these deals are good only for DAL.

Mavrelous wrote:CHO is realistic and can totally see them making it, ATL might, but I woildn't do it for DAL, none of the other teams is offering that.

Yea the Char deal is interesting if we can get our pick back, that opens up a lot. Though I don't want Bridges contract or Nurk in the locker room. Dallas was rolling before the Nurk/Naji fight that caused suspensions and derailed the season.

If Cho could include other pieces then sure Dal should consider it and see what guard their new assets could net.

daoneandonly wrote:

Mavrelous wrote:CHO is realistic and can totally see them making it, ATL might, but I woildn't do it for DAL, none of the other teams is offering that.

Yea the Char deal is interesting if we can get our pick back, that opens up a lot. Though I don't want Bridges contract or Nurk in the locker room. Dallas was rolling before the Nurk/Naji fight that caused suspensions and derailed the season.

If Cho could include other pieces then sure Dal should consider it and see what guard their new assets could net.

I'd ask CHO for #33, and send Nurk to the Wizards with #33 for Marcus Smart.

I also like your Bane idea, AD for Bane straight up, gives the Mavs a guard and much needed cap relief as they are over the 2nd Apron now.

daoneandonly wrote:DOn't see any team doing these as AD has proven to everyone (except Nico Harrison) that he's not a #1, he's a good, yet unreliable second fiddle.

That ATL package is not even remotely enticing for Dallas though.

Would Memphis be interested in pairing AD and JJJ to make a lethal twin tower scenario? I think Bane and recouping some picks would be salvageable for Dallas if there was a trade to be had, or a third team to get AD and they send the value/player Mem would want.

Pairing 3 young starters isn’t enticing at all? I think ppl are underestimating Risacher ceiling and Okongwu looked good as a starter and I think he breaks out next yr if he can stay healthy. I would not touch that for atl.

Ball4life32 wrote:

daoneandonly wrote:DOn't see any team doing these as AD has proven to everyone (except Nico Harrison) that he's not a #1, he's a good, yet unreliable second fiddle.

That ATL package is not even remotely enticing for Dallas though.

Would Memphis be interested in pairing AD and JJJ to make a lethal twin tower scenario? I think Bane and recouping some picks would be salvageable for Dallas if there was a trade to be had, or a third team to get AD and they send the value/player Mem would want.

Pairing 3 young starters isn’t enticing at all? I think ppl are underestimating Risacher ceiling and Okongwu looked good as a starter and I think he breaks out next yr if he can stay healthy. I would not touch that for atl.

OO has had ample time to prove who he is, and hasn't. He's not bad, but not needed with Lively/Gaff/Flagg/PJ

Not impressed at all with ZR, would rather have an intriguing SG or PG

AD + Future Lakers 1st for Luka?

Too soon?

daoneandonly wrote:

Ball4life32 wrote:

daoneandonly wrote:DOn't see any team doing these as AD has proven to everyone (except Nico Harrison) that he's not a #1, he's a good, yet unreliable second fiddle.

That ATL package is not even remotely enticing for Dallas though.

Would Memphis be interested in pairing AD and JJJ to make a lethal twin tower scenario? I think Bane and recouping some picks would be salvageable for Dallas if there was a trade to be had, or a third team to get AD and they send the value/player Mem would want.

Pairing 3 young starters isn’t enticing at all? I think ppl are underestimating Risacher ceiling and Okongwu looked good as a starter and I think he breaks out next yr if he can stay healthy. I would not touch that for atl.

OO has had ample time to prove who he is, and hasn't. He's not bad, but not needed with Lively/Gaff/Flagg/PJ

Not impressed at all with ZR, would rather have an intriguing SG or PG

Mainly because OO was stuck behind Capela but 13.4 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 2.3 apg in less than 28 mpg with +1.3 bpm I think he breaks out if he can stay healthy. Agree he’s not needed…Mavs look fine at C.

ZR last 36 games after he came back from injury
14.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 1.3 apg on 51/42 splits in only 25 mpg and was 19 for most of his rookie year. He looked good at the end of the year and dropped 30+ points on good efficiency multiple times.

JRoy wrote:

aguiar95 wrote:Just thinking if DAL decides to go with a Flagg timeline and trade AD for a blue chip (not interested in a bunch of picks, since DAL doesn't have their own):

ATL - Okongwu, Risacher, Daniels, Niang, #13 for AD

HOU - Sengun, Green, #10 for AD, Martin, Hardy

SAS - #2, Barnes, Johnson for AD

DET - Ausar, Harris, Ivey, '27 DET 1st.

CHA - #4, Bridges, Nurkic, '27 DAL 1st.

Any other you could come up with.

Motive for DAL would be to refresh towards a Flagg timeline, for the other team to get AD and compete right now.

All of these deals are good only for DAL.

Agreed. I think Max contracts are also maximum baggage considering the new CBA. AD is great (when healthy) but would you rather have him or 3 solid starters? Costs about the same without the risk of a single injury wiping out your season.