How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac

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How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#1 » by OGSactownballer » Wed May 14, 2025 7:58 pm

Let’s hear some possibilities to move Jaylen Brown to Sac.

Off limits: Keegan Murray, Keon Ellis

Anything else is available and please be realistic about values and keep in mind Brown’s contract makes things tough in future flexibility so outgoing assets have to be realistic.
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Re: How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#2 » by ReggiesKnicks » Wed May 14, 2025 8:00 pm

Brown for Monk, Harris, Future 1st(s), Filler Salary
Monk, Harris, Future 1st(s), DeRozan for Brown
Filler Salary for DeRozan
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Re: How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#3 » by brackdan70 » Wed May 14, 2025 8:04 pm

For Boston the Salary savings needs to be about 14 million in 2026/27 ( so they can reset the repeater tax) assuming Boston keeps this years and next years picks.
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Re: How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#4 » by Texas Chuck » Wed May 14, 2025 8:05 pm

If we are being realistic, and I agree we should, Ellis and likely Murray wouldn't be completely off-limits especially with Murray due a new deal and the cost of Brown.

I also think you have to keep Sabonis or what's the point of Brown? Then you need to find a team(s) to take on money so Boston can save a bunch of it.

Then its still hard because who on the King's roster do the Celtics want? No point in LaVine, should keep Brown and save money elsewhere. DeRozan? They certainly have the shooting to support him, but he doesn't fit what they'd like to do.

Not impossible, but I think you have a lot of needles to thread, starting with finding a team who wants LaVine and is willing to give useful role players to Boston for him with the Kings paying any costs to dump other salary elsewhere.

I don't want this for Dallas, but in theory they make sense as a LaVine team. They could definitely provide some choices to Boston of affordable depth pieces(2 of Gafford, Washington, Christie, Marshall, Martin for instance) and Klay and maybe Powell/Hardy being the only guys the Kings need to pay to dump depending on which specific players went to Boston.

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Re: How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#5 » by brackdan70 » Wed May 14, 2025 8:12 pm

Brown 28 and Bos 2026 first for Sabonis and 42.
Sabonis may have a bit more value than Brown and the additional pick for Salary savings. How far off is this?
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Re: How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#6 » by hugepatsfan » Wed May 14, 2025 8:15 pm

I think it takes some other team wanting Sabonis more than Brown and the package they offer for Sabonis being something BOS likes. And that's the case even if you put Ellis/Murray on the table because while I understand SAC fans liking their homegrown players, neither is anything special that would move the needle for anyone to trade an all star player. Lavine and Derozen aren't desirable as players really or as contracts. The value just isn't there unless it's a Sabonis 3 team deal.
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Re: How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#7 » by Texas Chuck » Wed May 14, 2025 8:17 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:I think it takes some other team wanting Sabonis more than Brown and the package they offer for Sabonis being something BOS likes. And that's the case even if you put Ellis/Murray on the table because while I understand SAC fans liking their homegrown players, neither is anything special that would move the needle for anyone to trade an all star player.


I have Sabonis having more value than Brown personally. And even if I'm wrong there, why are the Kings interested in swapping one for the other? This doesn't make them better. Especially not if you are asking them to add more rotation pieces they value.
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Re: How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#8 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed May 14, 2025 8:18 pm

brackdan70 wrote:Brown 28 and Bos 2026 first for Sabonis and 42.
Sabonis may have a bit more value than Brown and the additional pick for Salary savings. How far off is this?


I don’t think that Sacramento should be trading for Brown if they’re trading away Sabonis. At that point, why? You gotta be trading for Brown to put him with someone, and that should be Sabonis.
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Re: How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#9 » by ReggiesKnicks » Wed May 14, 2025 8:20 pm

brackdan70 wrote:Brown 28 and Bos 2026 first for Sabonis and 42.
Sabonis may have a bit more value than Brown and the additional pick for Salary savings. How far off is this?


So the Kings trade Sabonis, their nucleus, for a player less suited to be a nucleus on a longer and larger contract?

Just so we are clear, the difference in salary is 145 Million vs 236 Million :o

Please try to rationalize this if you think this is a serious possibility.
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Re: How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#10 » by babyjax13 » Wed May 14, 2025 8:23 pm

I'm going to be inserting my team into everything, sorry.

UTA trades: Lauri
in: 2026 SAC 1st, DeRozan, Hauser, Valanciunas

SAC trades: 2026 SAC 1st, Murray, DeRozan, Valanciunas
in: Brown

BOS trades: Brown, Hauser
in: Lauri, Murray

Not sure if some additional salaries and/or incentives from all teams are needed, but this feels like a framework to start from?
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Re: How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#11 » by ReggiesKnicks » Wed May 14, 2025 8:24 pm

babyjax13 wrote:I'm going to be inserting my team into everything, sorry.

UTA trades: Lauri
in: 2026 SAC 1st, DeRozan, Hauser, Valanciunas

SAC trades: 2026 SAC 1st, Murray, DeRozan, Valanciunas
in: Brown

BOS trades: Brown, Hauser
in: Lauri, Murray

Not sure if some additional salaries and/or incentives from all teams are needed, but this feels like a framework to start from?


Boston gets cut out of this.

LaVine/Ellis/Lauri/Murray/Sabonis with Monk/Harris/LaRavia/MLE is a fun team.
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Re: How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#12 » by hugepatsfan » Wed May 14, 2025 8:24 pm

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hugepatsfan wrote:I think it takes some other team wanting Sabonis more than Brown and the package they offer for Sabonis being something BOS likes. And that's the case even if you put Ellis/Murray on the table because while I understand SAC fans liking their homegrown players, neither is anything special that would move the needle for anyone to trade an all star player.


I have Sabonis having more value than Brown personally. And even if I'm wrong there, why are the Kings interested in swapping one for the other? This doesn't make them better. Especially not if you are asking them to add more rotation pieces they value.


I don't disagree that Sabonis has more value. My only hesitation is that the "point center" who can't shoot or defend really isn't the archetype really isn't attractive. That's the kind of guy you build around if he stumbles his way onto your roster and is too good to not keep extending, but not sure everyone wants to give value for it. Brown might be more overpaid and not as good individually in a vacuum, but there's literally not a team in the NBA where he doesn't fit the roster. The cap sheet... ok now some issues. But he fits every roster. There are a lot of teams that would look at Sabonis and just say not a good roster fit and not even get to the point of making a legit offer.

I'm not advocating for SAC to do the deal, to be clear. I'm just answering OP's question of how I see the value lining up. I think the logic from SAC would be that even if it's lateral, that more seamless roster fit will just make it easier to shift things around moving forward. But in the short term with their best players outside Sabonis being Lavine, DeRozen, Muuray, Ellis... Brown would add a lot of duplication so it'd seem like a mess.
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Re: How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#13 » by hugepatsfan » Wed May 14, 2025 8:28 pm

babyjax13 wrote:I'm going to be inserting my team into everything, sorry.

UTA trades: Lauri
in: 2026 SAC 1st, DeRozan, Hauser, Valanciunas

SAC trades: 2026 SAC 1st, Murray, DeRozan, Valanciunas
in: Brown

BOS trades: Brown, Hauser
in: Lauri, Murray

Not sure if some additional salaries and/or incentives from all teams are needed, but this feels like a framework to start from?


Like someone else said, BOS gets cut out. I think SAC would prefer Lauri to Brown. Your Jazz would probably prefer Murray to Hauser. So either SAC sends this package as you have it for Lauri instead of Brown or they replace Hauser in some other way (if they even need to since they're salary situation isn't as delicate as BOS) and keep Murray with Lauri.
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Re: How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#14 » by wemby » Wed May 14, 2025 8:31 pm

Celtics are trying to contend, not just put people on the seats, so I don't know what the Kings have that can realistically interest them. Sabonis might be a better stat padder, but it's much easier to fit Jaylen Brown into a winning team, so I think a swap is out of the question, unless a third team likes Sabonis and it comes with a bunch of extra assets. Honestly, I'd rather move a lot of other pieces before Jaylen Brown if I were the Celtics.
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Re: How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#15 » by babyjax13 » Wed May 14, 2025 8:32 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:I'm going to be inserting my team into everything, sorry.

UTA trades: Lauri
in: 2026 SAC 1st, DeRozan, Hauser, Valanciunas

SAC trades: 2026 SAC 1st, Murray, DeRozan, Valanciunas
in: Brown

BOS trades: Brown, Hauser
in: Lauri, Murray

Not sure if some additional salaries and/or incentives from all teams are needed, but this feels like a framework to start from?


Like someone else said, BOS gets cut out. I think SAC would prefer Lauri to Brown. Your Jazz would probably prefer Murray to Hauser. So either SAC sends this package as you have it for Lauri instead of Brown or they replace Hauser in some other way (if they even need to since they're salary situation isn't as delicate as BOS) and keep Murray with Lauri.

I really assumed Brown would have more value than Lauri, am I wrong on that? Or am I just wrong on how much more valuable?
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Re: How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#16 » by ReggiesKnicks » Wed May 14, 2025 8:35 pm

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hugepatsfan wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:I'm going to be inserting my team into everything, sorry.

UTA trades: Lauri
in: 2026 SAC 1st, DeRozan, Hauser, Valanciunas

SAC trades: 2026 SAC 1st, Murray, DeRozan, Valanciunas
in: Brown

BOS trades: Brown, Hauser
in: Lauri, Murray

Not sure if some additional salaries and/or incentives from all teams are needed, but this feels like a framework to start from?


Like someone else said, BOS gets cut out. I think SAC would prefer Lauri to Brown. Your Jazz would probably prefer Murray to Hauser. So either SAC sends this package as you have it for Lauri instead of Brown or they replace Hauser in some other way (if they even need to since they're salary situation isn't as delicate as BOS) and keep Murray with Lauri.

I really assumed Brown would have more value than Lauri, am I wrong on that? Or am I just wrong on how much more valuable?


Brown's value is packed into being the finishing piece on a title team or joining a better player who is the nucleus of a team, where Brown's lack of major flaws propels the team to contender status.

The problem, of course, is he isn't making 30 or 40 million, but is instead paid like a Top 15 player in the NBA when he is a Top 40 player. He has value, but it's hampered by his cost.
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Re: How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#17 » by hugepatsfan » Wed May 14, 2025 8:36 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:If we are being realistic, and I agree we should, Ellis and likely Murray wouldn't be completely off-limits especially with Murray due a new deal and the cost of Brown.

I also think you have to keep Sabonis or what's the point of Brown? Then you need to find a team(s) to take on money so Boston can save a bunch of it.

Then its still hard because who on the King's roster do the Celtics want? No point in LaVine, should keep Brown and save money elsewhere. DeRozan? They certainly have the shooting to support him, but he doesn't fit what they'd like to do.

Not impossible, but I think you have a lot of needles to thread, starting with finding a team who wants LaVine and is willing to give useful role players to Boston for him with the Kings paying any costs to dump other salary elsewhere.

I don't want this for Dallas, but in theory they make sense as a LaVine team. They could definitely provide some choices to Boston of affordable depth pieces(2 of Gafford, Washington, Christie, Marshall, Martin for instance) and Klay and maybe Powell/Hardy being the only guys the Kings need to pay to dump depending on which specific players went to Boston.

Something like that?


Wouldn't DAL try to land Brown for themselves out of that? I'm sure there's some way to make the math work.

Kyrie (when back and healthy) / Brown / Flagg / AD / Lively is damn good on paper if Flagg lives up to the hype. If you get Kyrie on an injury discount I think you can probably keep the finances in check of you go cheap-ish on the bench. It's good optics too since Brown got a lot of love for his defense on Luka in the finals so at least Nico/ownership can sell it as some sort of vision.
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Re: How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#18 » by ReggiesKnicks » Wed May 14, 2025 8:38 pm

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Texas Chuck wrote:If we are being realistic, and I agree we should, Ellis and likely Murray wouldn't be completely off-limits especially with Murray due a new deal and the cost of Brown.

I also think you have to keep Sabonis or what's the point of Brown? Then you need to find a team(s) to take on money so Boston can save a bunch of it.

Then its still hard because who on the King's roster do the Celtics want? No point in LaVine, should keep Brown and save money elsewhere. DeRozan? They certainly have the shooting to support him, but he doesn't fit what they'd like to do.

Not impossible, but I think you have a lot of needles to thread, starting with finding a team who wants LaVine and is willing to give useful role players to Boston for him with the Kings paying any costs to dump other salary elsewhere.

I don't want this for Dallas, but in theory they make sense as a LaVine team. They could definitely provide some choices to Boston of affordable depth pieces(2 of Gafford, Washington, Christie, Marshall, Martin for instance) and Klay and maybe Powell/Hardy being the only guys the Kings need to pay to dump depending on which specific players went to Boston.

Something like that?


Wouldn't DAL try to land Brown for themselves out of that? I'm sure there's some way to make the math work.

Kyrie (when back and healthy) / Brown / Flagg / AD / Lively is damn good on paper if Flagg lives up to the hype. If you get Kyrie on an injury discount I think you can probably keep the finances in check of you go cheap-ish on the bench. It's good optics too since Brown got a lot of love for his defense on Luka in the finals so at least Nico/ownership can sell it as some sort of vision.


I like pairing Brown/Kyrie again as well.
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Re: How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#19 » by hugepatsfan » Wed May 14, 2025 8:39 pm

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hugepatsfan wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:I'm going to be inserting my team into everything, sorry.

UTA trades: Lauri
in: 2026 SAC 1st, DeRozan, Hauser, Valanciunas

SAC trades: 2026 SAC 1st, Murray, DeRozan, Valanciunas
in: Brown

BOS trades: Brown, Hauser
in: Lauri, Murray

Not sure if some additional salaries and/or incentives from all teams are needed, but this feels like a framework to start from?


Like someone else said, BOS gets cut out. I think SAC would prefer Lauri to Brown. Your Jazz would probably prefer Murray to Hauser. So either SAC sends this package as you have it for Lauri instead of Brown or they replace Hauser in some other way (if they even need to since they're salary situation isn't as delicate as BOS) and keep Murray with Lauri.

I really assumed Brown would have more value than Lauri, am I wrong on that? Or am I just wrong on how much more valuable?


I wouldn't think so. Contract value is a big gap. Markannen slotting in at PF and not being terrible defensively is a massive offensive boost from what you expect out of that position. Brown as a wing is obviously a good offensive player but the bar is higher at that spot. Brown is less ahead of the bar there than Markannen is as a PF.

Every roster is different and I'm sure there's teams that would prefer Brown, but on overall assessment I think Lauri returns more. General observation but I think you're selling him low in a lot of threads.
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Re: How to get Jaylen Brown to Sac 

Post#20 » by babyjax13 » Wed May 14, 2025 8:40 pm

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Like someone else said, BOS gets cut out. I think SAC would prefer Lauri to Brown. Your Jazz would probably prefer Murray to Hauser. So either SAC sends this package as you have it for Lauri instead of Brown or they replace Hauser in some other way (if they even need to since they're salary situation isn't as delicate as BOS) and keep Murray with Lauri.

I really assumed Brown would have more value than Lauri, am I wrong on that? Or am I just wrong on how much more valuable?


Brown's value is packed into being the finishing piece on a title team or joining a better player who is the nucleus of a team, where Brown's lack of major flaws propels the team to contender status.

The problem, of course, is he isn't making 30 or 40 million, but is instead paid like a Top 15 player in the NBA when he is a Top 40 player. He has value, but it's hampered by his cost.

That makes sense, I guess I see him as a bit better than top 40 because his production seems like it can scale up rather well even if the impact metrics are a bit middling. Some guys have a massive impact in their roles, but can only ever be complimentary in a special way (e.g., Gobert) rather than having the ability to be a first option (albeit an imperfect one).
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