What should WARRIORS do this offseason?

[Astaluego]

Curry's injury cuts short their expectations this year, but they looked good while they were healthy, getting Butler + extending him put them in an extreme win-now situation for the next 2 years. I imagine they'll be aggressive buyers... they won't be able to beat/match the offers for the biggest fish, so what do you think they'll do or what would you do?

[SkyHook]

If they're not open to moving any of their big three, they're probably just going to be nibbling around the edges. Already the highest payroll in the league without Kuminga under contract. Resigning him is likely their best move. Does he get anywhere near what they offered last summer? Do they tell him to get an RFA offer and then decide whether to match?

[Texas Chuck]

I suspect Kuminga is gone. They can't justify even an MLE deal and the tax penalties for a guy their coach really doesn't want to play. Only way I see him back is if he plays out the QO, but I suspect GSW might not even issue that for fear he takes it.

Then I think they try and move Moody and get back a cheap big.

[Godaddycurse]

If they're not open to moving any of their big three, they're probably just going to be nibbling around the edges. Already the highest payroll in the league without Kuminga under contract. Resigning him is likely their best move. Does he get anywhere near what they offered last summer? Do they tell him to get an RFA offer and then decide whether to match?

what? thats not true at all. they're only at 170M for 9 players without Kuminga

[SkyHook]

If they're not open to moving any of their big three, they're probably just going to be nibbling around the edges. Already the highest payroll in the league without Kuminga under contract. Resigning him is likely their best move. Does he get anywhere near what they offered last summer? Do they tell him to get an RFA offer and then decide whether to match?

what? thats not true at all. they're only at 170M for 9 players without Kuminga

Sorry, you're right. The numbers I were looking at included the cap holds.

[Astaluego]

Moody for Goga..?

I'm not sure if it's legal, but could they attach assets to Kuminga ST and get Cam Johnson..?

[oldncreaky]

Moody for Goga..?

I'm not sure if it's legal, but could they attach assets to Kuminga ST and get Cam Johnson..?

If I'm ORL, my interest in Moody is low, but I'd be interested in Podz. Also, not sure about Goga to GSW -- wouldn't Goga essentially be a younger Looney

For BRK, thye are so far below the tax floor I don't think they move CamJ unless they take on a lot more salary, and they can afford to offer Kuminga a flat or declining deal that GSW can't or shouldn't match

[Astaluego]

Moody for Goga..?

I'm not sure if it's legal, but could they attach assets to Kuminga ST and get Cam Johnson..?

If I'm ORL, my interest in Moody is low, but I'd be interested in Podz. Also, not sure about Goga to GSW -- wouldn't Goga essentially be a younger Looney

For BRK, thye are so far below the tax floor I don't think they move CamJ unless they take on a lot more salary, and they can afford to offer Kuminga a flat or declining deal that GSW can't or shouldn't match

I think getting a young Looney isn't a bad plan? .. Hield/Davis+SRP for WCJ would be more attractive for both teams. WCJ seems like the archetype of center that would fit well with the Warriors...

Can players be added in a ST..Moody+Kuminga (ST)+ FRP for Cam J..? Is it legal?

[parsnips33]

Off-ball shooter(s)
Minutes eater (or better) big
One more guy who can create off the dribble

[gswhoops]

It's best for Kuminga and GS both to move on at this point. If someone wants to offer something in a S&T, great. If not, just let him go. He deserves a chance to go somewhere that will give him a real chance.

I can't see us moving Steph, Dray, or Jimmy outside of some one in a million event like Giannis saying he'll only re-sign if he gets traded to GS.

The two starting spots around those three definitely need to get upgraded though. Podz is good but like most young players inconsistent. Moody is a solid rotation player but a below average starter. Hield is fine to start in a pinch but also too streaky to depend on to be a full time starter. I think the ideal outcome is finding a way to get a stretch 5 who isn't a total sieve on D and a 3&Dish 2 guard. A 4 would be ok but I don't love the idea of committing to starting Draymond at the 5 for a full season plus playoffs.

A non-exhaustive list of guys I'm interested in kicking the tires on:

Brook Lopez
Steven Adams
Nikola Vucevic
Clint Capela
Larry Nance Jr.
Cam Johnson
De'Anthony Melton round 2
Luke Kennard

[oldncreaky]

Moody for Goga..?

I'm not sure if it's legal, but could they attach assets to Kuminga ST and get Cam Johnson..?

If I'm ORL, my interest in Moody is low, but I'd be interested in Podz. Also, not sure about Goga to GSW -- wouldn't Goga essentially be a younger Looney

For BRK, thye are so far below the tax floor I don't think they move CamJ unless they take on a lot more salary, and they can afford to offer Kuminga a flat or declining deal that GSW can't or shouldn't match

I think getting a young Looney isn't a bad plan? .. Hield/Davis+SRP for WCJ would be more attractive for both teams. WCJ seems like the archetype of center that would fit well with the Warriors...

Can players be added in a ST..Moody+Kuminga (ST)+ FRP for Cam J..? Is it legal?

I think it is legal for BRK to take back anything for CamJ as long as they stay below the tax line. However, I expect that they would want to leave some room/flexibility in 2026, so signing 3yr deals with Moody and/or Kuminga might not be their first choice.

BRK also has to worry about the salary floor (90% of the cap, about $141M). They have 11 guys on NBA contracts totaling $63.5M, plus 4 FRPs that will be paid about $16M. So BRK must spend an extra $62M, but currently have zero open roster spots to spend.

[xdrta+]

I suspect Kuminga is gone. They can't justify even an MLE deal and the tax penalties for a guy their coach really doesn't want to play. Only way I see him back is if he plays out the QO, but I suspect GSW might not even issue that for fear he takes it.
Then I think they try and move Moody and get back a cheap big.

What? Of course they're going to offer it, it's only $7.9M. And no chance he takes it. He's likely to get offers, maybe not as much as he wants but considerably more than that. And if they can't swing an S&T first, they'll likely match.

[gswhoops]

I suspect Kuminga is gone. They can't justify even an MLE deal and the tax penalties for a guy their coach really doesn't want to play. Only way I see him back is if he plays out the QO, but I suspect GSW might not even issue that for fear he takes it.
Then I think they try and move Moody and get back a cheap big.

What? Of course they're going to offer it, it's only $7.9M. And no chance he takes it. He's likely to get offers, maybe not as much as he wants but considerably more than that. And if they can't swing an S&T first, they'll likely match.

Why? Kuminga doesn't want to be here and Kerr doesn't want to play him.

If we let JK walk, we'll have $25M under the first apron, which means we get a ton of flexibility to improve the roster via signings or trades. Use the money on guys who actually want to be here and can actually help us win games.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Orlando would be an interesting spot for
Kuminga…. Plenty of backup 3/4 minutes available and on the rise.

Not sure what Warriors are looking for but we’ve got some interesting contracts/one year deals.

[gswhoops]

Orlando would be an interesting spot for
Kuminga…. Plenty of backup 3/4 minutes available and on the rise.

Not sure what Warriors are looking for but we’ve got some interesting contracts/one year deals.

Did you have anyone in particular in mind? I doubt we'd be interested in eating KCP or Cole Anthony without some incentive coming back our way, but I could see Isaac, WCJ, and Goga all being interesting to varying degrees.

[gswhoops]

Moody for Goga..?

I'm not sure if it's legal, but could they attach assets to Kuminga ST and get Cam Johnson..?

If I'm ORL, my interest in Moody is low, but I'd be interested in Podz. Also, not sure about Goga to GSW -- wouldn't Goga essentially be a younger Looney

For BRK, thye are so far below the tax floor I don't think they move CamJ unless they take on a lot more salary, and they can afford to offer Kuminga a flat or declining deal that GSW can't or shouldn't match

I think getting a young Looney isn't a bad plan?

In a vacuum, no, but I think we'd rather just keep Moody and re-sign Looney since we have his Bird rights than trade Moody for Goga.

Hield/Davis+SRP for WCJ would be more attractive for both teams. WCJ seems like the archetype of center that would fit well with the Warriors...

Would definitely be interested in WCJ at the right price, but I'm not sure this is it.

[parsnips33]

KCP could be pretty interesting honestly

[Scoot McGroot]

I suspect Kuminga is gone. They can't justify even an MLE deal and the tax penalties for a guy their coach really doesn't want to play. Only way I see him back is if he plays out the QO, but I suspect GSW might not even issue that for fear he takes it.
Then I think they try and move Moody and get back a cheap big.

What? Of course they're going to offer it, it's only $7.9M. And no chance he takes it. He's likely to get offers, maybe not as much as he wants but considerably more than that. And if they can't swing an S&T first, they'll likely match.

Just Brooklyn that can give him an offer (that he and his agent would take). He's surely not going to consider an MLE offer?

[giberish]

I suspect Kuminga is gone. They can't justify even an MLE deal and the tax penalties for a guy their coach really doesn't want to play. Only way I see him back is if he plays out the QO, but I suspect GSW might not even issue that for fear he takes it.
Then I think they try and move Moody and get back a cheap big.

What? Of course they're going to offer it, it's only $7.9M. And no chance he takes it. He's likely to get offers, maybe not as much as he wants but considerably more than that. And if they can't swing an S&T first, they'll likely match.

Why? Kuminga doesn't want to be here and Kerr doesn't want to play him.

If we let JK walk, we'll have $25M under the first apron, which means we get a ton of flexibility to improve the roster via signings or trades. Use the money on guys who actually want to be here and can actually help us win games.

If Kuminga can't get more than a cheap offer GS could decide that it's better to match and then look to trade him later. It's not great - especially as JK starts slow - but might happen. Obviously better to work out a S&T for some (even limited) value but that might not be so easy this offseason.

[oldncreaky]

KCP could be pretty interesting honestly

The version of KCP that played in Denver or LAL would definitely be interesting for GS

The version of KCP that played in ORL last season, with a significant fall-off in shooting and D but still costing 15% of the salary cap, would be a lot less interesting. Was KCP's bad season because of the situation in ORL, or a decline due to age? YMMV.

If you trade for him, you are gambling that KCP will bounce back in GS, and you're also using up $21M in salary on that bet. It's a reasonable gamble, but I'd question this move for GSW given their salary situation