JJJ to Sac

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JJJ to Sac 

Post#1 » by SNPA » Sun May 18, 2025 7:54 pm

How?

Step by step:

What’s the dollar amount for JJJ the Grizz won’t match?

How can Sac put together enough salary to make it work (no Sabonis/Murray/Ellis)?

How many draft picks does Sac have to add? Spurs 27/Minny31/Sac26 (top 4)???
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Re: JJJ to Sac 

Post#2 » by CraftylikeaFox » Sun May 18, 2025 8:16 pm

Can't imagine the Grizz don't pay him whatever. I think they trade Ja before JJJ. But if he did become available I don't see a world where the convo doesn't start at 3 first rounders.
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Re: JJJ to Sac 

Post#3 » by Godaddycurse » Sun May 18, 2025 8:35 pm

What do you mean? He is not a FA
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Re: JJJ to Sac 

Post#4 » by QMemphis » Sun May 18, 2025 8:58 pm

Not a player on the Kings or package can get them Jaren.
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Re: JJJ to Sac 

Post#5 » by SNPA » Sun May 18, 2025 9:03 pm

QMemphis wrote:Not a player on the Kings or package can get them Jaren.

There’s always a price.
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Re: JJJ to Sac 

Post#6 » by QMemphis » Sun May 18, 2025 9:17 pm

SNPA wrote:
QMemphis wrote:Not a player on the Kings or package can get them Jaren.

There’s always a price.


Absolutely, but the Kings don’t have the assets to pay it.
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Re: JJJ to Sac 

Post#7 » by jayjaysee » Sun May 18, 2025 9:33 pm

Memphis shouldn’t trade JJJ. since money was brought up.. If Sac trades LaVine+Jonas+Carter (and probably 4 firsts?) for JJJ? (Need a third and maybe a fourth team obviously. )

Sac could sign vet mins and sit on the 15 mil cap space for 6 months to renegotiate JJJ.. Can take a bench player by using room exem after that. And probably look to trade Demar+ for a point guard..

If it’s not about money and the OP didn’t mean it like that.. Sac can match without any of their bigger contracts. Jonas+Carter+ either Davis or Jones.. is enough salary since JJJ is so cheap next season. Just add picks.

The problem is.. Memphis still shouldn’t trade JJJ. At all. And then if they did, some team would offer a better singular piece than Sac has. So Sac needs to consolidate assets, with a team that wouldn’t or couldn’t just cut them out. And I don’t see a realistic team there?

KD+2027 better of Sac/SAS, 2028 Sac first, 2031 Minn to Memphis
Clarke+Demar+2026 Sac first to Phoenix
JJJ to Sac

But Memphis doesn’t do that really..
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Re: JJJ to Sac 

Post#8 » by SNPA » Sun May 18, 2025 9:35 pm

QMemphis wrote:
SNPA wrote:
QMemphis wrote:Not a player on the Kings or package can get them Jaren.

There’s always a price.


Absolutely, but the Kings don’t have the assets to pay it.

Let’s assume 5 firsts is to much and won’t be offered by any team (that’s Giannis territory)….Sac can use 4 firsts to make it happen. The salary would include DDR who could be used or flipped too. It’d probably include Monk as well.

DDR/Monk/4firsts for JJJ (side deal taking Pippen into an exception). That’s as good an offer as any team will make IMO.
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Re: JJJ to Sac 

Post#9 » by QMemphis » Sun May 18, 2025 9:50 pm

SNPA wrote:
QMemphis wrote:
SNPA wrote:There’s always a price.


Absolutely, but the Kings don’t have the assets to pay it.

Let’s assume 5 firsts is to much and won’t be offered by any team (that’s Giannis territory)….Sac can use 4 firsts to make it happen. The salary would include DDR who could be used or flipped too. It’d probably include Monk as well.

DDR/Monk/4firsts for JJJ (side deal taking Pippen into an exception). That’s as good an offer as any team will make IMO.



Your premise that picks are enough to suffice is wrong. Memphis is ahead of Sacramento in regards to competing and would not trade a core player for middling picks.
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Re: JJJ to Sac 

Post#10 » by SNPA » Sun May 18, 2025 10:05 pm

QMemphis wrote:
SNPA wrote:
QMemphis wrote:
Absolutely, but the Kings don’t have the assets to pay it.

Let’s assume 5 firsts is to much and won’t be offered by any team (that’s Giannis territory)….Sac can use 4 firsts to make it happen. The salary would include DDR who could be used or flipped too. It’d probably include Monk as well.

DDR/Monk/4firsts for JJJ (side deal taking Pippen into an exception). That’s as good an offer as any team will make IMO.



Your premise that picks are enough to suffice is wrong. Memphis is ahead of Sacramento in regards to competing and would not trade a core player for middling picks.

The premise is JJJ wants to be paid and at his number the Grizz would be locked into the Ja/Bane/JJJ core with no way to improve, so they have to make a decision on direction and it’s either Ja or JJJ or roll with a middle’ish core that isn’t championship.

Also, never underestimate the value of Sac picks. Vivek will find a way to screw it up.
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Re: JJJ to Sac 

Post#11 » by ferk » Sun May 18, 2025 10:41 pm

grizz dont want Monk or DDR so thats kind of an issue .
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Re: JJJ to Sac 

Post#12 » by QMemphis » Sun May 18, 2025 11:46 pm

SNPA wrote:
QMemphis wrote:
SNPA wrote:Let’s assume 5 firsts is to much and won’t be offered by any team (that’s Giannis territory)….Sac can use 4 firsts to make it happen. The salary would include DDR who could be used or flipped too. It’d probably include Monk as well.

DDR/Monk/4firsts for JJJ (side deal taking Pippen into an exception). That’s as good an offer as any team will make IMO.



Your premise that picks are enough to suffice is wrong. Memphis is ahead of Sacramento in regards to competing and would not trade a core player for middling picks.

The premise is JJJ wants to be paid and at his number the Grizz would be locked into the Ja/Bane/JJJ core with no way to improve, so they have to make a decision on direction and it’s either Ja or JJJ or roll with a middle’ish core that isn’t championship.

Also, never underestimate the value of Sac picks. Vivek will find a way to screw it up.



I would rather be locked into Ja and Jaren than to sell either for spare parts. Bane may be moved but even then it won’t be for parts that don’t help us win now.
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Re: JJJ to Sac 

Post#13 » by SNPA » Mon May 19, 2025 12:46 am

QMemphis wrote:
SNPA wrote:
QMemphis wrote:

Your premise that picks are enough to suffice is wrong. Memphis is ahead of Sacramento in regards to competing and would not trade a core player for middling picks.

The premise is JJJ wants to be paid and at his number the Grizz would be locked into the Ja/Bane/JJJ core with no way to improve, so they have to make a decision on direction and it’s either Ja or JJJ or roll with a middle’ish core that isn’t championship.

Also, never underestimate the value of Sac picks. Vivek will find a way to screw it up.



I would rather be locked into Ja and Jaren than to sell either for spare parts. Bane may be moved but even then it won’t be for parts that don’t help us win now.

Well…that’s the basic conundrum of teams in the middle. It’s very rare to be able to trade a core piece on a core salary and get better immediately. You have to break it down to build it back up.

If the Grizz sign JJJ to a 45-50 million a year deal deal they are stuck, it would likely take a couple seasons to sell off a core piece and turn that into better win now pieces and that path is fraught with peril. It can go wrong easily.
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Re: JJJ to Sac 

Post#14 » by the_process » Mon May 19, 2025 12:51 am

I think MEM will just lock in in the middle. Selling tickets and merch in that market is important, and being bad reduces sales.
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Re: JJJ to Sac 

Post#15 » by ferk » Mon May 19, 2025 2:08 am

SNPA wrote:
QMemphis wrote:
SNPA wrote:The premise is JJJ wants to be paid and at his number the Grizz would be locked into the Ja/Bane/JJJ core with no way to improve, so they have to make a decision on direction and it’s either Ja or JJJ or roll with a middle’ish core that isn’t championship.

Also, never underestimate the value of Sac picks. Vivek will find a way to screw it up.



I would rather be locked into Ja and Jaren than to sell either for spare parts. Bane may be moved but even then it won’t be for parts that don’t help us win now.

Well…that’s the basic conundrum of teams in the middle. It’s very rare to be able to trade a core piece on a core salary and get better immediately. You have to break it down to build it back up.

If the Grizz sign JJJ to a 45-50 million a year deal deal they are stuck, it would likely take a couple seasons to sell off a core piece and turn that into better win now pieces and that path is fraught with peril. It can go wrong easily.


the grizz could just sign Thybulle for MLe and keep JJJ , this trade is silly and makes zero sense without a 3rd team at the least even then its a stretch.
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Re: JJJ to Sac 

Post#16 » by Godaddycurse » Mon May 19, 2025 2:15 am

after the fox trade i dont think blowing your load on JJJ will make sacramento a contender either. you should heed your own advice and break it down to build it back up imo
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Re: JJJ to Sac 

Post#17 » by SNPA » Mon May 19, 2025 2:32 am

the_process wrote:I think MEM will just lock in in the middle. Selling tickets and merch in that market is important, and being bad reduces sales.

This seems most likely based on what I’m hearing from Grizz fans over the last few months.
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Re: JJJ to Sac 

Post#18 » by SNPA » Mon May 19, 2025 2:33 am

Godaddycurse wrote:after the fox trade i dont think blowing your load on JJJ will make sacramento a contender either. you should heed your own advice and break it down to build it back up imo

Haha.

Vivek.

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