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Note: all salaries ending. Values for 2025-26 season

Boston trades:

Kristaps Porzingis - $30,731,707
#28 pick

Portland trades:

Robert Williams III - $13,285,713
Matisse Thybulle - $11,550,000

Boston brings back a familiar center in Timelord and a very solid role player in Thybulle while saving $6 million in salary, another million or so in the picks salary and an as yet undetermined tax amount

Portland takes a flyer on Porzingis regaining his unicorn game and using the pick to take a prospect

Not worth the first. Maybe use the high 2nd?

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Pass from POR.

Honestly doesn’t save enough to be worth the 2nd even. BOS will need it for deals that clear more.

I wouldn't do that for Portland. #28 is not enough incentive to add $6M to the payroll.

I like KP but I LOVE Thybulle and want to see a full season of him with Toumani, Deni and Grant(if we can't offload him) as the forward rotation. The defense and shooting, playmaking there at the 3/4 is really exciting especially since Matisse has improved his shooting so much. If there was a way to keep Thybulle and not get the pick back I would do that.

I lost track of the exact amount Portland is below the tax, but assuming they don’t go or have a plan to immediately get back under, yeah, they should definitely be on board.

DaVoiceMaster wrote:I wouldn't do that for Portland. #28 is not enough incentive to add $6M to the payroll.

6M typically cost a few 2nds to dump only

Godaddycurse wrote:

DaVoiceMaster wrote:I wouldn't do that for Portland. #28 is not enough incentive to add $6M to the payroll.

6M typically cost a few 2nds to dump only

Still not interested.

Boston probably wants to dump one of these two into some team MLE/TPE. Maybe both players. And I think that’s pretty easy.

So think Boston does it.

Portland should do it, and just focus on clearing some of Ayton’s salary if they need to trim some salary? I think this deal leaves them the tax space to use most of MLE and sign their draft picks? That would be the full offseason? Chicago probably does something around Vuc+minor salary for Ayton..

jayjaysee wrote:Boston probably wants to dump one of these two into some team MLE/TPE. Maybe both players. And I think that’s pretty easy.

So think Boston does it.

Portland should do it, and just focus on clearing some of Ayton’s salary if they need to trim some salary? I think this deal leaves them the tax space to use most of MLE and sign their draft picks? That would be the full offseason? Chicago probably does something around Vuc+minor salary for Ayton..

Not taking on salary past this year because another team “probably does something”.

Not eating that garbage for that incentive. If that is too much for the other parties involved, no loss.

Village Idiot wrote:Note: all salaries ending. Values for 2025-26 season

Boston trades:

Kristaps Porzingis - $30,731,707
#28 pick

Portland trades:

Robert Williams III - $13,285,713
Matisse Thybulle - $11,550,000

Boston brings back a familiar center in Timelord and a very solid role player in Thybulle while saving $6 million in salary, another million or so in the picks salary and an as yet undetermined tax amount

Portland takes a flyer on Porzingis regaining his unicorn game and using the pick to take a prospect

Im game.
Although it would have to be a draft night deal so I can see who is still available...
by the same logic, Id be fine with #32 instead, but only if my guy is there

jayjaysee wrote:Boston probably wants to dump one of these two into some team MLE/TPE. Maybe both players. And I think that’s pretty easy.

So think Boston does it.

Portland should do it, and just focus on clearing some of Ayton’s salary if they need to trim some salary? I think this deal leaves them the tax space to use most of MLE and sign their draft picks? That would be the full offseason? Chicago probably does something around Vuc+minor salary for Ayton..

Not taking on salary past this year because another team “probably does something” for that incentive. If that is too much for the other parties involved, no loss.

Case2012 wrote:I like KP but I LOVE Thybulle and want to see a full season of him with Toumani, Deni and Grant(if we can't offload him) as the forward rotation. The defense and shooting, playmaking there at the 3/4 is really exciting especially since Matisse has improved his shooting so much. If there was a way to keep Thybulle and not get the pick back I would do that.

An alternative is a variation on this deal that I posted last week in some thread was basically

Boston trades:

KP
27

Boston receives:

Timelord

Portland trades:

Simons
Timelord

Portland receives:

KP
Issac
16

Orlando trades:

Issac 16 for Simons and 27

The deal would need to be done in two parts in two different salary years leveraging the fact that Issac's contract declines from 25 now to 15 million next season. The first deal would be Issac to Boston, Simons to Orlando and KP to Portland and then in the new salary year Issac to Portland for Timelord.

This saves the Celtics $17.5 million in salary alone.

Portland keeps Thybulle in this variation. I too would love to keep him.