Jaylen Brown to Houston

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Jaylen Brown to Houston 

Post#1 » by HadAnEffectHere » Sat May 17, 2025 12:34 pm

Assume that the Celtics have dumped other players to get under the aprons.

Celtics get: Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, #10
Rockets get: Jaylen Brown

Why for Boston: One year tank as Tatum recovers, get some young talent during the tank.
Why for Houston: Massively upgrade SG position and get a guy Ime likes.

Now the two questions with this trade are:

1. Is this the proper amount of value for Jaylen Brown?
2. What team would Brooks be rerouted to?
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Re: Jaylen Brown to Houston 

Post#2 » by hugepatsfan » Sat May 17, 2025 12:44 pm

I understand why HOU would want to hold onto some of their more desirable pieces, but there’s simply nothing here that does anything for Boston really. If this is the valuation HOU has of Brown, then he simply won’t be going there.
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Re: Jaylen Brown to Houston 

Post#3 » by Texas Chuck » Sat May 17, 2025 12:45 pm

I don't think Houston can afford Brown while keeping all the kids they need to pay, though at this price you do it and figure it out down the road.

Green just isn't a player Boston is going to value and you are asking them to accept him as the primary return for Brown. Doesn't feel like something Boston would consider. Maybe if you route Green elsewhere and have Houston add some value though I still don't love it for Houston.
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Re: Jaylen Brown to Houston 

Post#4 » by brackdan70 » Sat May 17, 2025 1:59 pm

I don’t think Brown gets traded. Combination of his value to theCs and his Salary is difficult to move. If he does get trade it will be a better offer.
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Re: Jaylen Brown to Houston 

Post#5 » by Cricket23 » Sat May 17, 2025 2:05 pm

Swap Brooks for Jabari, swap Green for something positive that a 3rd team would give for Green. Not saying Houston does it, but that's how it has to start for Boston.
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Re: Jaylen Brown to Houston 

Post#6 » by LarsV8 » Sat May 17, 2025 3:42 pm

Wouldn't take for free, I think he is one of the worst contracts in the league.
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Re: Jaylen Brown to Houston 

Post#7 » by Kiss of Death » Sat May 17, 2025 4:30 pm

$53.1 M
$57.0 M
$61.0 M
$64.9 M

Yeah, that's a no from Houston.
Good player, sure.
Worth that contract? No way.
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Re: Jaylen Brown to Houston 

Post#8 » by VaDe255 » Sat May 17, 2025 4:45 pm

Going to be a very interesting offseason.

I'm seeing it similiar, JB on this contract is crazy, I think they expected more growth when he got it.
I only see a desperate win now team wanting him on this contract, if you are a JB away from being the clear favorite to win it all (like the Celtics were).
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Re: Jaylen Brown to Houston 

Post#9 » by facothomas22 » Sat May 17, 2025 7:24 pm

This is might one of those cases where both teams would hate this trade. For the Rockets side, they are not going to be tier 1 contenders with Jaylen Brown on the team and their young core is going to be due for a payday. Bringing in Jaylen Brown at his salary would mean making very tough decisions. For the Celtics side, they're simply not are simply not getting enough value. Jalen Green value is nil at his current contract and the 10th pick in this year's draft/Dillon Brooks is not enough to bridge the gap.
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Re: Jaylen Brown to Houston 

Post#10 » by FlatearthZorro » Sat May 17, 2025 8:21 pm

HadAnEffectHere wrote:Assume that the Celtics have dumped other players to get under the aprons.

Celtics get: Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, #10
Rockets get: Jaylen Brown

Why for Boston: One year tank as Tatum recovers, get some young talent during the tank.
Why for Houston: Massively upgrade SG position and get a guy Ime likes.

Now the two questions with this trade are:

1. Is this the proper amount of value for Jaylen Brown?
2. What team would Brooks be rerouted to?


That would make sense for HOU if they are looking to compete next year.
Brown is a fantastic 2nd option, top notch defender and a good scorer when he's healthy.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: Jaylen Brown to Houston 

Post#11 » by FlatearthZorro » Sat May 17, 2025 8:22 pm

Kiss of Death wrote:$53.1 M
$57.0 M
$61.0 M
$64.9 M

Yeah, that's a no from Houston.
Good player, sure.
Worth that contract? No way.


When he was healthy last year, in our championship run he made all the big shots we needed(him and Jrue) and defended every team's best player. He is a Robin, but when he's fully healthy, he's a dang good Robin.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: Jaylen Brown to Houston 

Post#12 » by FlatearthZorro » Sat May 17, 2025 8:23 pm

VaDe255 wrote:Going to be a very interesting offseason.

I'm seeing it similiar, JB on this contract is crazy, I think they expected more growth when he got it.
I only see a desperate win now team wanting him on this contract, if you are a JB away from being the clear favorite to win it all (like the Celtics were).


Sorry for spamming the thread, but as a 2nd option, he made big shots and defended the other team's best player. You can't expect much more, he definitely needs to improve his passing and dribbling, but he's pretty good, was injured this year, which is the reason his production dropped.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: Jaylen Brown to Houston 

Post#13 » by VaDe255 » Sat May 17, 2025 8:46 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
VaDe255 wrote:Going to be a very interesting offseason.

I'm seeing it similiar, JB on this contract is crazy, I think they expected more growth when he got it.
I only see a desperate win now team wanting him on this contract, if you are a JB away from being the clear favorite to win it all (like the Celtics were).


Sorry for spamming the thread, but as a 2nd option, he made big shots and defended the other team's best player. You can't expect much more, he definitely needs to improve his passing and dribbling, but he's pretty good, was injured this year, which is the reason his production dropped.


Oh, I really don’t evaluate players like that.
There are advanced metrics like EPM and LEBRON that do a great job cutting through the media noise and rating actual impact in a more objective, scientific way. And yes, FOs use them too when assessing players.

Personally, I have JB as a fringe top 40 player, not someone you give a supermax to.
In a different CBA it might not be such a big issue, but under the current one, having significantly overpaid players really limits your flexibility
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Re: Jaylen Brown to Houston 

Post#14 » by JayMKE » Sat May 17, 2025 8:47 pm

Houston fans think they can get top tier players giving up nothing of value
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Re: Jaylen Brown to Houston 

Post#15 » by Texas Chuck » Sat May 17, 2025 8:49 pm

JayMKE wrote:Houston fans think they can get top tier players giving up nothing of value
Stop generalizing fan bases please

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Re: Jaylen Brown to Houston 

Post#16 » by FlatearthZorro » Sat May 17, 2025 9:23 pm

VaDe255 wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
VaDe255 wrote:Going to be a very interesting offseason.

I'm seeing it similiar, JB on this contract is crazy, I think they expected more growth when he got it.
I only see a desperate win now team wanting him on this contract, if you are a JB away from being the clear favorite to win it all (like the Celtics were).


Sorry for spamming the thread, but as a 2nd option, he made big shots and defended the other team's best player. You can't expect much more, he definitely needs to improve his passing and dribbling, but he's pretty good, was injured this year, which is the reason his production dropped.


Oh, I really don’t evaluate players like that.
There are advanced metrics like EPM and LEBRON that do a great job cutting through the media noise and rating actual impact in a more objective, scientific way. And yes, FOs use them too when assessing players.

Personally, I have JB as a fringe top 40 player, not someone you give a supermax to.
In a different CBA it might not be such a big issue, but under the current one, having significantly overpaid players really limits your flexibility


That's your opinion, a dude who made 2nd team all-nba and averaged over 25 in 2 seasons(sans last) is a top 40 player, made FMVP, has made big shots, isn't afraid of the big moment, again he's a 2nd option.... and can score 20+ and absolutely throttled Luka, Siakam, etc. Cool, bro, what qualifies as your top 20?
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.

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